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hey remember when america tried to kill huawei's smartphone business by banning tech transfers? well guess what they iust released a 7nm processor high end phone completely made in china and it sold millions https://twitter.com/kanthan2030/status/1698669165182378272?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg https://twitter.com/carlzha/status/1697187314362163675?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg https://twitter.com/thecyrusjanssen/status/1698681384796319838?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg lol Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 19:09 on Sep 4, 2023 |
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Sep 4, 2023 19:03
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lol yeah they released the phone on the same day that the secretary of commerce landed in China. we talked about it a couple days ago in the thread.
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Sep 4, 2023 19:20
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Al-Saqr posted:hey remember when america tried to kill huawei's smartphone business by banning tech transfers? my favorite part of this is that when it happened you had a bunch of Very Smart People breathlessly posting that the entire Chinese tech industry had just collapsed and that it was one of the most mind-blowing things they had ever seen some Law of Attraction poo poo, desperately trying to will their desired outcome into existence by just claiming it had already happened
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Sep 4, 2023 19:43
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https://consumer.huawei.com/us/
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Sep 4, 2023 19:46
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Sep 4, 2023 20:28
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Al-Saqr posted:lol
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Sep 4, 2023 20:35
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i'm never buying a non-chinese phone again
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Sep 4, 2023 20:55
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what was the relationship of the shooter to the moonies
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Sep 4, 2023 20:57
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Shear Modulus posted:what was the relationship of the shooter to the moonies his mom was a member and they sucked up all the family's money
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Sep 4, 2023 20:58
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Mister Bates posted:my favorite part of this is that when it happened you had a bunch of Very Smart People breathlessly posting that the entire Chinese tech industry had just collapsed and that it was one of the most mind-blowing things they had ever seen Also, very serious people also claimed that the Chinese were a "decade behind at least" and it turned out they were maybe 2-3 years behind and if anything the gap seems to be closing. Also, if the Chinese can fabricate a chip that high-end they can also fabricate chips for its own MIC and export markets. It also shows how the whole goofy "China invading Taiwan for its fabs" theory is.
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Sep 4, 2023 21:12
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can china put a third, fourth, or fifth camera on its phones? can it switch from a proprietary charging port to usbc? can it deliver moderate adjustments to its phones user interface every single year???
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Sep 4, 2023 21:23
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Centrist Committee posted:can china put a third, fourth, or fifth camera on its phones? can it switch from a proprietary charging port to usbc? can it deliver moderate adjustments to its phones user interface every single year??? The Chinese were actually the pioneers of multicamera modules followed by the Koreans, distant third wadnaople and google phones.
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Sep 4, 2023 21:27
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Centrist Committee posted:can china put a third, fourth, or fifth camera on its phones? can it switch from a proprietary charging port to usbc? can it deliver moderate adjustments to its phones user interface every single year??? please, comrade Xi, my people desire devices with modern performance and user replaceable batteries
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Sep 4, 2023 21:28
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A universal phone chassis with easily replaceable major parts would be the true communist solution so you aren't buying a new phone every couple of years
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Sep 4, 2023 22:30
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Slavvy posted:A universal phone chassis with easily replaceable major parts would be the true communist solution so you aren't buying a new phone every couple of years apple but for communism instead of profit would be dope
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Sep 4, 2023 22:44
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Ardennes posted:It also shows how the whole goofy "China invading Taiwan for its fabs" theory is. Just to play the devils advocate for a moment, it occurs to me that China invading Taiwan for the fabs would be about denying them to the USA, who would likely explode them anyway. They hardly need to though.
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Sep 4, 2023 22:55
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User replaceable battery and not gluing down everything down would early stage Communism. ---- I am not a tech nerd but it just occurred to me China has delivered an actual product with a 7nm chip made physically in PR China before intel released a 7nm chip physically made in the United States. Their Whatever Lake chip is supposed to be released "2nd half of 2023."
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Sep 4, 2023 22:59
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Yes but it's full of Chinese government spyware!!! Do you want someone being able to track you and all your data???? Sent from my Google Pixel phone
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Sep 4, 2023 23:19
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Al-Saqr posted:hey remember when america tried to kill huawei's smartphone business by banning tech transfers? doesn't 想办法 mean "find a way" Centrist Committee posted:apple but for communism instead of profit would be dope that wouldn't be anything like apple though. nothing in the iPhone (or any of their products really) is easily replaceable and never was, and they're constantly slightly changing their form factor so not even cases are always transferable. it might be like idk early Nexus models or that google build-a-phone that never came out
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Sep 5, 2023 00:25
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Weka posted:Just to play the devils advocate for a moment, it occurs to me that China invading Taiwan for the fabs would be about denying them to the USA, who would likely explode them anyway. It would make sense to do things the old fashion way, put them out of business.
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Sep 5, 2023 00:26
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indigi posted:doesn't 想办法 mean "find a way" yeah. think of a method, more literally, but without any particular intellectual connotations; two dudes moving a couch have to xiang banfa how to get it through the door. i am also baffled by this person's choice to include it like this
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Sep 5, 2023 00:36
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indigi posted:doesn't 想办法 mean "find a way" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMjQ3hA9mEA
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Sep 5, 2023 00:54
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Reminds me of when westerners are like "the ancient Japanese concept of ganbaru," like it's some complex and obscure concept that can't be fully translated
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Sep 5, 2023 00:58
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oh no I have to convey cultural context and that makes it harder for me to slip foreign vocabulary nonchalantly into conversations to make me seem more worldlyYtlaya posted:Reminds me of when Easterners are like "the ancient American concept of vibes," like it's some complex and obscure concept that can't be fully translated or like treating 差不多chàbuduō as some inherently Chinese cultural philosophy or moral failure when "good enough for government work" exists
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Sep 5, 2023 01:05
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Mister Bates posted:my favorite part of this is that when it happened you had a bunch of Very Smart People breathlessly posting that the entire Chinese tech industry had just collapsed and that it was one of the most mind-blowing things they had ever seen lol it owned https://twitter.com/gonglei89/status/1695956087579759088?s=20
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Sep 5, 2023 01:09
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Ardennes posted:Also, very serious people also claimed that the Chinese were a "decade behind at least" and it turned out they were maybe 2-3 years behind and if anything the gap seems to be closing. Also, if the Chinese can fabricate a chip that high-end they can also fabricate chips for its own MIC and export markets. sound of south korea becoming a developing country again and nobody notices
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Sep 5, 2023 01:13
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Sep 5, 2023 01:56
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China stays winning
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Sep 5, 2023 02:30
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https://youtu.be/4_vgute5Y5c?feature=shared
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Sep 5, 2023 02:34
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banger
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Sep 5, 2023 02:48
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Sep 5, 2023 02:57
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This is how bullies work: you pick on the weak guys, not your biggeat threats. This is why China makes bigger and bolder moves on countries like Canada and New Zealand and their citizens.
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Sep 5, 2023 03:08
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Holy poo poo china
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Sep 5, 2023 03:37
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tristeham posted:This is how bullies work: you pick on the weak guys, not your biggeat threats. Do you have a pilots license?
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Sep 5, 2023 03:45
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Ardennes posted:Also, very serious people also claimed that the Chinese were a "decade behind at least" and it turned out they were maybe 2-3 years behind and if anything the gap seems to be closing. Also, if the Chinese can fabricate a chip that high-end they can also fabricate chips for its own MIC and export markets. To the USA the Taiwan fabs are mystical hyper advanced technology forges from Mars. To the Chinese they're just more factories.
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Sep 5, 2023 04:15
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DancingShade posted:To the USA the Taiwan fabs are mystical hyper advanced technology forges from Mars. To the Chinese they're just more factories. And China clearly has the ability to push a vastly larger economy of scale if they so choose to. TSMC and the rest of the larger Taiwanese manufacturers are eventually going to have to make a choice.
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Sep 5, 2023 04:32
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Ardennes posted:And China clearly has the ability to push a vastly larger economy of scale if they so choose to. TSMC and the rest of the larger Taiwanese manufacturers are eventually going to have to make a choice. They don't need to choose anything really. Just do business as usual. The only source of agitation is the increasingly drunk USA staggering from one place to another trying to relive the good old days, annoying everyone with their air guitar. Eventually the USA will fall asleep clutching a bottle of hooch in a back alley crib.
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Sep 5, 2023 04:55
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Ardennes posted:And China clearly has the ability to push a vastly larger economy of scale if they so choose to. TSMC and the rest of the larger Taiwanese manufacturers are eventually going to have to make a choice. are they allowed to make a choice or is the choice made for them
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Sep 5, 2023 05:06
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I'm wondering if China is going to advance an alternate desktop computing platform, such as ARM or RISC or even their own Or if they're going to manufacture x86, even if they don't have licensing from Intel/AMD Or if Intel/AMD will cave and give them licensing anyway
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Sep 5, 2023 05:09
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They have the Zhaoxin license, no? They're not amazing chips, but they're fully-compatible for transitional purposes. Getting off x64 should be a when-not-if, though. Not because it could be yanked away in a context where that would somehow be respected, but because a) it bad b) it bad c) hard wean from US software.
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