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Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh

CharlestheHammer posted:

BG2 sold 2 million units over 25 years so eh I don’t think the brand did as much lifting as people think
I don't think you had to have played BG2 to have the Baldur's Gate brand do a lot of heavy lifting. Case in point, how many people played Dark Souls 3 as their first Dark Souls game after having heard all the hype about the Souls series but never having played them? The answer is a shitload considering it has outsold the first two games by a huge margin.

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Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

John Murdoch posted:

All games should be judged against MGS2's dynamic ice cube melting.
Was that actually dynamic or was it just a timed canned animation? Like could you do anything to speed it up or slow it down?

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Volte posted:

I don't think you had to have played BG2 to have the Baldur's Gate brand do a lot of heavy lifting. Case in point, how many people played Dark Souls 3 as their first Dark Souls game after having heard all the hype about the Souls series but never having played them? The answer is a shitload considering it has outsold the first two games by a huge margin.

Dark souls was a series that has a pretty consistent rise in sales over a five year span.

The amount of non online people who probably ever even heard BG before 3 is probably pretty small

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


BG3’s success has been a combination of many factors. Well-recognized franchise, highly anticipated game from a beloved developer, resurgence in D&D’s popularity with Critical Role, absence of big budget CRPGs in the space for almost a decade, long early access period to iterate and build hype. And then the game was good.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Croccers posted:

Was that actually dynamic or was it just a timed canned animation? Like could you do anything to speed it up or slow it down?

It was dynamic. The speed that the ice cubes melted was in relation to how far they were from each other. This was the only thing in MGS2 that did this. Just because.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


The bear sex reveal was a big word of mouth spreader, but that didn't come off as people being horny. It was more "lmao you can actually gently caress a bear in BG3 that's wild".

The actual success was the fact that people have been incredibly hungry for a good RPG-rear end RPG, and Baldur's Gate 3 is the most RPG game I have ever played.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Rigorously
Plowing
Grizzlies

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Yeah, the bear sex probably moved some sales, but at the end of the day it was mostly an in-demand product made by a proven developer with a popular brand and a long period of EA showing people exactly what they were getting.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Leal posted:

This is an absolute steal, for real. Yes even if you just play single player.

Yeah, $3 for Titanfall 2 is an incredible bargain. I only played single player (not that I'd have played it anyway but I think multiplayer doesn't exist anymore?) and I got through the game in like 5-6 hours but I had a blast the whole time and it did some super cool stuff. Especially loved that one level that temporarily gives you the ability to switch between time periods to move past obstacles/get clear of enemies etc which is a mechanic I love. Only games I can recall that did something similar were Dishonored 2 and to a slightly different degree Soul Reaver: Legacy of Kain.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Squiggle posted:

Lemme have a rule and a saw and a board and I'll cut it

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brp5iwZoCoc

I absolutely love that "mission", it's such feelgood vibes.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

Jerusalem posted:

Yeah, $3 for Titanfall 2 is an incredible bargain. I only played single player (not that I'd have played it anyway but I think multiplayer doesn't exist anymore?) and I got through the game in like 5-6 hours but I had a blast the whole time and it did some super cool stuff. Especially loved that one level that temporarily gives you the ability to switch between time periods to move past obstacles/get clear of enemies etc which is a mechanic I love. Only games I can recall that did something similar were Dishonored 2 and to a slightly different degree Soul Reaver: Legacy of Kain.

One of the best games I've ever bought on a whim. Got it for I think $5 when it first came to Steam with absolutely no expectations and had a blast with the campaign.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


Jerusalem posted:

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brp5iwZoCoc

I absolutely love that "mission", it's such feelgood vibes.

I am hooting and howling at this how have I not seen this before

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Jerusalem posted:

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brp5iwZoCoc

I absolutely love that "mission", it's such feelgood vibes.

That Darn Cat!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Charles just patiently waiting as John is mauled never fails to crack me up.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

its unclear to me how many people making GBS threads on starfield have actually played it at all vs just reading some negative reviews and deciding that makes them an expert on the subject

that whole exchange of MarcusSA being repeatedly interrogated for what he personally experienced was cringe as gently caress. EXAMPLES?? excuse me your honor, i'm not done cross-examining

i do have to laugh at the day one patch being so large though. here i go now. lol

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

The 7th Guest posted:

its unclear to me how many people making GBS threads on starfield have actually played it at all vs just reading some negative reviews and deciding that makes them an expert on the subject

that whole exchange of MarcusSA being repeatedly interrogated for what he personally experienced was cringe as gently caress. EXAMPLES?? excuse me your honor, i'm not done cross-examining

Did you miss that I was also describing what I personally experienced? I think we just had a misunderstanding on what each other was talking about.

And man, I could not have gone further out of my way to point out that I wasn’t making GBS threads on the game but was just describing how it was different from Skyrim and somehow people STILL interpreted it that way.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Let's leave that little episode in the past.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
Clash: Artifacts of Chaos is going to place in my GOTY list and it might make the top three. it's the culmination of everything the Zeno Clash series has been working toward both in themes and gameplay, it does the old "gruff PC and vulnerable escort" dynamic better than any recent AAA attempts, its aesthetics and music are top-notch. if it wasn't for that completely dogwater title then it might have stood out even in a year as packed as this one

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Can't believe they didn't keep the name. I had no idea they were related games.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Oxxidation posted:

Clash: Artifacts of Chaos is going to place in my GOTY list and it might make the top three. it's the culmination of everything the Zeno Clash series has been working toward both in themes and gameplay, it does the old "gruff PC and vulnerable escort" dynamic better than any recent AAA attempts, its aesthetics and music are top-notch. if it wasn't for that completely dogwater title then it might have stood out even in a year as packed as this one
it's in my gamefly queue, the death mechanic seemed interesting to me

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

The 7th Guest posted:

it's in my gamefly queue, the death mechanic seemed interesting to me

as a death mechanic it's a pretty standard souls bloodstain runback, the neat bit is how you can switch between day and night mode freely at campsites and the latter has unique collectables and hidden boss fights, as well as opportunities to open more shortcuts for daytime traveling. it gives a little more longevity to the relatively small environments without making them feel too repetitive

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.
Made Void Stranger thread. This game has come out of nowhere and is probably gonna beat out Baldur's Gate and Armored Core for my game of the year at this point. It's really good poo poo.

edit: Nevermind someone beat me to it! See here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4041253

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe

Jerusalem posted:

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brp5iwZoCoc

I absolutely love that "mission", it's such feelgood vibes.

holy poo poo :lmao:

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Jerusalem posted:

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brp5iwZoCoc

I absolutely love that "mission", it's such feelgood vibes.

i'm loving hyperventilating at this

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Literally the sum of what I know about RDR is this video and another one where IIRC a glitch caused a bunch of model swaps and you had people flying around via flapping their arms and old ladies mauling faces off.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
mountain lions in RDR have an uncanny tendency to ninja behind you at crucial moments and completely obliterate your lifebar. i once lost two hours of progress in RDR2 because of a legendary cougar attack and that same cougar later encountered me in a totally different region like twenty miles from its usual hunting grounds

and that may be why that video had me bent over laugh-sobbing on my desk

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Commander Keene posted:

Literally the sum of what I know about RDR is this video and another one where IIRC a glitch caused a bunch of model swaps and you had people flying around via flapping their arms and old ladies mauling faces off.

Well in that case, here's another one that I hope you haven't seen, because I love it so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Aj2Pt5vWT8

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Jerusalem posted:

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brp5iwZoCoc

I absolutely love that "mission", it's such feelgood vibes.

This is good but I almost prefer this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Nf2S12QlI

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

Oxxidation posted:

mountain lions in RDR have an uncanny tendency to ninja behind you at crucial moments and completely obliterate your lifebar. i once lost two hours of progress in RDR2 because of a legendary cougar attack and that same cougar later encountered me in a totally different region like twenty miles from its usual hunting grounds

and that may be why that video had me bent over laugh-sobbing on my desk

Those "local milfs in your area" advertisements are warnings, not promotions

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

mycot posted:

This is good but I almost prefer this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Nf2S12QlI

The faint screams in the background :lol:

Resdfru
Jun 4, 2004

I'm a freak on a leash.

deep dish peat moss posted:

I think I've made two or three posts about the bear sex thing including the one you quoted and they were both about how it was a huge marketing event for BG3 :kiddo:

I think it's cause I also stumbled upon you talking about it in some gbs thread about how messed up the world is or something. Don't remember exactly but like I said definitely just my brain being dumb rather than you just talking about it every time you post. Just like I'm sure the duck rat? avatar guy doesn't only ever post about how bad Starfield is but that's all I ever notice from him. Anyway, sorry for the derail.

To talk about video games. I just finished horizon zero dawn for the first time. In typical me fashion it took me like 80 hours to crawl through the world and I loved every second of it. Still have frozen wilds to go do.

Any guesses/real info on when we'll see the sequel on pc?

Also rip Lance Reddick, you were cool

Resdfru fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Sep 6, 2023

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Commander Keene posted:

Literally the sum of what I know about RDR is this video and another one where IIRC a glitch caused a bunch of model swaps and you had people flying around via flapping their arms and old ladies mauling faces off.

on the topic of RDR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpR9voou_zw&t=19s

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

sebmojo posted:

Releasing a month early was also an incredibly smart move, and being in a position to do so showed v good management

I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. To be able to do that, have the game not be crippled by bugs and then roll out 5 hotfixes and 2 major patches in the following month is pretty crazy.

For the record I'm not stanning, I'm trying to figure out a job for next year and stuff like that is a real good sign that project management and work/life benefits HR bullshit may actually be good.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Larians CEO/Director talked about it in an interview recently and the reason why they're able to do that is that their teams (spred around the world so that one team can use the work of another team that's currently sleeping) are very well said managed and their tool pipelines just work.

It's the result of a team being allowed and given time to setup an optimized work flow rather than whipped to meet quarterly deadlines.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
I am actually a bit surprised so few game developers have leaned into release automation. It's not that hard to automatically build for all platforms whenever someone commits code or assets to version control, and it's also not that hard to build some automated benchmark mode and run tests each time. You can cut a public release from that and push it out as well, including auto-generated release notes.

Takes some work to build, but once you have it you can rapidly bugfix and release. Other software developers do it, and some indie developers (even some bigger ones, like the Warframe devs iirc) use that approach.

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YjJ9nRcOqEQ&feature=youtu.be

I dunno how to link videos on the phone but this is the only time this will be vaguely relevant.

dervival
Apr 23, 2014

Antigravitas posted:

I am actually a bit surprised so few game developers have leaned into release automation. It's not that hard to automatically build for all platforms whenever someone commits code or assets to version control, and it's also not that hard to build some automated benchmark mode and run tests each time. You can cut a public release from that and push it out as well, including auto-generated release notes.

Takes some work to build, but once you have it you can rapidly bugfix and release. Other software developers do it, and some indie developers (even some bigger ones, like the Warframe devs iirc) use that approach.

You're right in that release automation doesn't take a ton of work to build, but it does take some work to maintain; I can see that getting skimped on during crunch time, and if that starts falling apart it can cause everything to start crashing down fairly quickly. My last position wasn't game development but was software dev related in a team where that collapse had happened in the years past - there was documentation on the automation in the team wiki, but nothing functional or running.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
Okay, I know that's all glitchy and modded, but I've now added Red Dead Redemption 2 to my wishlist.

TeaJay
Oct 9, 2012


It's a great game. Probably one of the best campaign/ story modes I've ever played in a video game. That one riding sequence near the end, you know the one I mean.

And then there's online, with a few friends it's great fun but unfortunately completely abandoned by Rockstar, since GTA Online sells more.

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Major Isoor
Mar 23, 2011

TeaJay posted:

That one riding sequence near the end, you know the one I mean.

Yeeaah, I know the one. I had a horse I found in the wild right at the start and took him all the way through the game. Poor boy didn't deserve what happened to him :( Great game though, you're absolutely right

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