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Mother Righteous is definitely the go-getter in the family. Maybe Orbis is doing some space poo poo at the moment, although I kinda feel like Orbis is just there to round out the suits. Stasis is really just Sinister except with human genes instead of mutant ones, and he's probably prone to the exact same flaw of playing around with his clones in his lab when he should be trying to eradicate mutants (maybe he's taking a week off after the Gala). It's hard to see how the Dominion could be anybody besides MR at the moment, but hey there's still a lot of directions it could go. There's also the possibility of a wild card? A joker? The other Sinisters are just trying to keep their respective factions alive long enough to get absorbed by a Phalanx, right, so maybe there's a robot Sinister who's gone right to the source? That might overlap too much with Moira, though.
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And people are talking about how brutal Kate is, but uh, well Xavier is starting to give her a run for her money.
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Sep 7, 2023 02:15
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Well that's the best fictional proposal I ever did see.
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Sep 7, 2023 02:43
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I'm gettin real tired of this Mother Righteous dude
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mother righteous already basically carried out her plan for apotheosis in the sos timeline. it was a fanatical cult of mutants dedicated to her, which granted her incredible mystical power. and that was a very small cult, consisting mostly of short-lived clones. she just couldn't compete with sinister's overwhelming advantage. but now, righteous has uncontested (as far as she knows) access to hundreds of thousands of mutants. the real leaders of mutantkind are all absent. hope is very well equipped to wage a one woman guerilla war, but she can't handle politics and subtle manipulation. another important point is that no one can leave. if eden or lila cheney had been sent through the gates, she would have sequestered them like the rest of the five. that's probably also what happened to forge, since he could eventually invent a way back from anywhere. unfortunately, the element that is necessary to make it all work is all of the krakoans being really loving stupid. none of these schmucks are suspicious of mother righteous at all.
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Who is this bug boy Oh it's Kafka ...Why is he so smol .........adorable.  I would like to squish..............Wait whY IS HE CALLED KAFKA If you think about it with our updated context, the Orchis plan actually seems...kinda bad? They're sitting there patting themselves on the back saying well done friends, we got rid of the mutants! We won! Except like...they have no idea where the mutants actually are, so how are they sure that the mutants aren't just going to come back? How would they stop that from happening? Like, even without Mother Righteous' interference, the original plan was just to send them to Mars. Mars, where they are aligned with multiple alien empires that own spaceships. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Sep 7, 2023 |
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Sep 7, 2023 03:45
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The mutants would have definitely been like 'drat you got us, guess we better leave everything we ever knew and all our old life-connections and fly off to space, never to darken your doorstep again!' -- very good thinking by Orchis, especially since as I recall new mutants are still being born now?
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Codependent Poster posted:And people are talking about how brutal Kate is, but uh, well Xavier is starting to give her a run for her money. Well yeah but Xavier is clearly broken and mistakenly thinks he killed thousands of mutants.
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BrianWilly posted:
Mars is currently having a civil war (set up by Orchis), and many of the Arakkii view Krakoans as weaklings they can push around. Also remember they planned on holding the hostages over their heads. Nessus posted:The mutants would have definitely been like 'drat you got us, guess we better leave everything we ever knew and all our old life-connections and fly off to space, never to darken your doorstep again!' -- very good thinking by Orchis, especially since as I recall new mutants are still being born now? Orchis has treatments to make people baseline again.
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Sep 7, 2023 04:01
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MonsterEnvy posted:Orchis has treatments to make people baseline again.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Mars is currently having a civil war (set up by Orchis), and many of the Arakkii view Krakoans as weaklings they can push around. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Sep 7, 2023 |
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Sep 7, 2023 04:38
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Nessus posted:Has anyone ever done the opposite, or does that just make people melt into protoplasm? sinister gave himself a mutant gene, but i don't know how viable that is for people that aren't scientific abominations.
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Aren't the Fenris twins also artificial mutants?
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:killing was always this easy for her, except that kate's ethics wouldn't allow it. and well, that's no longer a factor. i bet she will be quite embarrassed when all the mutants return! It's always morally correct to kill Nazis. Ask Captain America, whose first response to the latest turn of events was "Find me some of the most morally dubious people we have, and lets start killing people.". And if you can't trust Cap, who can you trust?
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:sinister gave himself a mutant gene, but i don't know how viable that is for people that aren't scientific abominations. Maybe if you have permanent emigrants to Krakoa you give them some kind of good power.
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Angry Salami posted:Aren't the Fenris twins also artificial mutants? Yeah, that was done while they were in the womb apparently, so maybe that's easier than doing it after birth? In vitro gene editing is a technology that kind of exists in reality after all.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:unfortunately, the element that is necessary to make it all work is all of the krakoans being really loving stupid. none of these schmucks are suspicious of mother righteous at all. Kurt was. You'd figure he would have told someone before running off. But also it appears that Apocalypse knows what's up.
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There are also the Mutates that Magneto made in the Savage Land, though I think they are somehow distinct from X-Gene mutants.
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Codependent Poster posted:But also it appears that Apocalypse knows what's up. Did I miss something? I just saw a silent page of Apocalypse at the end of Immortal and that was it...? Also, no idea what all those Wolverines were about or how they come to life.
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Saoshyant posted:Did I miss something? I just saw a silent page of Apocalypse at the end of Immortal and that was it...? Yeah the Apocalypse with Jean (?) on a chain like a dog seemed out of left field. I assume the Wolverines are leftovers from Beast's program some or all of which have been reprogrammed by Orchis.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Yeah the Apocalypse with Jean (?) on a chain like a dog seemed out of left field. This was my assumption. Either that or the whole lot are magical constructs created by Mother Righteous. Jean being there certainly calls them all into question.
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Saoshyant posted:Did I miss something? I just saw a silent page of Apocalypse at the end of Immortal and that was it...? The Wolverines were attacking Mother Righteous. Then we see Apocalypse with another and Jean, maybe? Or a clone of her? Anyway, what I took away from it was that Apocalypse was hunting down Mother Righteous. In his last appearance, Apocalypse talks about gathering his own forces and the Revelation. In this issue, Exodus talks about Revelation coming soon. This is not a coincidence. Exodus also mentions Satan, but this being on the last panel with Apocalypse is a misdirection, I think. Who most closely resembles Satan here? Mother Righteous. Codependent Poster fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Sep 7, 2023 |
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Rochallor posted:Yeah, that was done while they were in the womb apparently, so maybe that's easier than doing it after birth? In vitro gene editing is a technology that kind of exists in reality after all. I think it’s one of the only ways it works. X-Gene has to be implanted early in life or it won’t grant powers. During Sins of Sinister being granted an X-Gene was how you got to benefit from Resurrection, but none of the baselines who were given an X-Gene seemed to have gotten powers from it.
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Unrelated, but I've seen a Magneto mini on the new comics releases for a bit now and I'm wondering a) if anybody is reading it and b) why it exists? It's another of those nostalgia series set in a previous era, but it's written by J. M. DeMatteis, who I gather has had some big runs on Captain America and Spider-Man, but has written very little X-stuff and very little Marvel stuff this millennium. That shouldn't preclude somebody from working on a Magneto book, but I'm struggling to see the appeal of putting out this specific book at all.
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I have it because I told my comic guy to pull everything X-Men at the start of HoXPoX, but haven't read it for the reasons you cited, combined with being annoyed that the Storm mini was the same thing.
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it's bad. it retcons silver age magneto as being an act that he might have gotten a bit too into sometimes. he also deliberately jobbed to the xmen.
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Codependent Poster posted:In his last appearance, Apocalypse talks about gathering his own forces and the Revelation. In this issue, Exodus talks about Revelation coming soon. This is not a coincidence. Exodus also mentions Satan, but this being on the last panel with Apocalypse is a misdirection, I think. Who most closely resembles Satan here? Mother Righteous. Also, 'Apocalypse' literally means 'revelation'.
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Apocalypse's secondary mutation revealed to be the Omega Sanction. Wolverine is immune
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Did anyone besides Emma get a secondary mutation? I know Beast turned into a cat and then several other things, but that could just be another side effect of the potion he took that made him blue and fuzzy in the first place.
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Air Skwirl posted:Did anyone besides Emma get a secondary mutation? Xavier, recently(?).
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Air Skwirl posted:Did anyone besides Emma get a secondary mutation? I know Beast turned into a cat and then several other things, but that could just be another side effect of the potion he took that made him blue and fuzzy in the first place. Angel got healing blood.
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Soft Serve was able to make FroYo too
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Air Skwirl posted:Did anyone besides Emma get a secondary mutation? I know Beast turned into a cat and then several other things, but that could just be another side effect of the potion he took that made him blue and fuzzy in the first place.
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I think he got a completely ice form when he iced up instead of being just covered in it. But honestly who could tell
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Elixir got gold skin, Husk got mood swings (lol), Black Tom can turn into a plant. There are some others but secondary mutations all suck besides Emma's.
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Didn't Calisto get tentacles or something ? I was barely reading in that era. And Caliban got buff from Apocalypse, not a secondary mutation, right? Synthbuttrange posted:I think he got a completely ice form when he iced up instead of being just covered in it. But honestly who could tell It's really funny that like three writers tried a "AND NOW HE CAN TURN INTO PURE ICE" when the first time he was able to do that (that I remember) was like 1996 or some poo poo (whenever Emma took over his body and was like "drat you ain't driving this thing right"). I think one of my favorite eras was when he had to wear a belt in X-Factor or he became a walking blizzard. I love Bobby, the best X-man .
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no the tentacles was from Masque doing his creepy poo poo.
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Synthbuttrange posted:no the tentacles was from Masque doing his creepy poo poo. Has Masque been in anything in the Krakoa era? They should sneak into every Orchis bedroom at night and not horribly disfigure them, but just give them a permanent pimple on their forehead or nose or cheek. Just enough to make them embarrassed about public appearances but still have to do them. It would undermine moral and limit their credibility. Who would you believe Scott Summer in some dope rear end Raybans or this pimpley rear end dork?
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Masque was in Marauders actually helping people in a hospital or something. He was also in New Mutants where he helped Cosmar make her new face. (That was him right? I can't actually recognize any of these 80s mofos)
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