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I bought Starfield because I'm home sick with Covid this week, and I don't know if it's Covid brain or if the game's just not that good/has a bad first impression, but I refunded pretty quickly. I assume I'll still play it down the line, especially if they or modders make some UI improvements, but it unfortunately felt like more of a game pass game than a keeper to me atm. It's just weird to me for a major AAA release that took eight years to make to feel that clunky, and I kind of felt like Bethesda's been trapped in amber for the last 15 years or something.
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It's interesting to see that Starfield's highest concurrence on Steam comes nowhere close to BG3's or Cyberpunk's and is, in fact, well under Fallout 4's launch figures. I wonder how much of it is because of Gamepass and how much is due to people still playing/being burned out by BG3. If it's the former, then I wonder if Valve's gonna start worrying about the long term.
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It’s almost certainly Gamepass. Why pay $70 for a game new when you can pay 15bux and play it for a few hours before uninstalling.
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exquisite tea posted:It’s almost certainly Gamepass. Why pay $70 for a game new when you can pay 15bux and play it for a few hours before uninstalling. Also it's a Bethesda game so you expect it to be buggy; added incentive to get it on Game Pass
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Or just wait for the inevitable GoTY edition(s), during which time, people will make all the cool mods that are the "Real" part of the Bethesda Game.
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I wonder if the 70 dollar price tag was another method of directing people to Gamepass which is what Microsoft really cares about
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Resdfru posted:I wonder if the 70 dollar price tag was another method of directing people to Gamepass which is what Microsoft really cares about Quite possibly. Like, titanfall 2 is on sale for a third the price of a big mac locally, but it's only as such so people will be forced into another storefront? Like seriously someone help me here, am I gonna be fuckin' laucnhing EA Origin through proton and trying to not have it all glitch out? I was gonna ask the thread if there's a way to prevent that storefront nesting, then realized I was just asking for a crack and I might as well pirate it anyways; its only on sale as a loss leader, they don't really care about the four bucks.
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Serephina posted:Quite possibly. it's not that complicated it's on sale because it's an old game with few buyers by this point. there is nobody left who is buying titanfall at full price. it's been on sale for 5bux before too
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Sep 7, 2023 01:57
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I don't know about titanfall since it's older but modern EA games launch what's essentially a background version of origin or the EA app. As far as I remember from mass effect legendary it opened in the background and closed when the game closed. So there was never any egregious 'Look at our app'ness going on
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Sep 7, 2023 02:05
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its not the worst game Bethesda made but drat if it isnt the blandest
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exquisite tea posted:It’s almost certainly Gamepass. Why pay $70 for a game new when you can pay 15bux and play it for a few hours before uninstalling. Gamepass is still $1 for your first month as long as you sign up through the Xbox app on PC, even if you've used that deal before. Paying $70-100 for starfield is just absurd.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Gamepass is still $1 for your first month as long as you sign up through the Xbox app on PC, even if you've used that deal before. Paying $70-100 for starfield is just absurd. This alas does not work for me. They want $11.99 CAD for gamepass through the xbox app on PC. How are you getting it to offer you the deal?
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deep dish peat moss posted:Gamepass is still $1 for your first month as long as you sign up through the Xbox app on PC, even if you've used that deal before. Paying $70-100 for starfield is just absurd. That hasn't worked for me for a long time now.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Gamepass is still $1 for your first month as long as you sign up through the Xbox app on PC, even if you've used that deal before. Paying $70-100 for starfield is just absurd.
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I signed up for $1 gamepass yesterday specifically to play starfield, it was just available in the Xbox app  maybe it was because my game pass sub has been expired for months?I signed up probably an hour before launch so maybe they disabled it at the launch time. e: Actually it has been a little over a year since my sub was last active so maybe you just need to be away for a long time. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Sep 7, 2023 |
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Mordja posted:It's interesting to see that Starfield's highest concurrence on Steam comes nowhere close to BG3's or Cyberpunk's and is, in fact, well under Fallout 4's launch figures. I wonder how much of it is because of Gamepass and how much is due to people still playing/being burned out by BG3. If it's the former, then I wonder if Valve's gonna start worrying about the long term. Honestly it is more impressive that its maximum concurrent is below BG3 a month after its release. I do think that the game being on game pass is a huge factor in there. Also BG3 and Cyberpunką were PC exclusives at their respective launches, while a lot of Starfielders are in the XBOX ecosystem instead. ąI know CP came out on consoles too, but it was kinda unplayable in those platforms at the time.
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I got a new laptop for school and it came with 3 months of Game Pass Ultimate. So yeah, apparently that's a thing and it's the start of a new school year.
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Titanfall 2 is also on gamepass.
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Perhaps the most Starfield thing for me so far is the background trait that gives you a fancy high-end player home that you gotta pay a mortgage for. After the initial tutorial missions I go to check it out and... it's just in the middle of nowhere. I had kind of expected it to be at some point of interest, near a significant landmark or settlement. But it just seems plopped in some random piece of terrain, with what appears to be a couple of generic procedurally generated buildings nearby, staffed by generic merc enemies. I guess maybe it's intended to let you eventually build an outpost around it, but coming from the actually kinda nice cities it sure feels very 
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Is your point that a quarter of that million were on steam?
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fez_machine posted:Is your point that a quarter of that million were on steam? Yes
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it seems valve changed how offline mode works. i had to literally disconnect from the internet for it let me play the game my brother was already playing. i'm pretty sure before just going into offline mode was functionally equivalent.
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Mordja posted:It's interesting to see that Starfield's highest concurrence on Steam comes nowhere close to BG3's or Cyberpunk's and is, in fact, well under Fallout 4's launch figures. I wonder how much of it is because of Gamepass and how much is due to people still playing/being burned out by BG3. If it's the former, then I wonder if Valve's gonna start worrying about the long term. Don't think they have to worry that much about this. Steam ecosystem is too huge, too many revenue venues and already everything in place to have subscription options added. If anything, and I think thats not really a secret, they do not like that Microsoft is (also) the owner of the PC platform as such through Windows
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Yeah I think it’s more likely that Microsoft needs Steam’s committed userbase eventually to continue growing Gamepass than Gamepass starts having major effects on Steam. Even if it’s just a cheaper, 1st-party only option like EA’s thing.
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A reminder, because I never knew this, that Valve makes, between 50 and 100 million dollars *a month* from people opening CSGO cases lmao
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csgo is popular but there's also the whole element of csgo skins being a popular surrogate currency for 3rd party gambling sites valve could easily crack down on the trading bots used to move assets in and out of the casinos but they make a shitload of money from them indirectly so lol
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The funny part is that Valve have gotten dinged by legislation in multiple countries but they always find a half-assed way around it. To get around gambling legislation in France, cs:go players are all given an “x-ray gun” that lets them see what is in a crate. The catch is that you have to take the item out of the crate before the gun can be used on anything else. In Belgium and Holland, players can’t open the crates. In both of these cases, the changes still encourage players to trade on the marketplace, so valve gets a cut. I get grey hairs every time I see politicians talking about banning lootboxes. It just isn’t that simple, sadly
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Fruits of the sea posted:
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Because you can see what result will be, it isn’t gambling, according to the way the law is written 
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Sab669 posted:Keeping with the RDR2 glitch videos that got posted the other day; only 3 days before retirement too 
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1931770/Chants_of_Sennaar/ Chants of Sennaar is a game about interpreting unknown languages. There are very few games in this genre (Heaven's Vault and Sethian are the only ones I recall), so I had to instantly grab it. It's a great game, took me about 8 hours to get the full ending. The good: - Beautiful somewhat minimalistic graphics. You really get the feeling you're in a giant tower reaching to the heavens. - Creative and well designed languages, and you get a feel of each faction from how the glyphs are written - Not one of those games that just use English with the font set to WinDings The bad(?): - The language learning is a bit too hand-holding, at specific points you are given a note page of 3-4 illustrations and you have to connect each illustration to a glyph. If you are correct, you are given the exact translation of the word, which makes it a bit more of a puzzle game like Obra Dinn than a "proper" learning experience. On the other hand, this means the player rarely gets stuck on some hard to understand words, and keeps the flow of the game going. - For a game about language, there is a lack of it. Only a few of the NPCs you meet talk, and they only give a few sentences each. Written language is generally in the form of murals, signs and short notes. The worst example of this is when you encounter a library, and there isn't a single book you can read, only a few scattered notes and plaques. This means that without the "answer key" given to you, you could go the whole game with major misunderstandings. One example: Early in the game there is a few occurences of a glyph that I interpreted as sun, but the real translation was God. This glyph doesn't occur that often, and while thematically connected, gives a different vibe to certain conversations. - The player character runs a bit too slow for these gorgeous vistas you traverse The ugly: - They put stealth sections in the language learning game. They are thankfully not hard and have checkpoints, but ugh.
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ok this is kinda funny lolPC Gamer posted:Bethesda's Todd Howard and Xbox head Phil Spencer have been on the interview circuit for the launch of Starfield, as part of which the pair granted an interview to Bloomberg Technology. While the questions have a more general business focus and veer into things like Game Pass and the Elder Scrolls 6 (no new info), the show starts with Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow rather starkly putting an audience question to Howard: "why did you not optimise this game for PC?"
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The 7th Guest posted:ok this is kinda funny lol ~Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.~
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The 7th Guest posted:ok this is kinda funny lol He meant “the fans are responding deafeningly” because your PC fans sound like a rocket when you launch it.
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todd howard FTW
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The 7th Guest posted:ok this is kinda funny lol https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1699703814209548630
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It's kind of a stupid question to be fair. It's just a demanding game (justified or not) regardless of what platform it's running on.
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Starfield min spec for reference: Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, Intel Core i7-6800K. Memory: 16 GB RAM. Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti.
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