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Tzen: Sep 11, 2001

U-DO Burger posted:

stupid sexy virus

# ? Sep 8, 2023 04:03

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# ? May 25, 2024 16:04

Paradoxish: Dec 19, 2003; Will you stop going crazy in there?

Asproigerosis posted:

Yeah the constant desire of people to try to square peg covid into the round hole of seasonal genuinely bothers me. It's not a seasonal virus you idiots.

It's also not mild or endemic or "just the flu" and yet

# ? Sep 8, 2023 04:20

text editor: Jan 8, 2007

Steve Yun posted:

https://twitter.com/bnofeed/status/1699872581506023593?s=46

wow Jill Biden drone spiked the Spanish prime minister

Xi backed out like hours before the Jill Biden announcement hit

I like to think he doomscrolls cspam with us to keep up with waves

# ? Sep 8, 2023 04:20

Teabag Dome Scandal: Mar 19, 2002

Can I get a reminder of what weed does to Pax? The OP has a link that doesn't seem to go over it.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 04:34

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

https://twitter.com/ghhughes/status/1699976849479418344?s=46

# ? Sep 8, 2023 04:41

VomitOnLino: Jun 13, 2005; Sometimes I get lost.

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

Copeland you say?

What's his fridge like?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 04:43

bobtheconqueror: May 10, 2005

Teabag Dome Scandal posted:

Can I get a reminder of what weed does to Pax? The OP has a link that doesn't seem to go over it.

One of the components of Pax makes your body take longer to filter out stuff, which means if you get high while on Pax you'll probably be higher for longer periods, so it's generally recommended you reduce or stop your intake of weed while on Paxlovid.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 04:44

WrasslorMonkey: Mar 5, 2012

Steve Yun posted:

https://twitter.com/ghhughes/status/1699976849479418344?s=46

I got my readimasks, now I just gotta build up the will to do the nose mask hack and go to the doctor/dentist about this weird tmj soreness that suddenly started.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 04:46

DominoKitten: Aug 7, 2012

Steve Yun posted:

https://twitter.com/ghhughes/status/1699976849479418344?s=46

uuuuuh somehow doubting the efficacy of a mask that you can straight up see nostrils from below on

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:04

tangy yet delightful: Sep 13, 2005

Steve Yun posted:

https://twitter.com/ghhughes/status/1699976849479418344?s=46

I'm gonna dicknose my mask but then have this mask on my nose.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:11

Mola Yam: Jun 18, 2004; Kali Ma Shakti de!

re-evaluating my "any mask is better than no mask" stance

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:14

Soap Scum: Aug 8, 2003

DominoKitten posted:

uuuuuh somehow doubting the efficacy of a mask that you can straight up see nostrils from below on

it's because of the Western Nose, you see

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:27

Coolness Averted: Feb 20, 2007; oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

DominoKitten posted:

uuuuuh somehow doubting the efficacy of a mask that you can straight up see nostrils from below on

Yeah that strikes me more as theatre or a placebo than something genuinely useful.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:35

dxt: Mar 27, 2004; METAL DISCHARGE

U-DO Burger posted:

stupid sexy virus

feel like we're doing nothing at all!

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:40

Teabag Dome Scandal: Mar 19, 2002

bobtheconqueror posted:

One of the components of Pax makes your body take longer to filter out stuff, which means if you get high while on Pax you'll probably be higher for longer periods, so it's generally recommended you reduce or stop your intake of weed while on Paxlovid.

Ok now that we've got the benefits out of the way what are the downsides?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:44

hailthefish: Oct 24, 2010

Teabag Dome Scandal posted:

Ok now that we've got the benefits out of the way what are the downsides?

mainly that a bunch of SAD posters might come through and start having a normal one

but also it's just generally wise not to stress your liver too hard because you might need it later

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:48

smelly goblin: Jul 27, 2022

Steve Yun posted:

https://twitter.com/ghhughes/status/1699976849479418344?s=46

Bc of this post I just found 3m nostril masks that you stick up in there. Bought some and gonna try them out for when I go to the orthodontist.

https://www.o2nosefilters.com/shop/

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:54

Coolness Averted: Feb 20, 2007; oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

smelly goblin posted:

Bc of this post I just found 3m nostril masks that you stick up in there. Bought some and gonna try them out for when I go to the orthodontist.

https://www.o2nosefilters.com/shop/

Careful with those, it looks exactly like the sort of business that's gonna get a nasty letter from OSHA or CPSC, since they're not rated but even make claims about using them for PPE because they use rated materials with research behind them. Like those aren't 3M masks, they just purchased 3M materials to make them.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:09

Mola Yam: Jun 18, 2004; Kali Ma Shakti de!

unhinged lunatics in the covid thread are boofing masks now. end this madness!!

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:11

Real Mean Queen: Jun 2, 2004; Zesty.

I believe Mexico also invented the nose mask a few years ago, and it looked pretty dumb then too

Paradoxish posted:

It's also not mild or endemic or "just the flu" and yet

There is something kind of funny about a new thing showing up and everyone just being all "no no no, that's that old thing, we already had that." Like a guy holding up a tablet and calling it a newspaper because it has the news on it, it's just sort of silly.

Real Mean Queen has issued a correction as of 06:14 on Sep 8, 2023

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:12

Precambrian Video Games: Aug 19, 2002

smelly goblin posted:

Bc of this post I just found 3m nostril masks that you stick up in there. Bought some and gonna try them out for when I go to the orthodontist.

https://www.o2nosefilters.com/shop/

These were discussed a few weeks? ago and someone said that these cannot physically work, even if they perfectly contoured your nostrils. The best plan is probably to try your hardest to grow a dense forest of thick, luxurious, electrostatically charged nose hairs.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:23

DickParasite: Dec 2, 2004; Slippery Tilde

eXXon posted:

The best plan is probably to try your hardest to grow a dense forest of thick, luxurious, electrostatically charged nose hairs.

Way ahead of you chief.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:32

smelly goblin: Jul 27, 2022

eXXon posted:

These were discussed a few weeks? ago and someone said that these cannot physically work, even if they perfectly contoured your nostrils. The best plan is probably to try your hardest to grow a dense forest of thick, luxurious, electrostatically charged nose hairs.

That sucks to hear. Orthodontists are terrifying bc they put you in a cursed communal chair room where everyone is being worked on at the same time. I can never get the readi mask trick to work even with tape and they always fight me over it to take it off lmao. The bottom part of the mask never sticks for me and when I try to tape it down the tape comes off too idk wtf is wrong with my face or skin.

smelly goblin has issued a correction as of 06:39 on Sep 8, 2023

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:35

Tzen: Sep 11, 2001

tangy yet delightful posted:

I'm gonna dicknose my mask but then have this mask on my nose.

loling at this mental image

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:45

emgeejay: Dec 8, 2007

https://twitter.com/kelewis/status/1699993743884165630?s=46&t=m6fGiglUP1-mz5m0sRqpiw
two common post-covid effects here: new food allergies, and a collapsing healthcare system

# ? Sep 8, 2023 07:08

harrygomm: Oct 19, 2004; can u run n jump?

Coolness Averted posted:

Careful with those, it looks exactly like the sort of business that's gonna get a nasty letter from OSHA or CPSC, since they're not rated but even make claims about using them for PPE because they use rated materials with research behind them. Like those aren't 3M masks, they just purchased 3M materials to make them.

i�m the �Endorsed by: [this space intentionally left blank]�

# ? Sep 8, 2023 07:25

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

CDC hopes new �Wild to Mild� ad campaign will tame skepticism about flu vaccines

quote:

It�s rolling out new ads it hopes will increase confidence in the vaccines with a clear, straightforward message: The flu vaccine won�t keep a person from getting sick, but it will tame that infection, taking it from �Wild to Mild� � the tagline for the new campaign.

Dr. Bill Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University, thinks the CDC is on the right track with these ads. He says people have been confused about what flu shots can do.

Schaffner, who is part of an expert committee that advises the CDC on vaccines, says we have measured the effectiveness of flu vaccine the same way we evaluate the effectiveness of all other vaccines for measles, polio and whooping cough � how well a vaccine completely prevents disease.

For respiratory viruses, that bar is too high, Schaffner said.

�With these respiratory viruses, flu included, the vaccines aren�t very good at preventing milder disease. They�re much better at preventing the serious complications. And I think we have not been very clear in presenting that information,� Schaffner said. �We have to acknowledge that. We we have to say �Yep, it won�t prevent that mild disease. But here�s the benefit.��

The campaign shows a ferocious animal, like a tiger, juxtaposed against something that�s not scary, like a kitten.

quote:

In focus groups, people said they liked the new campaign because it struck them as transparent, Burns said.

Burns said experts have long believed flu vaccines could attenuate illness, but the CDC felt cautious about making the claim because they didn�t have data to back it up. Now, she said, they do.

�We started measuring how the vaccine works by measuring against a pretty low bar � does it keep you from going to the doctor? I don�t know that�s so meaningful in the public�s opinion,� she said.

Now, she says, the CDC has deepened its vaccine surveillance network to look at attenuation of illness. There�s a strong and growing evidence base that vaccination does blunt a bout with the flu.

The situation is the same for the Covid-19 vaccines: A new batch of shots updated to defend against the XBB.1.5 variant and its descendants is expected to be available in a few weeks.

Schaffner said he liked the catchphrases in the campaign, but hoped there would be more education around them, too.

�This is a great start. I like the catchphrases, as long as we get some information that comes behind it or with it in order to make these catchphrases a little more meaningful,� he said.

The Baileys in Chuck Schumer�s head will love it.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 10:27

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

Q: what's the cheapest place to buy antigen tests in bulk? It looks like Costco used to sell 600 flowflex tests for $499, but no longer does...

# ? Sep 8, 2023 10:59

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1699961806004039949?s=46

# ? Sep 8, 2023 11:38

spiritual bypass: Feb 19, 2008; Grimey Drawer

Teabag Dome Scandal posted:

Can I get a reminder of what weed does to Pax? The OP has a link that doesn't seem to go over it.

makes you see colors

# ? Sep 8, 2023 11:47

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

quote:

The BA.4/BA.5 and ancestral SARS-CoV-2 (D614G) were assessed using validated pseudovirus assays, and those for XBB.1.5, XBB.1.16, and BQ.1.1, were qualified assays (Duke University).3 In a separate analysis, ancestral SARS-CoV2 (Wuhan- Hu-1, D614G) and BA.4/BA.5, XBB.1.5, XBB.1.16, XBB.2.3.2, EG.5.1, FL.1.5.1 and BA.2.86 variants were assessed using a research grade Vesicular Stomatitis Virus (VSV)-based SARS- CoV-2 Pseudovirus Neutralization Assay in a randomly-selected subgroup (n=20) of participants who received mRNA-1273.815.

😡

My kingdom for a BSL‑3 lab and authentic virus.

We would have been extremely misled in the initial Omicron emergence if all we had had were pseudovirus assays.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 11:50

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Platystemon posted:

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We would have been extremely misled in the initial Omicron emergence if all we had had were pseudovirus assays.

I am not doubting you, but is this a documented fact? As in do we have an Omicron pseudovirus study demonstrating this?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:35

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

This explains the sudden increase in UK BA.2.86.1 cases:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-08/uk-detects-outbreak-of-pirola-covid-strain-at-norfolk-care-home posted:

UK Detects Outbreak of Pirola Covid Strain at Norfolk Care Home

The UK has found 34 confirmed cases of Covid-19 infection by the new, highly mutated Pirola variant, most of them occurring in a single outbreak at a Norfolk care home.

Community transmission of the variant is probably taking place across the country, although it�s still unclear if the strain causes more severe disease than previous versions or will become dominant, according to the UK Health Security Agency.

Twenty-eight of the infections occurred at a care home in Norfolk, where staff and residents were asked to test for Covid after an unusually high number of people became ill, the agency said. Whole genome sequencing confirmed that Pirola, officially called BA.2.86 [ed. it was actually BA.2.86.1], was in the majority of the samples.

So far, five of the 34 people known to be infected in England have been hospitalized and no deaths have been reported.
(..)

Now that is a very high percentage being hospitalized, but again this is primarly (28/34) from an outbreak in a care home.

Archived link: https://archive.li/93Zhq

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:48

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

This should surprise no one (considering the Virginia case was traveling from Japan):

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/09/08/japan/science-health/covid19-ba286-variant/ posted:

New COVID variant BA.2.86 detected in Japan amid wave of infections

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:51

icantfindaname: Jul 1, 2008

Petey posted:

Q: what's the cheapest place to buy antigen tests in bulk? It looks like Costco used to sell 600 flowflex tests for $499, but no longer does...

https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/clinitest-rapid-covid-19-antigen-self-test/23312022

Not sure about the expiration dates

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:52

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Just to give some idea of the level of testing and tracking, here is Israel as an example:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-covid-variant-pirola-gathers-pace-health-ministry-mum-on-plans-to-fend-off-threat/ posted:

As COVID variant Pirola gathers pace, Health Ministry mum on plans to fend off threat
With cases mounting in Israel and abroad, some are raising alarms and making moves to combat the fresh coronavirus threat, amid concerns over a new vaccine aimed at other mutations
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The Health Ministry reports that the number of people in Israel testing positive for the virus has jumped 13% overall in the past several weeks, and the rate is increasing daily.

As of September 3, the country had 1,081 active cases, with 245 hospitalizations. Forty-two of these patients were in serious condition, including five who were in critical condition. There was no information as to whether there were any deaths caused directly by COVID during this recent period.
(..)

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:55

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Pingui posted:

I am not doubting you, but is this a documented fact? As in do we have an Omicron pseudovirus study demonstrating this?

Some of the first studies released that December were duelling authentic and pseudovirus assays.

The former showed a reduction of forty-one fold in neutralizing titers. The latter showed only a sevenfold reduction. Bit of a discrepancy.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1468403610178363396

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 13:16 on Sep 8, 2023

# ? Sep 8, 2023 13:09

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Beyond the :britain:

specifics, this is a decent read that is more or less applicable to the entirety of Europe as well:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/08/autumn-covid-booster-britain-uk-vaccine-long-covid-economy posted:

Why aren�t we all being offered an autumn Covid booster? It�s not cost-effective to keep Britain healthy
The UK�s limited vaccine offer ignores the serious threat of long Covid � and the knock-on effects on the economy
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The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has the tricky task of making decisions about the UK�s booster plans. Factors such as population susceptibility and infection severity are typically considered, but this autumn, the JCVI �has begun to include cost-effectiveness considerations in the development of its advice�.

This has meant that, whereas the autumn 2022 booster programme targeted over-50s for both flu and Covid, this autumn will see a more limited offer of both vaccines. Only those over the age of 65, carers, frontline healthcare workers and the clinically vulnerable will be eligible for free boosters. Flu vaccines should be available to purchase by the public but, as yet, Covid vaccines will not be. The major effect of narrowing the eligible group is that all over-50s who were previously eligible will now be at least one year out from their last booster.

This much reduced vaccine offer does pose the question: what was considered in the cost-effectiveness analysis? A cost-benefit analysis of doses administered against hospitalisation and excess deaths is clearly vital; but what about considering the cost of lost working days, reduced school attendance and new cases of long Covid? Not only that, but also the sheer devastation experienced by those struggling with severe illness and the exhaustion of frontline workers in an overstretched NHS.

The JCVI�s statement indicates that it considers there is too much uncertainty regarding the significance of post-Covid syndromes � and these were not factored into the cost-benefit analysis.
(..)

# ? Sep 8, 2023 13:14

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Platystemon posted:

Some of the first studies released that December duelling authentic and pseudovirus assays.

The former showed a reduction of forty-one fold in neutralizing titers. The latter showed only a sevenfold reduction. Bit of a discrepancy.
(..)

"Nice", thank you!

# ? Sep 8, 2023 13:14

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# ? May 25, 2024 16:04

BigWeirdSashimi: Jul 10, 2019

Pingui posted:

Beyond the specifics, this is a decent read that is more or less applicable to the entirety of Europe as well:

It's simply not cost effective to house slaves, that's why we shoot them at the end of a day's labor

Why doesn't anybody want to work?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 13:25

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