[Asia/Oceania] Yellen says she hopes China wont mount retaliation against any steps Washington takes

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > C-SPAM > [Asia/Oceania] Yellen says she hopes China wont mount retaliation against any steps Washington takes

«‹›3005 »

(Thread IKs: fart simpson)

FrancisFukyomama: Feb 4, 2019

patsocs seem like they�re just speed running larouchites

# ? Sep 7, 2023 17:59

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 27, 2024 14:55

Tankbuster: Oct 1, 2021

Orange Devil posted:

So I've watched the first 15 episodes of this show. It's real good, solid recommend. It's fully on YouTube with English subs which are mostly good. Theh keep translating socialist as social democrat though whichnis the only thing that sucks.

The guy asking about reinforcement bars and cement is a straight baller unlocking the productive forces to bring moderate prosperity to his whole village.

critical support to decommissioned PLA engineers who steal sweet potatoes.

# ? Sep 7, 2023 18:05

Maximo Roboto: Feb 4, 2012

FrancisFukyomama posted:

patsocs seem like they�re just speed running larouchites

He is basically a LaRouchite

https://larouchepub.com/pr/2022/20221102_hinkle.html

# ? Sep 7, 2023 18:21

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

if america did go communist the project would definitely have a strong current of Christian mythology and constitutional ideals, that just seems obvious. too much of the working class earnestly believes in that stuff

the "patsocs" just take it to fanfiction territory

# ? Sep 7, 2023 18:45

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

Socialism with united statesean characteristics

# ? Sep 7, 2023 18:53

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Socialism with Puritanism Characteristics

# ? Sep 7, 2023 18:55

wynott dunn: Aug 9, 2006; What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Jesus was a radical leftist because he was over 30 and still had 12 friends he could dine with

# ? Sep 7, 2023 18:55

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

yeah it would kinda suck. but it's not going to happen so pointless to worry about

# ? Sep 7, 2023 18:55

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

well yeah, latin american socialism has all kinds of indigenous and western beliefs embedded in it

# ? Sep 7, 2023 18:56

Maximo Roboto: Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1699262297745621177
https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1699267183241548063

# ? Sep 7, 2023 19:30

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

# ? Sep 7, 2023 19:41

Maximo Roboto: Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/nzsamueltaylor/status/1699616329831989573

# ? Sep 7, 2023 20:06

AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

indigi posted:

if america did go communist the project would definitely have a strong current of Christian mythology and constitutional ideals, that just seems obvious. too much of the working class earnestly believes in that stuff

what does this even mean lol

# ? Sep 7, 2023 20:26

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/kevinsxu/status/1699843616569528821

time for BYD to take over every market not protected by Western arms

# ? Sep 7, 2023 20:58

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

AnimeIsTrash posted:

what does this even mean lol

nobody knows

# ? Sep 7, 2023 21:43

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

FrancisFukyomama posted:

patsocs seem like they’re just speed running larouchites

He joined the Moonies

# ? Sep 7, 2023 23:57

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

these loving psychos lol

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/07/absence-presence-dominance-g20-00114544

quote:

It�s also possible that Xi, facing an economic crisis at home, is wary of leaving his country amid growing domestic discontent.

At the same time, a Chinese economic meltdown � however unlikely � is likely to affect the global economy, so Xi�s decision to skip the G-20, which bills itself as �the premier forum for international economic cooperation� could frustrate those who do attend and wish to speak to Xi on the topic. And with respect to Li, there�s only one person who matters in authoritarian communist China � and he�s not that person.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 00:17

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

i say swears online posted:

these loving psychos lol

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/07/absence-presence-dominance-g20-00114544

"sorry comrade, but there's only two men I trust. one of them's Xi. the other's not you."

# ? Sep 8, 2023 00:43

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

wynott dunn posted:

Jesus was a radical leftist because he was over 30 and still had 12 friends he could dine with

There's a new, good book by Zer0 that's kind of like Liberation Theology for the Post-Bernie Left,

Jesus: A Life in Class Conflict: A major biography of Jesus from a historical materialist perspective

"What made the Jesus movement tick? By situating the life of Jesus of Nazareth in the turbulent troubles of first-century Palestine, Crossley and Myles give a thrilling historical-materialist take on the historical Jesus. Delivering a wealth of knowledge on the social, economic, and cultural conflicts of the time, Jesus: A Life in Class Conflict uncovers the emergence of a fervent and deadly serious religious organizer whose social and religious movement offered not only a radical end-time edict of divine reversal and judgment but also a promising new world order ruled in the interests of the peasantry. The movement�s popular appeal was due in part to a desire to represent the values of ordinary rural workers, and its vision meant that the rich would have to give up their wealth, while the poor would be afforded a life of heavenly luxury. Tensions flared up considerably when the movement marched on Jerusalem and Jesus was willingly martyred for the cause. Crossley and Myles offer a vivid portrait of the man and his movement and uncover the material conditions that converged to make it happen."

This is important because we live in the shadow of our Jewish carpenter not dying to liberate us from our sins or usher in a Kingdom of God, but instead to tell us to VBNMW. I think, even if people aren't struggling with the disappointment of the left in 2016 and particularly 2020, it is worthwhile presenting Christ as a liberator and inspirational figure because we have seen our own leadership stop short of making the sacrifices that would realize the world we hoped for.

I was going to do some more reading and post in Doomsday Econ, but it's a good book and and a reminder that Bernie could have won - if - he fought as if the world depended on it, and gone to the Heart Attack Gun willingly for our sake.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 01:10

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/moghilemear13/status/1699508756084658411

anglos broken by car brain many such cases

# ? Sep 8, 2023 01:20

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

The Mate 60 Pro isn't exclusive to China, right? Like, Huawei is selling the Mate 50 Pro over here currently.

Couldn't the CIA or whatever just have an asset buy one and then fly back to the US and analyze it as much as they want?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 01:47

caelxii: Jun 20, 2003

gradenko_2000 posted:

The Mate 60 Pro isn't exclusive to China, right? Like, Huawei is selling the Mate 50 Pro over here currently.

Couldn't the CIA or whatever just have an asset buy one and then fly back to the US and analyze it as much as they want?

Didn�t they gift one to Raimondo as a polite �gently caress you�?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 02:08

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3: Nov 15, 2003

fart simpson posted:

in talks ive seen he comes across as just a guy who knows which team he was born on and wants his team to make the logical steps to win. i don�t read any true belief in the project or whatever

He sees the Nation as a unit so its logical to him that the ruling classes would make concessions in order for the Nation to win, and illogical that they are not.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 02:09

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

gradenko_2000 posted:

The Mate 60 Pro isn't exclusive to China, right? Like, Huawei is selling the Mate 50 Pro over here currently.

Couldn't the CIA or whatever just have an asset buy one and then fly back to the US and analyze it as much as they want?

Yeah you can buy one with a id card if you are in Shenzhen. They just open for you to prevent reselling. You can buy one online for extra markup.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 02:31

PoontifexMacksimus: Feb 14, 2012

stephenthinkpad posted:

Oh yeah it was a romantic comedy. I still can't decide whether the Hollywood writers went crazy with the promise or I am too ignorant to know you can raise salmon in Yemen.

I mean the movie title is a punt right?

No, Punt was on the other side of the straits, in Africa

# ? Sep 8, 2023 03:21

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/moghilemear13/status/1699508756084658411

anglos broken by car brain many such cases

lol

quote:

Some reasons why you're wrong:

1. Obviously excessive hyperbole
2. China has an extensive river system for moving goods which is much better than the US's (1st pic)
3. ~80% of China's freight activity is here (also where everyone lives). See that ocean? Pretty useful for moving goods. (2nd pic)
4. Industry clusters and for short distances freight rail sucks. Gotta use trucks.
5. The geography and structure of hte US market is totally different from China's and needs freight rail. Our goods come from Asia and must go to the big population centers on east coast and midwest, long distances for which rail is useful.

Have you ever shipped freight in China or anywhere else in your life?

the level of discourse on this site is killing me

https://twitter.com/Molson_Hart/status/1699461870602658192?s=20

# ? Sep 8, 2023 05:51

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

the jakarta method 2.0!

https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1699876064950919598?s=20

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:24

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Vincent Bevins gonna have to come out with a sequel

https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1699876063117996146

quote:

Documents passed anonymously to MintPress News reveal the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a notorious CIA front, is laying the foundations for a color revolution in Indonesia.

In February 2024, citizens will elect their President, Vice President, and both legislative chambers. Current maverick leader Joko Widodo, widely beloved by Indonesians, is ineligible for a third term, and NED is preparing to seize power in the wake of his departure. This operation is conducted despite the leaks indicating Jakarta�s foremost intelligence agency has expressly warned U.S. officials to stay put.

The paper trail is a stunning insight into how NED operates behind the scenes, from which obvious inferences can be drawn about its activities elsewhere, past and present. By the organization�s own reckoning, it operates in over 100 countries and disperses in excess of 2,000 grants every year. In Indonesia, these sums have helped extend the Endowment�s tendrils into various NGOs, civil society groups, and, most crucially, political parties and candidates across the ideological spectrum.

This broad spread bet goes some way to ensuring U.S. assets, one way or another, will emerge victorious next February. However, a veritable army of NED operatives on the ground is also primed to challenge, if not overturn, the results should the wrong people win. Personal grants � in other words, bribes � from the Endowment have already secretly been distributed to Indonesians for staging anti-government protests.

What skullduggery NED has in store for election day isn�t certain, although sparks are assured to fly. At the very least, these documents amply reinforce what Endowment cofounder Allen Weinstein openly admitted in 1991: A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.�

Joko Widodo � popularly known as Jokowi � is something of a rockstar. The first Indonesian leader not drawn from the country�s established political or military elite since its hard-won independence from the Dutch in 1949, he was born and raised in a riverside slum in Surakarta. From there, he fought to become mayor of his hometown in 2005, then governor of Jakarta in 2012, then President two years later.

Every step of the way, Widodo has battled bureaucracy and corruption while pursuing programs to deliver universal healthcare, economic growth, radical infrastructure development, and material improvements to the lives of average citizens. Such is his domestic popularity that analysts routinely speak of the �Jokowi Effect.� After the Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle named him their presidential candidate in 2014, their vote share leaped 30% in that year�s legislative election.

Widodo�s candidacy also reportedly stimulated Indonesia�s stock market and Rupiah currency due to his sparkling political and economic record. One might think burnishing the country�s finances to such a degree through sheer force of personality would make him an ideal leader from Washington�s perspective. Yet, the President has also prioritized �protecting Indonesia�s sovereignty� and limiting overseas influence in Jakarta. Moreover, he pursues an intensely independent foreign policy, much to the U.S. Empire�s chagrin.

Widodo has encouraged leaders of Muslim states to reconcile and pushed for Palestinian independence. His Foreign Minister visits Palestine but refuses to establish diplomatic relations with Israel. He has also distributed sizable aid to oppressed Muslims abroad. Most egregiously, since Russia�s invasion of Ukraine, he flew to both countries and urged their leaders to seek peace. When Jakarta hosted the G20 Summit that year, he invited not only Zelensky but Putin to attend despite fierce Western criticism.

In many ways, Widodo emulates the rule of Sukarno, Indonesia�s first President, from 1945 to 1967. His policies, domestically and internationally, were explicitly anti-imperialist. At home, he prevented Western exploitation of his country�s vast resource wealth while maintaining cordial relations with both East and West and personally championing the Non-Aligned Movement, members of which eschewed both power blocs to pursue an independent path.

...

Widodo is now preparing to leave office, his constitutionally-mandated terms over, and personal approval ratings at all-time highs. His departure creates a clean political slate, which NED is eager to fill. Mercifully, a repeat of the intelligence agency-orchestrated slaughter that brought Suharto to power decades ago appears unlikely. But the leaked documents obtained by MintPress News make clear the U.S. Empire is preparing to pull off another coup in Jakarta under the aegis of �democracy promotion.�

...

The leaked files are weekly briefings dispatched from the Indonesian office of the International Republican Institute (IRI) back to headquarters in Washington during June, July and August 2023. IRI is a core component of NED, which typically works with another, the National Democratic Institute, on regime change operations abroad. The pair are innately linked to their respective namesake political parties at home.

These briefings provide updates on administrative issues, local political developments, staff activities, press clippings, and IRI�s progress on fulfilling the objectives of its NED grant in Indonesia �to improve the capacity of emerging political party leaders to assume leadership positions within the parties and act as agents of change in support of increased internal party democracy, transparency, and responsiveness to citizens.� The last available Endowment grant records, from 2022, show the Institute was given $700,000 for this.

Every week, IRI reported its �outreach� to �emerging leaders� in the country � graduates of NED training programs, now prominent members of dozens of political parties, and local NGOs and civil society organizations. Many are running as candidates in 2024, having been taught campaigning and voter engagement strategies and to challenge results by the Endowment.

One of IRI�s �emerging leaders� was recorded as �carrying out internal party reform in his party� and �always appearing� prominently in its ranks. He was recently trained in launching legal disputes over the forthcoming election�s results, which �resulted in his being trusted as a candidate� by the party.

Another boasted to his IRI handlers that he �continues to socialize himself to the public regarding his candidacy either in person or through social media� and had recently appeared on popular radio and T.V. shows. He credited training provided by the NED-funded Association for Election and Democracy (Perludem) for �his personal branding development in politics� and ability to �serve as public speaker and engage with media.�

Perludem publishes regular US AID-financed journals, which �provide recommendations and references for improving electoral governance and democratic and political processes in the Asia and Pacific region.� It also convenes regular Emerging Leader Academy (ELA) events, where the individuals named in the IRI documents are groomed and learn �message development,� among other electioneering skills.

One graduate told IRI she had �started to share and disseminate information regarding her plans to run as a legislative candidate� and was �now increasingly active on social media.� With �tools she received from ELA, she hopes to attract more young voters, especially first-time voters.� Another was reported to have �again strengthened his role in the party�s internal body� and be personally �training prospective witnesses at polling stations� to monitor proceedings on election day.

Right down to the school level, youth political engagement was of evident significance to IRI and its cadre of political operatives. Accordingly, on July 1, Perdulem hosted an event, Make Election Great Again!, where attendees were taught the fine art of �identifying the strategic role of students in the 2024 election.�

IRI�s vote-meddling capabilities were significantly enhanced on July 12, when its operatives attended an event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies and Google. A panel featured two opposition politicians, journalists, and researchers, who warned �dis/misinformation� could affect the 2024 election and, terrifyingly, result in a similar figure to Widodo becoming President. A local polling expert presented data from a recent survey conducted by his firm on how trust in political parties impacts voter preferences.

One of the leak�s most tantalizing excerpts is in a briefing note from June 28 this year. It records how IRI representatives met with high-ranking members of the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, including its Political Officer, Ted Meinhover. He �conveyed U.S. concerns� about the 2024 elections, in particular how Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto�s �electability� had �increased dramatically,� meaning he �stood the highest according to the polls.� Meanwhile, former Jakarta Governor Anies Baswedan�s ratings were �on the decline.�

Meinhover lamented how Indonesian law restricts parties with less than 20% of seats in parliament from fielding Presidential candidates. If that �threshold� were removed, �there will be more candidates in the election, and the U.S. will have more options,� he declared. Still, Washington �needs to maintain friendly relations with all parties to safeguard U.S. interests in Indonesia, no matter how the election plays out.�

Meinhover added the Embassy had �been active in outreaching� leaders of the local Labor party and Indonesia�s Trade Union Confederation �to know about their plans to protest� a law on job creation recently signed by Widodo. Fearing the legislation will �dampen foreign investor enthusiasm� in the country, �the U.S. firmly supports activities opposed to it.�

Accordingly, the Embassy secretly suggested to Labor party chiefs they could exploit �the opportunity� of Indonesia�s Independence Day on August 17 �to launch protests� against the job creation law and Meinhover�s hated �Presidential Threshold.� Strikingly, a U.S. diplomatic apparatchik present mentioned Jakarta�s State Intelligence Agency (BIN) had �recently warned� the Embassy �not to interfere� in the 2024 elections.

Meinhover said this had motivated the Embassy to �continuously support� IRI�s cloak-and-dagger activities to �further implement U.S. policies while avoiding Indonesian regulations.� So it was, a July 8 � 14 briefing noted, the Institute contacted Labor party leaders and a welter of Indonesian labor organizations � to which IRI �continuously provide small grants� � and discussed �plans to organize protests� against the job creation and Presidential threshold laws �in late July or early August.�

Those protests went ahead on August 9 at Jakarta�s Constitutional Court and State Palace. Local media coverage of the events was duly recorded in an IRI briefing, which also noted that the Institute �provided a third grant� of 1,000,000 Rupiah to the Pandeglang Labor party�s executive chair for the effort. They reportedly �appreciated IRI�s support for their activities.� The briefing added, �The protests went well and [were] brought to a successful close.�

A week later, Institute staffers again provided �support� to the Labor Party�s Pandeglang chapter to �successfully� protest against the two laws. The executive chair received a further personal grant of 5,000,000 Rupiahs �for this achieved milestone.� While this amounts to $330, it can hardly be considered an insubstantial sum in local terms, given that 50% of Indonesia�s population earns less than $800 monthly.

Other briefings indicate several Indonesian organizations and individuals receive direct payments from IRI for achieving specific �milestones,� Perludem among them. In a perverse irony, the February 2021 edition of the organization�s journal featured essays on topics including �political financing and its impact on the quality of democracy,�; �the urgency of preventing illicit political party fundraising,�; �a disproportionately unequal playing field: challenges to and prospects for campaign finance law�; and �accountability and transparency of political party financing� across Asia Pacific.

Eighteen months later, Perludem launched an app helping Indonesians �understand how electoral boundaries are drawn� and allowing users to �create their own versions of boundary delimitation or drawing/redrawing of electoral districts as they deem appropriate by universal standards and principles.� Who or what funded this seditious venture wasn�t stated.

...

It�s also worth noting that the Endowment�s outlay in Indonesia is relatively modest. One weekly briefing even mentions how budgets �across IRI�s three projects� in the country �are tight for the foreseeable future.� The Institute�s Indonesian party leader training operation aside, the nature of the two other ventures is unclear from the leaked documents. But, according to figures published on NED�s website, the organization spends less than $2 million in Jakarta annually.

Usually, the sums involved are vastly higher. For example, over the 12 months leading up to Ukraine�s 2014 Maidan Revolution, NED pumped around $20 million into the country. Still, Western journalists, politicians, and pundits aggressively rubbished all suggestions that insurrectionary upheaval was anything other than an expression of popular will, resulting from surging yearning for liberalism and democracy by the overwhelming majority of citizens. They have done so ever since.

...

The papers amply show individuals and organizations on the ground anywhere can be stirred to activism at the local U.S. Embassy or Endowment chapter�s express behest at any time in return for even a small �grant.�

It is wholly inconceivable Indonesian labor groups would otherwise have protested Widodo�s job creation law or restrictions on how many Presidential candidates can run were it not for the former potentially harming Western investors and financial interests in Jakarta and the latter limiting Washington�s choice of puppets in the country. How many other anti-government agitators around the world, be they protesters, trade unionists, journalists, or otherwise, are similarly acting to �achieve milestones� agreed in secret with NED is anyone�s guess.

From Washington�s perspective, the importance of ensuring a pliant government is installed in Indonesia cannot be understated. With U.S. military chiefs openly discussing war with China in the very near future, the region must be populated with client states that can aid and abet that world-threatening effort. Similar initiatives are undoubtedly underway across the entire Asia Pacific. As such, it has never been more critical that NED�s activities everywhere are scrutinized, if not outright banned.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:30

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

the article makes explicit mention of the International Republican Institute, which I've posted about previously regarding its links to the Liberal Party of the Philippines.

also, take note that one of Jokowi's "independent foreign policy" moves not mentioned in the article was his order to the government to ditch the use of Visa and Mastercard in March of this year, presumably to avoid the weaponization of it as an economic sanction in the wake of what was done to and against Russia

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:35

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Sounds like the doc was leaked by the Indonesian intelligence. What's the early candidates polling and which guy is NED backing?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 06:54

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

stephenthinkpad posted:

Sounds like the doc was leaked by the Indonesian intelligence. What's the early candidates polling and which guy is NED backing?

current defense minister is popular:

quote:

One of the leak�s most tantalizing excerpts is in a briefing note from June 28 this year. It records how IRI representatives met with high-ranking members of the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, including its Political Officer, Ted Meinhover. He �conveyed U.S. concerns� about the 2024 elections, in particular how Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto�s �electability� had �increased dramatically,� meaning he �stood the highest according to the polls.� Meanwhile, former Jakarta Governor Anies Baswedan�s ratings were �on the decline.�

not sure if NED supports any particular Baswedan that strongly, it might be that they just want anyone but Subianto.

quote:

Meinhover lamented how Indonesian law restricts parties with less than 20% of seats in parliament from fielding Presidential candidates. If that �threshold� were removed, �there will be more candidates in the election, and the U.S. will have more options,� he declared. Still, Washington �needs to maintain friendly relations with all parties to safeguard U.S. interests in Indonesia, no matter how the election plays out.�

seems like they've got a whole stable of guys ready to go

quote:

Every week, IRI reported its �outreach� to �emerging leaders� in the country � graduates of NED training programs, now prominent members of dozens of political parties, and local NGOs and civil society organizations. Many are running as candidates in 2024, having been taught campaigning and voter engagement strategies and to challenge results by the Endowment.

One of IRI�s �emerging leaders� was recorded as �carrying out internal party reform in his party� and �always appearing� prominently in its ranks. He was recently trained in launching legal disputes over the forthcoming election�s results, which �resulted in his being trusted as a candidate� by the party.

Another boasted to his IRI handlers that he �continues to socialize himself to the public regarding his candidacy either in person or through social media� and had recently appeared on popular radio and T.V. shows. He credited training provided by the NED-funded Association for Election and Democracy (Perludem) for �his personal branding development in politics� and ability to �serve as public speaker and engage with media.�

Perludem publishes regular US AID-financed journals, which �provide recommendations and references for improving electoral governance and democratic and political processes in the Asia and Pacific region.� It also convenes regular Emerging Leader Academy (ELA) events, where the individuals named in the IRI documents are groomed and learn �message development,� among other electioneering skills.

One graduate told IRI she had �started to share and disseminate information regarding her plans to run as a legislative candidate� and was �now increasingly active on social media.� With �tools she received from ELA, she hopes to attract more young voters, especially first-time voters.� Another was reported to have �again strengthened his role in the party�s internal body� and be personally �training prospective witnesses at polling stations� to monitor proceedings on election day.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 07:06

Mandoric: Mar 15, 2003

crepeface posted:

current defense minister is popular:

Isn't he the guy they just tried to ratfuck with a fake joint statement, too?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 07:10

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

imagine creating something that will almost immediately become a global cultural and historical touchstone, and also contribute a significant amount to your country's economy... 4000 years from now

and then someone uses your creation as an example of a bad investment

# ? Sep 8, 2023 07:14

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

It makes sense, Indonesia is China friendly and a big partner in BRI and Chinese HSR.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 07:15

corona familiar: Aug 13, 2021

indigi posted:

imagine creating something that will almost immediately become a global cultural and historical touchstone, and also contribute a significant amount to your country's economy... 4000 years from now

and then someone uses your creation as an example of a bad investment

that's 16,000 quarters! think of the opportunity cost!

# ? Sep 8, 2023 07:16

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

did china really ban the iphone? i just caught the news on MSNBC

# ? Sep 8, 2023 11:55

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Al-Saqr posted:

did china really ban the iphone? i just caught the news on MSNBC

... for government offices. It's sort of the same thing that the US tries (tried?) to do with TikTok where they banned the app from government-issued phones, because it's easy to demand such provisions within the purview of specifically the government

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:21

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

To be fair if you're in China why wouldn't you just use a superior Huawei phone anyway?

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:23

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

at my company they don�t even let us install the beta versions of our own apps on our company issued phones

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:25

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 27, 2024 14:55

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

DancingShade posted:

To be fair if you're in China why wouldn't you just use a superior Huawei phone anyway?

Because you can't ~~reason with~~ deprogram iPhone users....tell that to my wife.

# ? Sep 8, 2023 12:33

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > C-SPAM > [Asia/Oceania] Yellen says she hopes China wont mount retaliation against any steps Washington takes

«‹›3005 »