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PoundSand posted:Legit psycho poo poo, feels so abnormally off the wall that someone recording this happening and uploading it to social media could go viral. Managers do a lot of incredibly dumb power trippy poo poo but this is diagnostically insane. I really do think he could catch a few diagnoses. And it’s been getting increasingly worse over the last year or so. Which I think is directly responsible for why our numbers have gotten worse, but good god ask him to micromanage less and he’ll go apeshit. Last time he ended up basically yelling that he is the best there has ever been at his job and threatened three time a day meetings at 10am, 6pm and 2am to go over every shift’s numbers. I will be surprised if those meetings don’t start in the next month. I hope I don’t see it. Also his brother is his boss’s boss so he’s not going anywhere. Like, he got where he did on “merit,” not that connection because his brother wasn’t there when he got hired, but now I don’t see any way he leaves. Except maybe after everyone good quits and he wants to go find the next plant to ruin. Bondematt posted:Is this a crime? This should be a crime. Part of me wants to send it to some higher up people but I know it will just make my life much worse. I’m undecided on whether to do an exit interview and just unload on the poor HR person or not. Also it’s not just emails. If anyone has forgotten to reply “understood” (it MUST be “understood,” no variation like “ok” or “got it” is acceptable) to any of his WhatsApp screeds that’s his chance to go through the list with everyone on the call and make you go do it.
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Sep 8, 2023 05:00
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Yeah, while that's legitimately infuriating, I'd be more inclined to speculate about his mental health at that point.
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Sep 8, 2023 10:37
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Does he care what the replies are or just that the reply flag is there? Does he even care if they're replies to him? Please reply to them all changing the recipient to yourself - auto filtering those into a junk folder or something to hide them away - and see if he notices. Science needs answers.
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Sep 8, 2023 11:24
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Our intranet homepage - that you cannot avoid when opening a new browser window or a new tab because changing it is locked down - currently has a big banner reminding everyone that the 10th is World Suicide Prevention Day. So I guess that's how things are going...
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Sep 8, 2023 13:03
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BiggerBoat posted:They absolutely are, in addition to many of them but even being real jobs but poo poo more akin to MLM's. I got scores of replies from companies telling me I'd make a great salesperson and "team leader", even though my resume is nothing but illustration, graphic design and printing work. That's because if you have any skill at anything whatsoever, you an easily learn what it takes to sell things to people, most sales jobs are easy and most salespeople are absolutely terrible at it
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Sep 8, 2023 13:41
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I feel like it takes a special kind of sociopath to be good at sales, like it's definitely not something just anyone can be good at.
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Sep 8, 2023 13:50
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Biplane posted:I feel like it takes a special kind of sociopath to be good at sales, like it's definitely not something just anyone can be good at. That's just what sociopaths who work in sales want you to think
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Sep 8, 2023 13:53
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Scientastic posted:That's because if you have any skill at anything whatsoever, you an easily learn what it takes to sell things to people, most sales jobs are easy and most salespeople are absolutely terrible at it sales owns, you just promise impossible solutions to impossibly stupid applications and when it falls through its the engineers fault while you're busy carrying your bags of money to the bank
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Sep 8, 2023 13:54
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blatman posted:sales owns, you just promise impossible solutions to impossibly stupid applications and when it falls through its the engineers fault while you're busy carrying your bags of money to the bank So what you're saying is that I can make disturbing amounts of money as long as I have no regard for human life or the well-being of others? Hmmmm.
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Sep 8, 2023 14:01
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Biplane posted:I feel like it takes a special kind of sociopath to be good at sales, like it's definitely not something just anyone can be good at. I did call center sales (probably doesn't count but meh) right after high school for a pretty reputable US food company. It was a mix of people who were there to sort of "skate by" with the minimum, or the ridiculous, overblown, way-too-energetic coke addict personalities that tried shoveling anything they could at customers. My breaking point was having my bitchy manager shadow a call while sitting next to me, I called this sweet old lady & she couldn't afford our food any more because her husband passed & she was on a fixed income now. I apologized, gave my condolences & ended the call - my manager then had the loving gall to ask incredulously "why didn't you try selling her something cheaper???" Walked the next day without giving notice because gently caress taking advantage of people like that. Just felt super scummy & ghoulish.
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Sep 8, 2023 14:15
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BOOTY-ADE posted:I did call center sales (probably doesn't count but meh) right after high school for a pretty reputable US food company. It was a mix of people who were there to sort of "skate by" with the minimum, or the ridiculous, overblown, way-too-energetic coke addict personalities that tried shoveling anything they could at customers. My breaking point was having my bitchy manager shadow a call while sitting next to me, I called this sweet old lady & she couldn't afford our food any more because her husband passed & she was on a fixed income now. I apologized, gave my condolences & ended the call - my manager then had the loving gall to ask incredulously "why didn't you try selling her something cheaper???" Almost literally my experience with call center sales lol, except we were hocking iPhones to seniors, not food.
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Sep 8, 2023 14:18
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Ravus Ursus posted:So what you're saying is that I can make disturbing amounts of money as long as I have no regard for human life or the well-being of others? i regret to inform you that that's always been the case
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Sep 8, 2023 14:27
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In fact, that is precisely how you make disturbing amounts of money.
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Sep 8, 2023 15:03
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Ravus Ursus posted:So what you're saying is that I can make disturbing amounts of money as long as I have no regard for human life or the well-being of others? If you want to maximize your amoral profits, become a sales engineer. All the lies and over promising of generic sales, but with the added bonus of using word vomit technobabble that convinces managers and raises every red flag possible for the people who will be tasked with actually using the piece of poo poo software you're foisting on them.
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Sep 8, 2023 15:07
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Can I instead make a living wage with my morals uncompromised doing work that keeps me away from people?
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Sep 8, 2023 15:19
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Ravus Ursus posted:Can I instead make a living wage with my morals uncompromised doing work that keeps me away from people? If you figure this out please let me know
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Sep 8, 2023 15:23
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Ravus Ursus posted:Can I instead make a living wage with my morals uncompromised doing work that keeps me away from people? The forest service doesn't hire often.
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Sep 8, 2023 15:29
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Ravus Ursus posted:Can I instead make a living wage with my morals uncompromised doing work that keeps me away from people? 01. Money 02. Morals 03. Sanity Pick two.
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Sep 8, 2023 15:38
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Two is a luxury.
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Sep 8, 2023 15:42
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ethics cost more than rent and rent is too dang high
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Sep 8, 2023 16:50
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I'm being legit stalked by a B2B sales psycho right now and I keep trying to tell him I don't have any say in budget and he keeps trying to force me to arrange meetings with the people who do, and he won't take no for an answer. He's offered me like $5k in free poo poo (training, meals out, travel) as well, but no such thing as a free lunch etc.
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Sep 8, 2023 17:50
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cynic posted:I'm being legit stalked by a B2B sales psycho right now and I keep trying to tell him I don't have any say in budget and he keeps trying to force me to arrange meetings with the people who do, and he won't take no for an answer. He's offered me like $5k in free poo poo (training, meals out, travel) as well, but no such thing as a free lunch etc. Tell him you've set up a meeting, give him details, then hang up. He will eventually get the point when he keeps trying to go to meetings with no one present. "Sorry, I asked but I guess they were busy"
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Sep 8, 2023 17:58
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Tell him the other company got you a rolex and some quality blow.
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Sep 8, 2023 18:11
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Tell him to give you $5k straight up, then never talk to him again.
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Sep 8, 2023 18:14
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goatface posted:Tell him the other company got you a rolex and some quality blow. My wife used to work in corporate sales and pretty sure the quality blow is not a problem. Only problem is I like my job, and actually have good management right up to c-suite here so this guy turns from a potential free meal into 100% irritation who is just trying to sound out how much it will cost to make me torpedo my career to advance his.
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Sep 8, 2023 18:35
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I would simply say "SOX" and end any medium of conversation any time I was contacted.
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Sep 8, 2023 18:49
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Biplane posted:If you figure this out please let me know Same
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Sep 8, 2023 20:09
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:The forest service doesn't hire often. They had a huge hiring frenzy at I think the start of this year, or maybe last year. Except they would not accept anyone with less than a Master's in Forestry 
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Sep 8, 2023 20:14
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Forklift driver and crane operator are in high demand. The mobile container cranes at the port are my favorite.
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Sep 8, 2023 23:46
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cynic posted:I'm being legit stalked by a B2B sales psycho right now and I keep trying to tell him I don't have any say in budget and he keeps trying to force me to arrange meetings with the people who do, and he won't take no for an answer. He's offered me like $5k in free poo poo (training, meals out, travel) as well, but no such thing as a free lunch etc. Welcome to the club. Police won't do anything about this. I get e and in-person stalked by textbook publishers and laboratory supply reps.
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Sep 8, 2023 23:54
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Agree to a meeting with them and then violently poo poo yourself while in the meeting, maintaining eye contact the entire time and pretending nothing is wrong.
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Sep 9, 2023 00:02
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History Comes Inside! posted:Agree to a meeting with them and then violently poo poo yourself while in the meeting, maintaining eye contact the entire time and pretending nothing is wrong. What if they’ve already beaten OP to the punch?
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Sep 9, 2023 00:14
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Then you buy whatever they’re selling, because they have already won.
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Sep 9, 2023 00:15
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Agree to meet up with him and then beat him to death. Plea temporary insanity and cite your posts. You should be able to plea your way from Murder 2 to Manslaughter, and thats only 2-5 years for first time offenses, so you should be golden.
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Sep 9, 2023 00:21
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Agree to meet, but only at neutral sites like restaurants and never show. Keep doing this to let him get more and more unhinged, then finally agree to a meeting at your office, but never tell the people she's supposed to be meeting or security. It'll solve itself. Or just start responding to his emails with lorem ipsum and communicate on his phone calls exclusively with kazoo.
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Sep 9, 2023 01:27
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Or stop gate keeping and put the sales rep in touch with the real decision maker so it’s their problem to deal with because they actually have a say in the buying process. People with no say in the purchasing process slowing down the sales cycle is hilarious but counter productive. Once the sales rep realizes there’s no opportunity they will move on. Stop slowing that down.
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Sep 9, 2023 01:49
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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:Or stop gate keeping and put the sales rep in touch with the real decision maker so it’s their problem to deal with because they actually have a say in the buying process. People with no say in the purchasing process slowing down the sales cycle is hilarious but counter productive. Once the sales rep realizes there’s no opportunity they will move on. Stop slowing that down. sales rep spotted
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Sep 9, 2023 02:05
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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:Or stop gate keeping and put the sales rep in touch with the real decision maker so it’s their problem to deal with because they actually have a say in the buying process. People with no say in the purchasing process slowing down the sales cycle is hilarious but counter productive. Once the sales rep realizes there’s no opportunity they will move on. Stop slowing that down. No, the sales people will provide tribute if they want access. This dragon horde isn't going to accumulate itself.
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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:Or stop gate keeping and put the sales rep in touch with the real decision maker so it’s their problem to deal with because they actually have a say in the buying process. People with no say in the purchasing process slowing down the sales cycle is hilarious but counter productive. Once the sales rep realizes there’s no opportunity they will move on. Stop slowing that down. Only do this if you hate the person with actual purchasing power that you fob them off to.
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