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Watching again and I noticed the damage Garp does to Marry isn't fixed. Establishing that the crew does not have someone with the skill set need to maintain their ship....
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They have someone who can cobble together temporary fixes though. I don't recall the manga having Usopp working in a shipyard at all, so if not, nice to see they added that detail here to explain why he has any carpentry skill at all.
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Sep 8, 2023 08:20
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Unfortunately, he's a poo poo and barnacle technician, not a shipwright.
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Sep 8, 2023 23:01
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Hope we get an extremely lovely patch for it in season 2
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Sep 8, 2023 23:20
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I Am Fowl posted:Unfortunately, he's a poo poo and barnacle technician, not a shipwright. Exactly. He fixes the Going Merry like someone who has watched a shipwright work while cleaning poop. Or like how I would fix a ship after watching a YouTube tutorial.
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Sep 9, 2023 00:02
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side_burned posted:Watching again and I noticed the damage Garp does to Marry isn't fixed. Establishing that the crew does not have someone with the skill set need to maintain their ship.... is this a thing that matters in the One Piece universe? Because I'm pretty sure they don't even have enough people to man the ship if they're gonna get at all technical about it.
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Sep 9, 2023 00:31
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It matters for the merry specifically. It's a member of the crew.
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Sep 9, 2023 00:41
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Phenotype posted:is this a thing that matters in the One Piece universe? Because I'm pretty sure they don't even have enough people to man the ship if they're gonna get at all technical about it.
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Sep 9, 2023 00:47
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God imagine if it got far enough for it to matter
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Phenotype posted:is this a thing that matters in the One Piece universe? Because I'm pretty sure they don't even have enough people to man the ship if they're gonna get at all technical about it. One Piece Manga spoilers: I got like, a full flashback from this. I was back there, crying.
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Phenotype posted:is this a thing that matters in the One Piece universe? Because I'm pretty sure they don't even have enough people to man the ship if they're gonna get at all technical about it. Generally speaking, for this thread in particular, if people are mentioning a particular bit of foreshadowing, it's a pretty safe bet that it's going to be a very important plot point way down the line (though there's a high chance that it's a point that the live-action is unlikely to ever reach).
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Sep 10, 2023 12:03
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Yeah, it'd need to get to maybe season 4 in order to reach that particular plot point, even if the live action show covered one major Grand Line arc per season.
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Sep 10, 2023 15:03
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I'm enjoying the show, though after episode 5, I believe people in One Piece don't understand unconsciousness. It's like the opposite of CollegeHumor Batman not understanding death.
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Sep 10, 2023 20:19
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Maybe it works differently in the OP universe
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RE: Fish eye lense I found myself appreciating it more often than not. When they do a fish eye closeup of a strawhat pirate, it convincingly conveys a sense of cartoon portrait to them for me. But also I appreciated when I think they used it in a brief scene of Nami running toward the camera near the end there. I was thinking if they didn't do it the way they did, she would necessarily look slow. Seemed like a smart way to make her look like she was going cartoonish quickly naturally.
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Sep 11, 2023 05:37
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Someone crashed into my car today and totaled it and at the moment of the crash I was listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flysqk6WfQE
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CelticPredator posted:Someone crashed into my car today and totaled it and at the moment of the crash I was listening to this drat, hope you’re okay! The brand synergy they have right now is on point. This show got me to buy One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 since they had a sale going for it, and both of them have me thinking about rereading some select chapters. Not crazy enough to do a full reread cause it is looooong, but maybe some favorites.
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Sep 11, 2023 16:14
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plowed through this show yesterday it rocks
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Sep 11, 2023 18:52
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I haven't watched episode 8 yet but I have to ask, am I missing something with this fishman racism plot? The guys speaking up against racism are all portrayed as ruthless gangsters who want to enslave the world in retribution and are accompanied by hiphop beats every time they're on-screen?
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deep dish peat moss posted:I haven't watched episode 8 yet but I have to ask, am I missing something with this fishman racism plot? The guys speaking up against racism are all portrayed as ruthless gangsters who want to enslave the world in retribution and are accompanied by hiphop beats every time they're on-screen? Hard to answer without spoilers, even if episode 8, but yeah, it goes waaaaaay deeper later in the series. Like super later, though.
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deep dish peat moss posted:I haven't watched episode 8 yet but I have to ask, am I missing something with this fishman racism plot? The guys speaking up against racism are all portrayed as ruthless gangsters who want to enslave the world in retribution and are accompanied by hiphop beats every time they're on-screen? Yes, the fish men shown in Arlong Park are pirates that are bad people, and they are also victims of racism. There are fish men elsewhere in the world who are just normal people living their lives and there are also fish men who are heroes. It is explored very much in depth several times later on in the plot, but I'd be shocked if we get that far with Netflix seasons because the budget would have to be insane because of the special effects needed.
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Sep 11, 2023 21:40
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In the anime Arlong talks mostly about how fishmen are better than humans. It's clear that humans mistreat fishmen but Arlong doesn't lean on it as a justification like he does in the live action. The live action comes a little too close to a reverse racism theme that's not as present in the anime/manga (at least in this arc, I haven't seen the whole thing). It's one of the very small number of problems with the show.
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The writers of the show definitely have seen up through the recent arcs from the manga. They’ve integrated some stuff that makes a bit more sense knowing more about the fishmen’s history. They may have wanted to explore further in this version, but time constraints on the episodes probably prevented them from it.
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HPanda posted:The writers of the show definitely have seen up through the recent arcs from the manga. They’ve integrated some stuff that makes a bit more sense knowing more about the fishmen’s history. They may have wanted to explore further in this version, but time constraints on the episodes probably prevented them from it. It's this. I honestly really like that they did stuff like that and integrated stuff we learn later but Oda maybe hadn't come up with originally. It fleshes everything out nicely.
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Sep 11, 2023 23:38
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But I can definitely see how it looks weirder to someone unfamiliar with future events.
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Yeah it technically makes the world more cohesive but it might have honestly been a mistake to mention the Fishmen slavery plot point this early because it comes off way different when there are no sympathetic fishmen characters yet.
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Yeah, that makes sense. Glad to hear it's not as bad as it appears from episode 7, but it does seem a little odd in today's political climate to include that as a first look at that part of the world in a version of the series that isn't guaranteed to see the resolution of it.
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Sep 12, 2023 01:22
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the comic hasn't really resolved it either. it's just addressed it MORE.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Yeah, that makes sense. Glad to hear it's not as bad as it appears from episode 7, but it does seem a little odd to include as a first look at that part of the world in a version of the series that isn't guaranteed to see the resolution of it in today's political climate. Clearly the intent, and the way it plays in the original story is "here are some monsters... or are they? Ten years later you'll discover they're victims of heinous oppression, and their malevolence did not come from nowhere." But when you give just enough of their backstory to touch on that sympathy, but not enough to let us understand the oppression, it comes off dangerously close to, "these people who complain about imagined oppression are actually cruel hypocritical monsters." That is an issue considering the chances of actually getting to the proper Fishman story is vanishingly small. At this point in the manga/anime we did just think they were basically just monsters. There wasn't really any nuance until much later.
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"Local law enforcement" in OP basically only ever amounts to a local militia, or the army of a reigning kingdom, the latter of which do exist in East Blue but aren't really relevant until later on; they visit a few on the Grand Line. The Marines are basically worldwide seacops though, yeah. Most of the OP world is ocean, so the only armed forces the World Government employ (openly, at least) are the Marines.
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My very first SA avatar was buggy the clown, and I wore him proudly for years even before he came back years later in the story to be cumulatively increasingly awesome with every appearance Buggy is my favorite non-strawhat even now
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Also worth saying, not in the least as a girl often in despair, the scene where Nami asks Luffy to help her is really beautiful. Both actors knock it out of the park, and also god drat, what a cool thing that I surely must take for granted in media if it surprised me so much: someone in a genuinely desperate situation asks point blank for help and then someone else says, hell yeah. No ego, no questions asked. Possibly this is a credit to Luffy as a character, I guess. There's nothing cloying or condescending about it. Hard to describe why I liked it so much, but it really moved me.
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There are indeed normal police officers in the One Piece world but we get no elaboration on them beyond the fact that a future character was once one.Doc Fission posted:
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Doc Fission posted:Also worth saying, not in the least as a girl often in despair, the scene where Nami asks Luffy to help her is really beautiful. Both actors knock it out of the park, and also god drat, what a cool thing that I surely must take for granted in media if it surprised me so much: someone in a genuinely desperate situation asks point blank for help and then someone else says, hell yeah. No ego, no questions asked. Possibly this is a credit to Luffy as a character, I guess. There's nothing cloying or condescending about it. Hard to describe why I liked it so much, but it really moved me. It's basically the ultimate Luffy Moment early on, the thing that immediately illustrates his character and how he works. One of the most moving early moments in every version of the story and I'm glad it resonated just as well with you as it did with me who knew it was coming. It's really excellent stuff.
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deep dish peat moss posted:I haven't watched episode 8 yet but I have to ask, am I missing something with this fishman racism plot? The guys speaking up against racism are all portrayed as ruthless gangsters who want to enslave the world in retribution and are accompanied by hiphop beats every time they're on-screen? lmfao its so funny and no, the later parts of the story do not make this choice any less weird
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Captain Invictus posted:My very first SA avatar was buggy the clown, and I wore him proudly for years even before he came back years later in the story to be cumulatively increasingly awesome with every appearance I'd agree except for one other character: (manga/anime spoilers) Bon Clay/Mr. 2 exists and they're the most clutch friend in the world and they rule.
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The Luffy/Nami scene is definitely one of the most emotional in the anime/manga. I think the other two of my top 3 for the entire series would be the end of Alabaster and Robin at Ennies Lobby. One Piece hits hard sometimes.
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SpartanIvy posted:The Luffy/Nami scene is definitely one of the most emotional. I think the other two of my top 3 would be the end of Alabaster and Robin at Ennies Lobby. One Piece hits hard sometimes. I'm up to date on the manga but just as a note for those who aren't, this post is about the manga/anime and not Top 3 moments of this season.
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Doc Fission posted:Also worth saying, not in the least as a girl often in despair, the scene where Nami asks Luffy to help her is really beautiful. Both actors knock it out of the park, and also god drat, what a cool thing that I surely must take for granted in media if it surprised me so much: someone in a genuinely desperate situation asks point blank for help and then someone else says, hell yeah. No ego, no questions asked. Possibly this is a credit to Luffy as a character, I guess. There's nothing cloying or condescending about it. Hard to describe why I liked it so much, but it really moved me.
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