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Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

muscles like this! posted:

It wasn't until the DVD era that everything for home release was priced for consumers. I worked at video rental store in 98-99 and even then there were a lot of movies that were in the $80 range.

Notably, this change did not happen everyone else at the same time it did in the US. There was a big thing for a few years where Japanese anime fans would reimport American DVDs because they'd be priced so much cheaper.

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Mar 27, 2007

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Schwarzwald posted:

Notably, this change did not happen everyone else at the same time it did in the US. There was a big thing for a few years where Japanese anime fans would reimport American DVDs because they'd be priced so much cheaper.

This is arguably more of a thing now that the US and Japan share the same blu-ray region code. There have definitely been some "this collection of Japanese TV is sabotaged in a US release" events. The first legit Kamen Rider release was made of... TV broadcast editions of the show (vs home video) and hard-subs. Makes sense when you realize it was a $60 US box set which was competing with $300+ worth of multiple-package releases in its home country.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Some VHS tapes were priced for sale, but 99% of the initial wave was priced for rental (the famous $89 tapes). Source: video store clerk in the mid to late 90s.

It's really weird to me now that digital versions come out to own before they come out to rent! That seems exactly backwards.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
DVDs being priced for consumers was frigging brilliant, just cut out the loving Blockbuster middleman.

The amount of money in the system unlocked a real golden age of Interesting poo poo for home release, as even niche stuff could be quite profitable. Very similar to how nice multiplexes unlocked a lot of Interesting poo poo for theatrical release in the early 90's.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
You actually should want a middleman. Vertical integration is bad.

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

You actually should want a middleman. Vertical integration is bad.

True, but Blockbuster sucked. I should know I worked there a million years ago. During the dark times of "Blockbuster Online" and I think right around when they partnered with Direct TV but that might have been after I left for Hollywood Video.

Hollywood Video was great for library selection. It's how I saw stuff like "Man Bites Dog" and probably several other Criterion releases that Blockbuster wouldn't carry for dumb reasons. And you could rent Troma movies from Hollywood which Blockbuster didn't carry because they were weird Mormons.

I seem to remember Kauffman had a rant about Blockbuster in one of his books that was pretty hilarious and extremely vitriolic.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Blockbuster, and both local chains we had growing up didn’t have porn. So a curtained off adults only section is something I only heard about elsewhere.

One of the chains still has one location open. They have tanning beds as a sideline.

Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Sep 7, 2023

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Yeah, our small town got to vote if Family Video had the porn section or not, and the bunch of old fuddy-duddies said no. Not that I would have ever gone in because I would have been too embarrassed about someone seeing me even after I was 18 because small town. But I would have appreciated the forbidden allure.

At least they had an eccentric collection outside of that. Plus anything more than a decade or so old was 50 cents a piece and you could rent 10 at once. So I just did that a few times a week in the summers and watched a massive amount of lovely trash from 13-18.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Closest I saw was Blockbuster had warning stickers on Akira and La Femme Nikita. Probably some other stuff I can’t remember. The former you could plausibly accidentally rent for a kid.

One of the rental places has been many things over the years. Gateway store, Cellular One, shoe store, and now it’s an Adam & Eve. I didn’t know they even had physics locations so suddenly realizing there’s a dildo store across the road from Target was a bit surprising.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

A couple of mom and pop video stores I went to had the adults only curtain section, one even had a whole basement dedicated to xxx titles.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
When the Hollywood Videos went out of business I went and bought as much of the criterion and classic movies I could grab, I have a binder with like 60 dvds in it in a box somewhere.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
The only video store near me that had porn was a mom n pop (it was actually just a sweet grandma that ran it) and they had like 4 or 5 adult videos that were behind the counter and you had to ask for them specifically. There was one guy that always came in and rented them and he'd ham it up, like "let's see, I believe today I'll watch... angels with sticky faces."

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

it’s a semenal classic

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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ruddiger posted:

it’s a semenal classic

How long you been waiting to bust that one out

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Francis Ford Coppola and Timur Bekmambetov. "
what a timeline

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
At State College was Mike's Videos, three locations within five square blocks so you never had to walk too far to rent a movie after getting high.

They also did huge used CD and VHS/DVD sales with students liquidating collections instead of packing them up.

My freshman year they started doing red sticker 95 cent rentals, my sophomore year they had leveraged the discounted rental prices to drive all the competition out of business, right before my junior year they had ramped the red sticker price to $3 and started screaming bloody hell about small businesses when Hollywood video opened a location by the summer of the following year.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Corman was (still alive but mostly retired) a master of the craft and probably the best eye for talent in Hollywood history.

He was notourious for having an ironclad rule to the directors he hired "Do whatever the gently caress you want, just deliver on time and under budget."

Yeah, I can't remember who was talking about it, but it, could of been RLM doing one of his movies, but they talk about how it -a sci-fi film, maybe Battle beyond the stars?- starts with a really pretty decent matt painting shot of a star base or what ever, than goes into the cheap interior, but because the matt shot was first it's already sold you on the location so the quality of interior doesn't pull you out of it. He knew where to spend money and where you could get away with being cheaper. Unlike some directors who get like $100 million dollar budget and your just left wondering where the gently caress the money all went.

Also another thing I recall he'd do, is getting a really decent composer in who had just done a really good score for a similar genre, film. But just hiring them for a really short time, maybe a week, knowing that they'd make a very similar sounding copy, that sure wouldn't really time with scenes and wouldn't fit as well as proper score, but it would still sound legitimately good.

Just an amazingly talented guy.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

dr_rat posted:

Yeah, I can't remember who was talking about it, but it, could of been RLM doing one of his movies, but they talk about how it -a sci-fi film, maybe Battle beyond the stars?- starts with a really pretty decent matt painting shot of a star base or what ever, than goes into the cheap interior, but because the matt shot was first it's already sold you on the location so the quality of interior doesn't pull you out of it. He knew where to spend money and where you could get away with being cheaper. Unlike some directors who get like $100 million dollar budget and your just left wondering where the gently caress the money all went.

Also another thing I recall he'd do, is getting a really decent composer in who had just done a really good score for a similar genre, film. But just hiring them for a really short time, maybe a week, knowing that they'd make a very similar sounding copy, that sure wouldn't really time with scenes and wouldn't fit as well as proper score, but it would still sound legitimately good.

Just an amazingly talented guy.

Targets was one in particular that always stuck out to me. Bogdanovich made clever use of footage from a different movie by framing it as a movie that Boris Karloff's character was starring in, and Karloff himself was only in the movie because he owed Corman two days of work.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Schwarzwald posted:

Notably, this change did not happen everyone else at the same time it did in the US. There was a big thing for a few years where Japanese anime fans would reimport American DVDs because they'd be priced so much cheaper.

For a while it was cheaper for me to buy blurays from the US via eBay or from Amazon UK compared to where I live.

Alan Smithee posted:

what a timeline

When Timur made Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter (a spiritual remake of Young Mr Lincoln) he included a scene where a vampire throws a horse at Lincoln and Lincoln catches it safely. According to him, this shows that the vampire is evil while Lincoln is good.

I respect him for that.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

dr_rat posted:

Yeah, I can't remember who was talking about it, but it, could of been RLM doing one of his movies, but they talk about how it -a sci-fi film, maybe Battle beyond the stars?- starts with a really pretty decent matt painting shot of a star base or what ever, than goes into the cheap interior, but because the matt shot was first it's already sold you on the location so the quality of interior doesn't pull you out of it. He knew where to spend money and where you could get away with being cheaper. Unlike some directors who get like $100 million dollar budget and your just left wondering where the gently caress the money all went.

Reminds me of James Cameron working on Galaxy of Terror as both a favor to Corman and so he could learn the ins and outs of set design.

The result is an aesthetic that just bleeds all over his work on Terminator and Aliens.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Reminds me of James Cameron working on Galaxy of Terror as both a favor to Corman and so he could learn the ins and outs of set design.

The result is an aesthetic that just bleeds all over his work on Terminator and Aliens.

Which is where Cameron met Bill Paxton.

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

He was notourious for having an ironclad rule to the directors he hired "Do whatever the gently caress you want, just deliver on time and under budget."

His other rule was to include a pair of tits in the movie for the lads.

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

dr_rat posted:

Yeah, I can't remember who was talking about it, but it, could of been RLM doing one of his movies, but they talk about how it -a sci-fi film, maybe Battle beyond the stars?- starts with a really pretty decent matt painting shot of a star base or what ever, than goes into the cheap interior, but because the matt shot was first it's already sold you on the location so the quality of interior doesn't pull you out of it.
That was Space Raiders I believe.

That's the one where the score has suspicious similarities to the scores for Star Trek 2 and 3, and oh hey, it's the same composer! Huh.

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:
I like Mel Welles, a Corman regular who played iconic characters like Mr. Mushnik in Little Shop of Horrors and Digger Smolkin in The Undead.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/IndyArts/status/1699965996671422934?s=20

quote:

However, it was his leading role in Michael Mann’s 1983 war horror The Keep that he credits with being his “worst moviemaking experience”.

“Michael Mann said to me, ‘You’re playing this Romanian.’ So I went to Romania to scout it out, and I learned how to speak with a Romanian accent,” McKellen recalled in a new interview with Variety.

“Then on the first day of shooting, Michael told me he wanted me to speak with a Chicago accent. Well, I couldn’t do that, and it got worse from there.”
lmao

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

duz posted:

His other rule was to include a pair of tits in the movie for the lads.

And he was right, but with every year we stray further from this truth. Dong is also acceptable

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012


Lol

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.




I would have addumed it's the hobbit where he cried at having to act with nobody at a green screen but lmao at that

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Presto posted:

That was Space Raiders I believe.

That's the one where the score has suspicious similarities to the scores for Star Trek 2 and 3, and oh hey, it's the same composer! Huh.

It's Battle Beyond the Stars. The main overture shows up in Star Trek II almost verbatim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSgqMOKJho

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Ian McKellen sitting in a room by himself repeating “gonna get a sausage and a brat at da bears game” over and over

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

"We come to it at last, the great battle of our time" I say as I try to squeeze past everyone holding two beers and two brats going back to my seat

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
"Ian, I need you to do a Taiwanese accent for Heat 2"

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


He sounds dubbed in The Keep. The article didn’t go into it. I would recommend people watch the movie, and then go read the book. You’ll get some serious whiplash because you’ll suddenly understand what they were supposed to be going for. There’s little glimmers of genius in the movie, so it’s still worth seeing in spite of the mess it ended up as. Also there’s a cool Tangerine Dream soundtrack.

https://youtu.be/ZsWk2aGYvxM?si=cv-gRwnSbdNUr9PI

chibi luda
Apr 17, 2013

I legit lost my poo poo watching The Keep when they showed the full monster at the end. Power Rangers villain of the week looking rear end lmao

Honestly worth a watch for the vibes alone IMO

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
That movie is such a mess but I love it.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The Keep is like seeing the daily rushes of a really neat movie, like the material is clearly there but it’s just fragments.

Also the one time I saw it the sound mix was really weird, the dialogue was hard to hear.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Goth Odell Beckham posted:

I legit lost my poo poo watching The Keep when they showed the full monster at the end. Power Rangers villain of the week looking rear end lmao

Honestly worth a watch for the vibes alone IMO
He’s supposed to look like a golem. They kept going back and forth during filming with no idea what he should actually look like. They shot footage for him draining all the SS men, but then the special effects supervisor died suddenly and they didn’t know what his plan was. So it just cuts to him standing amidst a bunch of corpses I kind of don’t mind the look.

ynohtna
Feb 16, 2007

backwoods compatible
Illegal Hen

Maxwell Lord posted:

The Keep is like seeing the daily rushes of a really neat movie, like the material is clearly there but it’s just fragments.

Also the one time I saw it the sound mix was really weird, the dialogue was hard to hear.

Yeah. It’s a music video cosplaying as a film.

e: To be clear, I find a lot to like about The Keep, even though I always finish it feeling disappointed. Unlike, say, it's spiritual descendent, Mandy.

ynohtna fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Sep 9, 2023

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Casimir Radon posted:

He’s supposed to look like a golem. They kept going back and forth during filming with no idea what he should actually look like. They shot footage for him draining all the SS men, but then the special effects supervisor died suddenly and they didn’t know what his plan was. So it just cuts to him standing amidst a bunch of corpses I kind of don’t mind the look.

Was this the same rock monster from Star Trek V?

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

Timby posted:

It's Battle Beyond the Stars. The main overture shows up in Star Trek II almost verbatim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSgqMOKJho

Nope, it's Space Raiders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVijUWZwZo4&t=3055s

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Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

Maxwell Lord posted:


Also the one time I saw it the sound mix was really weird, the dialogue was hard to hear.

Sounds like a Michael Mann film!

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