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Danann posted:(from t.me/milinfolive/106207, via tgsa) Isn't this just the Harpy drones that china bought from Israel like a decade ago?
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Isn't this just the Harpy drones that china bought from Israel like a decade ago? Harpies don't make the lawnmower sound while Shaheds do iirc.
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The Oldest Man posted:Well also they can't even keep the cafeterias open at some of these bases so rip ironic because cook is like the second oldest job in the military
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500excf type r posted:ironic because cook is like the second oldest job in the military So you're saying it desperately needs disruptive innovation?
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The Oldest Man posted:Well also they can't even keep the cafeterias open at some of these bases so rip loving how some keeps painting a $1 trillion per year org as a helpless poor kid in his mom basement story
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Sep 10, 2023 01:55
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The US should surrender now so that we can save time getting to work on the next generation of hardware for WW4
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The Oldest Man posted:Should have called them defense helicopters Tactical counterattack helicopters 500excf type r posted:ironic because cook is like the second oldest job in the military What modern militaries need are independant app-based camp follower contractors
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Car Hater posted:The US should surrender now so that we can save time getting to work on the next generation of hardware for WW4 the fleet of exactly 1 "win everything" plane that costs $10 trillion
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Palladium posted:the fleet of exactly 1 "win everything" plane that costs $10 trillion Healthy young superpower goes to military industrial complex, gets pumped with massive shot of higher costs and lower fleet sizes, doesn’t feel good and changes – GUNDAM. Many such cases
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Speaking of the m1 being too fat, looks like sepv4 is cancelled because an eighty ton "mbt" is approaching joke status and they need to lighten it https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/army-axes-m1a2-sepv4-abrams-bets-big-on-next-gen-m1e3 Oh and also because they want to set money on fire making AbramsX happen
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mlmp08 posted:Also kind of hard for a TOW crew to rapidly move out of range, kick a round off at a fortification, then run away the way a vehicle with a cannon can. they used to just stick a TOW launcher on a jeep 
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Griz posted:they used to just stick a TOW launcher on a jeep Yes I know and they still do mount them on trucks and tripods. But you guide the TOW while it’s in flight. A cannon fires a faster round and you don’t have to sit and steer the cannon round mid-flight, so you can fire and then take cover very fast in contrast with an ATGM you guide in like a TOW or Konkurs.
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mlmp08 posted:Yes I know and they still do mount them on trucks and tripods. But you guide the TOW while it’s in flight. A cannon fires a faster round and you don’t have to sit and steer the cannon round mid-flight, so you can fire and then take cover very fast in contrast with an ATGM you guide in like a TOW or Konkurs. fire and forget missiles on vehicle platforms been around a while  quote:The FGM-148 Javelin, or Advanced Anti-Tank Weapon System-Medium (AAWS-M), is an American-made man-portable anti-tank system in service since 1996, and continuously upgraded. It replaced the M47 Dragon anti-tank missile in US service.[10] Its fire-and-forget design uses automatic infrared guidance that allows the user to seek cover immediately after launch, in contrast to wire-guided systems, like the system used by the Dragon, which require a user to guide the weapon throughout the engagement. The Javelin's high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead can defeat modern tanks by top attack, hitting them from above, where their armor is thinnest, and is also useful against fortifications in a direct attack flight. The real reason for an assault gun is all cost and logistical footprint per pound of HE on a target. Guided missile systems cost a lot more per round, full-fat MBTs have a much bigger logistical footprint just to exist on the battlefield. A javelin costs like a quarter million bucks for the command unit and another quarter million per round, so it's not practical to demolish a field fortification or trench system 20 lbs of TNT at a time that way. A full MBT shooting HE rounds at a structure is burning a lot of gas and heavy transport to be there that an assault gun should be halving or even better. It's cost to acquire and how much of a supply train you need to field it. That said though, the whole reason for MBTs to begin with was to make a universal system that would deprecate much or all of the need for light tanks, assault guns, heavy tanks, etc. by combining their best attributes. The Abrams unfortunately has become such a fat-rear end that it's created the need for an assault gun that actually has the same logistical footprint as an MBT.
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The Oldest Man posted:fire and forget missiles on vehicle platforms been around a while No poo poo, but that doesn’t make them faster to aim and fire or better for an assault gun’s purpose than a cannon.
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The Oldest Man posted:Healthy young superpower goes to military industrial complex, gets pumped with massive shot of higher costs and lower fleet sizes, doesn’t feel good and changes – GUNDAM. Many such cases That's wrong and you know it. The original Gundam was produced by a state controlled arms industry. It's only in the next show where the nazi arms industry got rolled into the private enterprise that the state funding was directed churning out endless boondogles that were supposed to revolutionize warfare.
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The Abrams is so fat that it currently requires TWO M88 tow trucks to haul its rear end back for repairs in the event of a breakdown. The M88 is being upgraded to deal with this but delivery is still years out so I figure by the time it happens the tanks will be even fatter and the situation will remain the same.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Ukrainian mud stuck girls posing in front of Abrams' sunk in up to the idlers when this is all over
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Slavvy posted:I'm looking forward to seeing Ukrainian mud stuck girls posing in front of Abrams' sunk in up to the idlers when this is all over please report to horny jail
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https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1700444943834116555 what the heck is britain spending money on lmao
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1700444943834116555 consultants
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1700444943834116555 What does a tiny island vassal of the US need an military for?
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1700444943834116555 Viciously grinding the poors into dust
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GlassEye-Boy posted:What does a tiny island vassal of the US need an military for? they need an army so they can pretend they can still murder brown people elsewhere
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1700444943834116555 Trashfuture has said often that Britain as a going concern is being wound down
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GlassEye-Boy posted:What does a tiny island vassal of the US need an military for? Their navy is barely bigger than some of the Russian fleets so there's some kind of blackhole that's consuming the money that's not showing up in their OOB.
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They have to keep an army, being in the security council P5, what they should have done is give the permanent membership to India and disband the army. Or just go full time contractors.
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1700444943834116555 Look at the cool photo
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"Britain might invade!" "Then I shall have them arrested" Is once again true
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Somebody posted the F-117 flight manuals on the War Thunder forum, reset the clock.
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It's becoming my favourite game I've yet to play.
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The Oldest Man posted:Somebody posted the F-117 flight manuals on the War Thunder forum, reset the clock. "do you play war thunder" is going to be an automatic disqualifier for security clearances
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bedpan posted:"do you play war thunder" is going to be an automatic disqualifier for security clearances would probably make the playerbase way less toxic!
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The Oldest Man posted:Somebody posted the F-117 flight manuals on the War Thunder forum, reset the clock. Wasn't it retired from service?
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KomradeX posted:Wasn't it retired from service? They still fly, just not in combat roles. Reportedly the “leak” about the F-117 on WT Forums recently was from a published, public manual you can just buy online.
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You can legally show the documents to other Americans just not foreigners
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So did the US retired the F117 because its stealth was "broken" by the Serbs? I named my router F117 because it was a "Nighthawk". And then I got better routers but kept the same name and password.
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stephenthinkpad posted:So did the US retired the F117 because its stealth was "broken" by the Serbs? It's fifty years old my man. Not every plane can be the b52
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