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The Mærsk family's decision to become Swedish makes it the duty of any patriotic Danish prime minister to imprison them all and nationalize the company.
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Should have happened after they sold weapons to the nazis during the occupation, but what can you do?
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Sep 10, 2023 12:07
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SplitSoul posted:Should have happened after they sold weapons to the nazis during the occupation, but what can you do?
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Sep 10, 2023 12:31
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The Mærsk family's decision to become Swedish makes it the duty of any patriotic Danish prime minister to imprison them all and nationalize the company. Agreed, recognizing Swedish sovereignty should be considered high treason
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Sep 10, 2023 12:31
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if you guys are up for rolling back brömsebro i reckon we can build something of a coalition here
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Sep 10, 2023 13:07
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Kalmar Union, but include Sweden and Scotland too.
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Sep 10, 2023 13:14
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Kalmar Union, but include Sweden and Scotland too.
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Sep 10, 2023 15:18
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TLM3101 posted:All right. That's it. Campaigning is done. Now it's all up to the voters. I doubt we'll get in, but we made a good fist of it and together with the rest of the center-left to us right out on the wing, managed to get Høire to run away from and talk about *any* other issue than the one they'd wanted to talk about, so I'm drat pleased. I will!
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Sep 10, 2023 19:04
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isn't kalmar in sweden
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V. Illych L. posted:isn't kalmar in sweden
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V. Illych L. posted:isn't kalmar in sweden Not for much longer.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Sweden was part of the Kalmar Union... 
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Sweden was part of the Kalmar Union... I mean geographically, perhaps...
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Sep 11, 2023 11:10
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Denmark had a commission look into how to keep the health care sector functional, since nurses and specialists are quitting due to stress and unsafe patient loads.quote:Kommissionen må ikke komme med forslag, der samlet set koster penge, ligesom den heller ikke må forholde sig til det sprængfarlige emne løn.  quote:Hvis sundhedsvæsenet skal hænge sammen, bør alle læger, sygeplejersker og sosu-assistenter tage skæve vagter en gang imellem om aftenen, i weekender og på helligdage. I wish they would pay me millions to say stupid poo poo.
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Sep 11, 2023 16:51
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And yes, let's use billions of DKK for tax cuts, while the kommuner have to save even more money than before!
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Sep 11, 2023 17:04
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What, is "weekender" actual danish?
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Sep 11, 2023 17:17
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If it is, it shouldn't be, so it definitely is.
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Sep 11, 2023 17:21
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Nidhg00670000 posted:What, is "weekender" actual danish? Yes, plural of weekend.
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Sep 11, 2023 17:25
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"Weekend" has been part of Danish since the fifties (says Google), it's so normalized that I wouldn't even know what else to call it.
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Sep 11, 2023 17:33
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it norwegian it's "helg", which i believe but am not sure is connected to "helligdag" somehow
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Sep 11, 2023 17:36
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Happy veckoslut every weekend all weekend
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Threadkiller Dog posted:veckoslut 
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Ugeferie (nogle gange skrevet med bindestreg) stammer fra 40'erne, men har åbenbart stadig en forbindelse til låneordet, men jeg var faktisk overrasket over at finde ud af at week-end er blevet brugt helt tilbage i 1910'erne.
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Esran posted:Denmark had a commission look into how to keep the health care sector functional, since nurses and specialists are quitting due to stress and unsafe patient loads. Are they allowed to suggest the real alternatives to better pay and working conditions? Like conscription, forced euthanasia and declaring Lolland independent. Or if you wanna be more realistic, spending a lot less on cancer treatment, which is notoriously inefficient and expensive.
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Once you start discussing who to sacrifice on the altar of More Tax Cuts Forever, you've already lost.
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BonHair posted:Are they allowed to suggest the real alternatives to better pay and working conditions? Like conscription, forced euthanasia and declaring Lolland independent. Esran posted:Once you start discussing who to sacrifice on the altar of More Tax Cuts Forever, you've already lost.
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KozmoNaut posted:And yes, let's use billions of DKK for tax cuts, while the kommuner have to save even more money than before! At least you don’t have to deal with that AND a currency in the shitter.
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BonHair posted:Or if you wanna be more realistic, spending a lot less on cancer treatment, which is notoriously inefficient and expensive. What do you base this on, and how do you ethically justify it? Because I struggle to read it as anything other than a desire to eradicate sick people, since cancer is one of the diseases with the highest mortality. As any oncologist will tell you, the best therapy for any sort of solid tumor that has yet to spread is always surgery, where the actual cost to the healthcare system is whatever the medical professionals are paid. For specific cancers or cancers without solid tumors, it's not uncommon that a cheap chemotherapy drug can make a frankly astonishing difference; for example, if you got diagnosed with testicular cancer before cisplatin was found to work on it, you had about 15% chance of surviving the next five years whereas after the introduction of cisplatin as part of the therapy, there's over 85% chance of surviving the next five years. Why do you think that is? It's not because cisplatin was invented to work specifically for testicular cancer (it was being studied to inhibit E. coli, which it does), but rather because our healthcare system benefits all of the published literature in ontological journals as well as from the knowledge sharing that happens at NORDCAN, which is a joint effort between Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, the Faroe Islands, and Greenland. Besides, what exactly do you think "re-prioritizing curative therapies at life's end and instead focusing on palliative care" means? By the time any one of us is 70, there's an even chance that we have some form of cancer. So congratulations, you're already getting what you want.
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That why you should treat the proles the same way you treat horses. As soon as you break a bone you get lead behind the shed and turned into tasty tasty glue.
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Yeah, I really have to stop that thing about cancer treatments, I should know I'm probably wrong. The main part of the argument that I actually remember is that cancer is super common, meaning everyone is affected by it either personally or by relations, which means that it has traditionally been an important political priority, regardless of how effective the actual treatment is. And that is, to my mind, politicians making medical priorities, which should be left to people who can figure out the best way to use limited resources (I'm actually kinda pro economists here). Obviously, especially with early treatment and diagnosing, cancer treatment is probably good in a lot of cases. And also obviously, it shouldn't really be a matter of deciding who gets to live and die based on the budget. Besides the obvious solution of budgeting to fit the need instead of budgeting to cut taxes, a lot of good could probably come from public pharma research at the universities instead of having to rely on our pals at Novo and friends. Anyway, don't listen to me, I will drop it by not posting further idiocy, because I'm clearly incapable of not being an idiot about this
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local elections are not looking enormously promising. looks like the broader bourgeois side is going to win a fair amount of cities and towns
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V. Illych L. posted:local elections are not looking enormously promising. looks like the broader bourgeois side is going to win a fair amount of cities and towns This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone... Local elections are at least in part a trial run for the big one two years down the line and the current government has basically made it a sport to step on rakes, so 
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at least bergen is going to be a glorious mess for another four years we have much to which we must live up
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i can’t fathom the type of voter who sees how nice Oslo has become, and thinks “i think i’ll vote for those who will gently caress all of this up, because government  ”
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yes, i realise that these people will only see (a lack of) parking spots and fume
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:As any oncologist will tell you, the best therapy for any sort of solid tumor that has yet to spread is always surgery, where the actual cost to the healthcare system is whatever the medical professionals are paid. This isn’t necessarily always the case. Often. Very often, even. But certainly not always.
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ulvir posted:yes, i realise that these people will only see (a lack of) parking spots and fume probably interested in looser permitting processes, property taxes and not going to school with arabs
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BonHair posted:Anyway, don't listen to me, I will drop it by not posting further idiocy, because I'm clearly incapable of not being an idiot about this
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Another thing to also consider about cancer being one of the highest mortality diseases is that the primary reason has nothing to do with the therapies, and everything to do with our ability to notice the disease(s) in the first place - because most cancers don't grow in places that are visible to us, so we only notice them once they've metastasized and start affecting the entire body (which I suspect is where the notion of "ineffective therapies" comes from, as it becomes a matter of providing life-extending therapies as opposed to just giving people palliative care, which is what the government has effectively asked to be recommended to do). The single biggest contributor to making cancer therapies more effective, as well as lowering the overall mortality of cancer, is early detection. That means screening for the parts of the population where it medically makes sense, vaccination for HPV for everyone, and things of that nature that pretty much any cancer support society is already doing its level best to encourage. Also, it's a well-established fact that just in the last 5 years, there have been found (or made more easily available, like the new photon beam cannon in Skejby that was being built in 2016, when I received cancer therapies there, and which was introduced in 2019, as the first one in Denmark) many new ways of combating specific kinds of cancer that dramatically improve the survival rate - so those "five year survival statistics" don't mean anything because they include data from people who're only recently past those 5 years, and therefore might've not gotten the most recent therapies. Moreover, for all the criticisms that can be laid at the feet of the medical industry, and there are many - it's not like they ever stop inventing new ways to the point that even if 90% doesn't get past the first two clinical trials, that five year survival statistic will continue to be inaccurate, despite it being the best statistical measure we have (*). *: It being a statistical measure, of course, means that it doesn't apply to any given patient - because there's all sorts of factors that go into it, so it's usually never a good idea to talk about that statistic with any cancer patient. Charles Ingalls posted:This isn’t necessarily always the case. Often. Very often, even. But certainly not always. However, even in those cases where some form of therapy like chemo- or radiation-therapy are used first, surgery is still usually part of the whole deal. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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