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kirbysuperstar posted:It was the age of StarForce, TAGES, FADE, etc yeah I lost a DVD-RW to that loving thing.
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There's still booth babes at video game conventions so it's not exactly a relic of the ancient past. Although certainly far less prevalent. Hell, TGS starts next week. Hogama posted:I guess the upshot of all this is that now that people know what's going on they've been able to provide clean patches so people can play their Steam copies of Manhunt on modern systems, but there's still nothing official from Rockstar fixing their products. I would imagine they'll delist it at some point similar to Midnight Club 2 and never fix it.
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The Embracer mess continues: GameDeveloper reports layoffs at Rainbow Studios (MX vs ATV Legends), and Reuters has heard whispers that they're considering selling Gearbox.
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The Kins posted:The Embracer mess continues: GameDeveloper reports layoffs at Rainbow Studios (MX vs ATV Legends), and Reuters has heard whispers that they're considering selling Gearbox. Duke's back, baby! 
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The Kins posted:The Embracer mess continues: GameDeveloper reports layoffs at Rainbow Studios (MX vs ATV Legends), and Reuters has heard whispers that they're considering selling Gearbox. I haven't followed it closely, but did Embracer just go on an acquisition spree and now is suddenly hemmoraging cash and gutting their studios? I remember hearing rumors about being financed by Saudi oil wealth, I don't think that was ever confirmed.
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pentyne posted:I haven't followed it closely, but did Embracer just go on an acquisition spree and now is suddenly hemmoraging cash and gutting their studios? That was exactly it. They thought they had Saudi Arabia money in the bag and went on an acquisition spree, then the Saudi Arabia deal fell through and they're basically shutting down and selling as much as they can to make money back.
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pentyne posted:I haven't followed it closely, but did Embracer just go on an acquisition spree and now is suddenly hemmoraging cash and gutting their studios? you have it backwards - they went on an acquisition spree expecting to be financed by Saudi oil wealth. the deal fell through and now they’re burning all those studios for warmth
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There’s a lot of cool little indie studios tied up in Embracer  So far they are just decimating underperforming studios which is ruining people’s livelihoods, but I’m selfishly happy that they haven’t touched the Valheim devs yet
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pentyne posted:I haven't followed it closely, but did Embracer just go on an acquisition spree and now is suddenly hemmoraging cash and gutting their studios? My read on the situation is that Embracer acted on the expectations of receiving some gigantic windfall (either through financers or through expected value from acquisitions) that never remotely materialized, and nothing released under their umbrella so far has come even remotely close to being a hit. (Except Valheim, kinda.) They've spent a lot of money on a whole lotta turkeys and I'm not sure Payday 3 or Space Marine 2 are gonna be the games that reverse those fortunes.
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Oxxidation posted:you have it backwards - they went on an acquisition spree expecting to be financed by Saudi oil wealth. the deal fell through and now they’re burning all those studios for warmth In a couple months I expect the Saudis to buy embracer for the IP for pennies on the dollar.
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Fruits of the sea posted:There’s a lot of cool little indie studios tied up in Embracer They basically bought up the entire second tier development world, seemingly expecting Saints Row (a series that hadn’t been relevant for a decade) and Lord of the Rings to carry them. They were very sure to confirm when shutting down Volition that they were keeping the Volition IP. They’re also not publishing the new Tomb Raider even though they own Crystal Dynamics, so they might just be shutting down most internal development and becoming an IP licensing house.
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lol Embracer owns Dark Horse, Asmodee, and Limited Run criminally incompetent corpo scumlord shitheads are about to go on a kill streak
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Isn't Embracer a rebrand of THQ Nordic, of 2chan fame?
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The Moon Monster posted:Isn't Embracer a rebrand of THQ Nordic, of 2chan fame?
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8chan is the QAnon/school shooter one, 2chan is the Japanese one.
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How the hell do they have 16,600 employees according to Wikipedia and barely any games released. I know it's not on the boardgame side because it was already being cut to the bone when it was owned by Asmodee.
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Quixotic1 posted:How the hell do they have 16,600 employees according to Wikipedia and barely any games released. Dont anyone tell this guy about Star Citizen!
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Embracer is some kind of massive holding/investment company or something, that's spent the last decade or whatever buying god knows how many studios and publishers. Back when I listened to the Bombcast before it effectively died I swear like every other week there was news that Embracer had brought someone else, and the early discussion was always "what is the Embracer Group?"
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embracer group's been like this from minute one. they started out as a small game retail chain in sweden, then that went under, then they reformed as a 'supplier.' they'd buy unsold stock from EA, THQ, etc, and then sell those on themselves to bulk swedish retailers like ICA and Coop, places that don't normally sell games. they'd price the games cheap but still amke a profit off them, and theyd usually be stuff that'd probably move units to casual consumers if sold cheaply enough, like sports games. then with that supply chain established, they bought and contracted some small european studios to make crap wii cashins like we sing and stuck it places normal people would see them. then they used the money from that to buy more small studios, etc etc. their strategy's always been to buy stuff on the cheap and then abandon it if it fails to return a profit. this was a sustainable strategy for wii party games, not so much aaa experiences, but of course nobody's going to tell their investors that.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:lol Embracer owns Dark Horse, Asmodee, and Limited Run Oof, I didn't know they bought LRG. I don't really care about LRG one way or the other, but they employ a bunch of people I like.
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Quixotic1 posted:How the hell do they have 16,600 employees according to Wikipedia and barely any games released. I'm gonna quote this post from the games chat thread. They own a loving lot including some very recent games like Remnant 2. The 7th Guest posted:a reminder of just some of the developers Embracer owns:
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njsykora posted:I'm gonna quote this post from the games chat thread. They own a loving lot including some very recent games like Remnant 2. Why is Free Radical on there? They haven't been called that since 2009 and their current name is already on the list
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Isn't a big chunk of those from a SquareEnix fire sale as a result of their disastrous foray into NFTs?
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They sold Eidos & Crystal D off because the games they made were barely scratching even and it wasn't a good fit for either side, not because of NFT poo poo Crystal D are also ostensibly still working on that Perfect Dark reboot that is in dev hell
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kirbysuperstar posted:Why is Free Radical on there? They haven't been called that since 2009 and their current name is already on the list I believe Embracer had announced plans to rename the studio back to Free Radical for them to work on a Timesplitters reboot.
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njsykora posted:I believe Embracer had announced plans to rename the studio back to Free Radical for them to work on a Timesplitters reboot. Oh, well..uhhh..hmmm yeah we'll see lol
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njsykora posted:I believe Embracer had announced plans to rename the studio back to Free Radical for them to work on a Timesplitters reboot.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Oh, well..uhhh..hmmm yeah we'll see lol The 7th Guest posted:yep. which, now, probably not lol lol lmao
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yeah fair I'll keep my conduct proper. They also own Grimlore (Spellforce series, Titan Quest II), Pieces Interactive (Alone in the Dark 2024, Titan Quest 2 DLC, Magicka 2), Nine Rocks Games (Way of the Hunter series), Mirage Game Studios (Little Big Workshop), Vertigo Games (Arizona Sunshine, After the Fall), Tuxedo Labs (Teardown), Mad Head Games (Scars Above, Adam Wolfe), and Tatsujin (Toaplan games such as Sky Shark, Zero Wing, Twin Cobra) What's also unfortunate is they own a lot of studios that were working on their first project, often a new IP. Like there's a couple dozen other studios I didn't mention because their first project is still under wraps. The totality of the fallout of Embracer is going to be felt over the next couple of years.
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The 7th Guest posted:
...and the cycle will start anew and nobody will have learned a thing.
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The whole acquisition spree was funded by the same Saudi investors anyway, so it was always a stupid pump and dump for some royals.
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kirbysuperstar posted:They sold Eidos & Crystal D off because the games they made were barely scratching even and it wasn't a good fit for either side, not because of NFT poo poo IIRC Square's western games were doing fine but they had wildly unrealistic sales expectations for them to carry their Final Fantasy bungles and ended up selling them off basically as a ragequit.
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And now nobody knows when the next Deus Ex games coming out. drat you Square Embracer 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:IIRC Square's western games were doing fine but they had wildly unrealistic sales expectations for them to carry their Final Fantasy bungles and ended up selling them off basically as a ragequit.
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Expecting them to sell as much as a numbered Final Fantasy title IS pretty unreasonable. Reminds me of how Capcom was genuinely surprised copying Call of Duty didn't somehow sell as well as Call of Duty.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Expecting them to sell as much as a numbered Final Fantasy title IS pretty unreasonable.
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Hitman has always been a niche franchise tbh
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dr_rat posted:And now nobody knows when the next Deus Ex games coming out. elias toufexis outright said he hasn't been approached for another deus ex gig, so unless they're rebooting again without jensen the IP is dead for now
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repiv posted:elias toufexis outright said he hasn't been approached for another deus ex gig, so unless they're rebooting again without jensen the IP is dead for now Yeah and honestly, unless your going to finish off the Jensen plot line I'm not particular sure where you go with the series plot line that would be more intresting than just starting a new IP entirly. ...possibly just ignore invisible war and do a sequel to the original? But really Eidos Montreal working on a game "in the spirit" of would be just as good. Enough media is caught up in just reusing old IP, a new IP from them with them would be fine as well. God knows what it's like working at one of the Embracer studios at the moment.
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