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Tesseraction posted:Well I've never seen a powerpoint bully. E: the terrifying pinnacle of genetic brutality, coiled and ready to strike at the throats on innocent bystanders: 
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Good to see my prediction that this would go on for days with everyone talking past each other hasn't come true If this was CSPAM I could save us the endless dog chat by saying something mildly critical about the USSR or Leninism but that is less effective here.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:46
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Say something mildly praising the Lib Dems.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:48
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Give every toddler a bully dog imo. Problem solved
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Sep 12, 2023 10:49
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The Office of Environmental Protection are concerned ministers have broken the law and foolishly expect something to happen about it, loving marks. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/12/ministers-may-have-broken-law-over-sewage-dumping-in-england-says-watchdog "...an investigation suggested the government, the Environment Agency and Ofwat may be failing to comply with environmental law and allowing raw sewage to be discharged by water companies more frequently than the law allows." A shocking revelation for us all I'm sure. Mega Comrade posted:Say something mildly praising the Lib Dems. Steady on, there's no call for that.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:50
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forkboy84 posted:"...an investigation suggested the government, the Environment Agency and Ofwat may be failing to comply with environmental law and allowing raw sewage to be discharged by water companies more frequently than the law allows."
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Sep 12, 2023 10:52
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I'm sure it's just those anti Brexit judges at it again.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:57
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forkboy84 posted:The Office of Environmental Protection are concerned ministers have broken the law and foolishly expect something to happen about it, loving marks. Oh cool I'm going to interpret the law differently when I poo poo on their doorstep.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:59
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Missing the ring
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Sep 12, 2023 10:59
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:well at my family gatherings we don't have a pedantic tedious rear end in a top hat every gathering has one of those. if you can't identify who it is then I have some bad news
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Sep 12, 2023 11:01
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:well at my family gatherings we don't have a pedantic tedious rear end in a top hat Why do you take a switched-on monitor to family gatherings
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Sep 12, 2023 11:05
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forkboy84 posted:If this was CSPAM I could save us the endless dog chat by saying something mildly critical about the USSR or Leninism but that is less effective here.  Not sure if this would help or complicate matters to be honest I wonder if he let his cats go outside and poop all over though?
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Sep 12, 2023 11:12
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Rappaport posted:
It's why Stalin isolated him and withheld his Last Testament, revenge for the cat poo poo. https://twitter.com/mgshanks/status/1701513186258649308?t=TbCDZhjxczbxJKbrXjOFLQ&s=19
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Sep 12, 2023 11:14
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Why do you matter more than a dog? Why would a dog be comfortable with someone who's afraid of them? I don't think dogs can be said to benefit from unpredictable encounters with random people--I'm sure that's stimulating and exciting, but likely very confusing as well. their owners do need to make sure they're comfortable and secure with the people they meet, and to prevent them from people yelling at them for reasons that they don't understand The leash/no leash debate is a bit reductionist I think, dogs are able to understand that some environments are better suited for regular exercise and checking what's going on in the neighborhood, while other environments are suitable for free-for-all running and play. The leash works great at communicating that, but there are other ways that work as well
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Sep 12, 2023 11:19
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https://twitter.com/TeltheTrekkie/status/1701538851397734652?t=hhymVc2p8Lm-2IPJFNV_HQ&s=19 Absolutely exquisite posting
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Sep 12, 2023 11:21
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Just need a fresh start. https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1686696453522018304
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Sep 12, 2023 11:32
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i know the iraq war was a magnitude worse, but just reminding alister campbell that he drove a man to suicide is such an easy hit i don’t know why more people don’t do it hang on…it’s a club and we’re not in it?
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Sep 12, 2023 11:44
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Why do you matter more than a dog? Well society is a bit of give and take so it’s entirely possible for both of us to go about our day with reasonable adjustment - the dog can be on a lead and I will not approach the dog. Maybe it is unfair to require well behaved dogs to be leashed as well, but there are too many irresponsible owners who would simply not bother to comply with any “reasonable time/place”. Case in point I was in Elan Valley in Wales a year ago or so, and there was clear signage everywhere saying that due to attacks on sheep, local wildlife and damage to biodiversity from visitors dogs they regret that while in the valley all dogs must be on a lead at all times. Probably only 1 in 4 dogs were actually on a lead, and those dogs did seem to be well behaved and I’m sure the owners felt it wasn’t necessary, but I imagine the owners of the dogs that did step out of line felt the same way. It’s like how a lot of old houses and heritage sites used to allow photography but no flashes because of the damage the flashes would do. Now these same places just don’t allow photography at all because too many people weren’t complying with the no flash rule. Bobby Deluxe posted:My dog going up to someone and giving them a sniff is not the same as a cane corso leaping at you snarling. The majority of gun owners use their weapons responsibly, why should all of them be restricted because of the actions of a tiny minority? The majority of drivers use their vehicles in a responsible manner, why should there be speed and other restrictions based on the actions of a tiny minority? Same thing. Although I don’t quite get people who get attached to firearms in the same way they do as a pet. There have been numerous times I’ve had a dog approach me just to check me out that has ended up with its muddy paws all over me, with an owner going all “tee hee sorry he’s just being friendly.” Or for a more extreme example, one instance where a dog came up to investigate me while I was off my bike waiting for the dog and owners to pass, didn’t look aggressive or anything with an owner giving the usual “don’t worry he’s just being friendly” speech. Said dog promptly started jumping on me and biting at my face; luckily the very panicked owner pulled it off and got it back on a lead while apologising profusely. The point is no one is saying (outside of potential breed specific stuff) that people can’t have dogs, it’s just society is a bit of give and take and if it’s in a public place please keep the dog on a lead. I would have thought the lead is a more comfortable solution than a muzzle as some have suggested. Frankly the argument about neurodiversity is a bit of a red herring; the fact is as a dog owner you know your dog, you know it’s temperament, you know what it’s likely and not likely to do. A stranger does not. For what it’s worth I think it swings both ways, people should not be going up to pet unknown dogs without the owners clear consent, and parents shouldn’t be encouraging their kids to do so either.
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Sep 12, 2023 11:45
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I think the gun comparison is a little weak given we don't have more mass bitings than days in the year nor is a school biting a weekly occurrence. And additionally dogs are living, feeling creatures, so comparing them to a tool whose literal only purpose for existence is killing feels like comparing apples and mass shootings.
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Sep 12, 2023 11:50
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Well society is a bit of give and take so it’s entirely possible for both of us to go about our day with reasonable adjustment - the dog can be on a lead and I will not approach the dog. I would love to see you try and exercise a healthy, active, young dog without taking it off the lead. Likewise id like to see you try and keep a dog who needs that happy while depriving it of that. You can’t. It’s impossible. A dog licence or some such is a fair bit of give and take. Never allowing dogs to have a good run about in the country/park and socialise is absolutely not.
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Sep 12, 2023 11:55
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Dogs particularly can only shoot people. It's what they're built for, in factories, by people, and are protected under the 2nd amendment of the constitution, a thing we definitely have in the UK.
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Sep 12, 2023 11:57
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anyone comparing owning a dog to owning a gun is either disingenuous or a loving idiot.
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Sep 12, 2023 12:00
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Sep 12, 2023 12:04
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forkboy84 posted:Good to see my prediction that this would go on for days with everyone talking past each other hasn't come true
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Sep 12, 2023 12:07
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Tesseraction posted:I think the gun comparison is a little weak given we don't have more mass bitings than days in the year nor is a school biting a weekly occurrence. And additionally dogs are living, feeling creatures, so comparing them to a tool whose literal only purpose for existence is killing feels like comparing apples and mass shootings. Yes admittedly it is a bit weak but I mentioned it because there are a lot of similarities in the way gun enthusiasts in the US reject any suggestion of restrictions despite the negative effect on society - they’re responsible and enjoy it so why should there be any restrictions? It’s like the car enthusiasts we have over here, they’re responsible car owners, why should there be restrictions on where they can go with their car or how fast they do it? It’s very individualistic and whether it’s people getting shot, run over or dealing with fumes, or being bitten or torn apart in the street - oh well, it’s a tiny minority and they’ll just have to deal.
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Sep 12, 2023 12:14
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DreddyMatt posted:If the prospect of interacting with a dog is a problem for you, then maybe just don't go to places where you're likely to encounter them. That would discount all but one pub within ~20 minutes walk of where I live in a major city, every cafe other than Greggs as far as I know, and even a lot of small shops. Tried politely asking on a local FB group for any pubs that weren't dog friendly (due to a close friend who's been attacked previously so is v uncomfortable around them) and got nothing but hate for it.
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Sep 12, 2023 12:20
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But the thing is we do have restrictions on dogs? They must be microchipped for tracking, they must always be put on a lead if requested (demanded) by police, they are put down if they bite a human being once. Yes there are people who are bad apples, and I would absolutely prefer bad owners are given more stick, but we are not second amendment-ing about dogs here; there are rules and traceability enforced.
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Sep 12, 2023 12:25
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Tesseraction posted:But the thing is we do have restrictions on dogs? They must be microchipped for tracking, they must always be put on a lead if requested (demanded) by police, they are put down if they bite a human being once. Yes there are people who are bad apples, and I would absolutely prefer bad owners are given more stick, but we are not second amendment-ing about dogs here; there are rules and traceability enforced. we all know police are anti-human and pro-gun, but are they pro or anti dog
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Sep 12, 2023 12:27
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For what it's worth I was terrified of dogs after narrowly avoiding being bitten by a jack russell (that was put down for that by its first good owner) and then being bitten by a potentially rabid dog (with lovely owner) and having to have my terrified arse dragged to the hospital to make sure I wasn't terminally ill. Changed after I held a puppy in the palm of my hand and watched it grow up to unconditionally love me, but I appreciate that's not something you can magically grant someone the experience of.
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Sep 12, 2023 12:28
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:we all know police are anti-human and pro-gun, but are they pro or anti dog
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Sep 12, 2023 12:30
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:we all know police are anti-human and pro-gun, but are they pro or anti dog 
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Sep 12, 2023 12:30
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Didn't they only come out with that as a reaction to Labour's "we will ban cigarettes?" Disposable vapes are trash and there should at the very least be a battery/ewaste deposit scheme that's better than "chuck them in the park where they can start fires", but the whole "we will ban old thing"/"no we will ban new thing" double act is pretty tired.
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Sep 12, 2023 12:35
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I saw the banning of XL Bullys and Vapes yesterday described as “The Scouse 9/11”
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Sep 12, 2023 12:39
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Yes admittedly it is a bit weak but I mentioned it because there are a lot of similarities in the way gun enthusiasts in the US reject any suggestion of restrictions despite the negative effect on society - they’re responsible and enjoy it so why should there be any restrictions? You were talking about being sniffed not being torn apart you muppet. If you’re terrified of being ripped to shreds every time a typically friendly breed that doesn’t appear to be in any way aggressive approaches you, that’s a you problem in the same way people with a fear of cars or other parts of public life kind of need to work on it or stay away from where they might be exposed to their fear. Your irrational fear isn’t something that the whole of society should have to adapt to, sorry about it. And again, I agree dogs shouldn’t be jumping up and getting nippy, but if you’re this vexed by a dog merely approaching you that’s on you bud. Also lol at the far thing, you do know we have speed limits and the vast majority of people who like cars are fully in favour of them? The world has things in it that can under the wrong circumstances be dangerous and scary, and that doesn’t mean we should be rid of them and try to minimise danger/fear at the cost of all else. Your posts, for example, cause me psychic harm but I don’t ask for you to be banned do I?
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Sep 12, 2023 12:43
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It's always telling that Brits go abroad and inevitably get bitten by stray dogs they try to pet. This results in said (usually otherwise innocent) dog getting destroyed as many places will operate a "if it ever tastes human it's dead" policy.
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Sep 12, 2023 12:44
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This is because British tourists are dumb as a box of rocks and will sleep through coups and then complain about the mess on tripadviser. I didn't see anyone attempt to pet the strays when I lived in Coventry because nobody is that terminally unaware.
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Sep 12, 2023 12:48
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British tourists should be kept leashed. We do untold damage and steal artifacts when allowed to roam free overseas.Guavanaut posted:Didn't they only come out with that as a reaction to Labour's "we will ban cigarettes?" Its a very lazy appeal to the public but I genuinely think they should just be banned, even if people bin them they end up in a landfill. And it's not like it's a ban on all vapes, just the ones that are mostly used by children and encourage huge amounts of ewaste.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:It’s very individualistic and whether it’s people getting shot, run over or dealing with fumes, or being bitten or torn apart in the street - oh well, it’s a tiny minority and they’ll just have to deal. What needs to change there is the person with extreme dog anxiety, not literally everyone else. That's not ableism or individualism - Individualism would be saying "I don't like dogs so therefore nobody else in society should be able to let their dog off the leash." What you are talking about there is weaponised compliance. A person has a right to a safe zone around them. But when they walk up to someone else so they're in their zone and say "I don't feel safe, you need to leave," that's... That's not how any of this works. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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And anti dogs belonging to homeless people: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/12/iopc-to-investigate-met-police-officers-after-man-tasered-and-two-dogs-shot-dead
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Tesseraction posted:I think the gun comparison is a little weak given we don't have more mass bitings than days in the year nor is a school biting a weekly occurrence. And additionally dogs are living, feeling creatures, so comparing them to a tool whose literal only purpose for existence is killing feels like comparing apples and mass shootings. They are the 3rd most dangerous animal to man however, after insects, snakes in terms of deaths. Some form of consideration should be given that dogs are actually very dangerous animals and every year loads of people particularly children are mauled and maimed. While I don't think dogs need to be leashed 100% of the time, I think the laws need to be a lot more strict about dogs who show signs of aggressiveness and there should be efforts to breed that behavior away. That dog earlier who mauled that autistic boys cat to death should have been put down after the first such incident but this was like the 3rd cat it killed. Muzzling requirement was just ignored.
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