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I was doing so well in V, then got shredded on Kafka’s last healthbar as she one-shot Luocha and Bronya while Gepard was recharging. If I get Fu, does she pair well with Blade? My current set up is either something like Bronya/Luocha/fireblazer/Blade or Bronya/Luocha/Gepard/Kafka (because my Tingyun and Luka is e6 but also underleveled and undertraced and underelic’ed because it takes so long to build anyone jesus christ.) Marvel at my… completely great relic stats going on.     I would put Luocha’s speed boots on Bronya but then she goes so fast her skill doesn’t work because Blade’s a snail. A tanky, tanky snail. I find relics just so overwhelming because there’s so many numbers (I have dyscalculia don’t judge) and such rng.
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Finally completed difficulty 5   Just had to roll exodia shield blessings and not die, also casually do 1.2 million damage with resonance lmao 
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Sep 12, 2023 08:10
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GateOfD posted:not sure i understand how to get dual resonance or whatever in swarm You need three blessings of your path, and also three blessings of one of two specific other paths (eg if you took Preservation then it can resonate with Nihility and Remembrance but not any other path). One of the tabs in the "SU info" button during a run will tell you which other paths work and what you get for it
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Sep 12, 2023 09:23
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Easiest way to think about it is that you need to have your resonance unlocked before you can get the resonance upgrades from the other secondary paths.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:34
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I had some trouble trying to get the "use an ultimate to deal the final blow" daily quest done with Kafka today. Does the DoT-echoing part of her ulti not count, and you have to do it with the initial flat damage? Even if it's her own Shock that it's echoing, which itself comes from her ulti?
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Sep 12, 2023 10:24
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Godamnit why do they put the triple trotters in the reward zones? It feels more like a punishment than a reward. Just give me some free loot not a boring long-rear end battle 
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Sep 12, 2023 10:31
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FractalSandwich posted:I had some trouble trying to get the "use an ultimate to deal the final blow" daily quest done with Kafka today. Does the DoT-echoing part of her ulti not count, and you have to do it with the initial flat damage? Even if it's her own Shock that it's echoing, which itself comes from her ulti? Yeah for some reason her ultimate is inconsistent, I think it has to be the flat damage and not triggering the DoT E: how does anyone beat all three Trotters anyway? Best I can do is two if I'm running Kafka.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:47
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Remembrance, pretty much.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:49
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Maybe one day I'll actually continue story and catch up to poo poo. I basically am barely into the Xianzhou Luofu stuff. But I got supremely lucky and now have a Level 50 Dan Heng IL + Level 50 Signature Light Cone so uh... yeah I was able to scoot through World 4 SU finally relatively easily. 
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Sep 12, 2023 10:58
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Clarste posted:The mission doesn't require you to win, you can trivially get it just by walking forward and not taking detours? provided you get a layout on 2 that lets you do that, sometimes you get holes that make it impossible to do a straight line e: for the ultimate daily thing it has to a) be the ultimate itself that does the final blow and b) has to end the fight entirely. for anything with multiple rounds finishing any round but the last via ult doesn't count
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Sep 12, 2023 12:53
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So if I decide to make Jing Yuan great again, I need his talent at 10. Skill and ult are good at 7? And 146 speed?
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Sep 12, 2023 13:00
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Jing Yuan was never great.
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Sep 12, 2023 13:53
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GoodluckJonathan posted:Jing Yuan was never great. Tell that to his hair.
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Sep 12, 2023 14:14
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My friend's support Jing Yuan was great when I started the game a few weeks ago and wanted to speedrun material/relic farms. Now that I've just hit Equilibrium 5...maybe not as much. So it goes.
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Sep 12, 2023 14:43
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money bags here , have over 5million credits since I skipped on dragon and kekfa
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Sep 12, 2023 16:44
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GoodluckJonathan posted:Jing Yuan was never great. Do you mean story-wise or gameplay-wise? Because gameplay wise he's still a regular fixture in successful MoC teams. The weird "Jing Yuan sucks, actually" thing has never really been based in reality.
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Sep 12, 2023 17:13
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jing yuan is good but i can understand being frustrated by his quirks
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Sep 12, 2023 17:22
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so the 'enter the final boss domain at 0' quest actually means enter it at 1 going to zero and I just wasted like 45 minutes hooray edit: also the continuous and neverending complaining about jy is very tiring
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Sep 12, 2023 17:30
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I like using Jing Yuan more than Seele, honestly.
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Sep 12, 2023 17:34
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Kanos posted:Do you mean story-wise or gameplay-wise? Seems like that also might've had something to do with prydwen stopping their DPS comparisons There's some obvious power differences but everyone's got their strengths, and JY is far from the worst at his job.
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Sep 12, 2023 17:41
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Xalidur posted:I like using Jing Yuan more than Seele, honestly. Same. My only frustration with JY is LL being delayed when he gets CCed. Hoping Fu Xuan’s CC resistance will help out with that. I think I soured on this game early due to maining Seele. Having a much better time since starting up again using some other dps characters.
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Sep 12, 2023 17:56
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wish you could use items in swarm, at least there be an actual use for them, i know they're trying to make them more useful
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Sep 12, 2023 18:09
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i think i'm missing on what triggers the swarm doing that combo hit its spamming where it all flies at you over and over
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Sep 12, 2023 18:16
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coolusername posted:If I get Fu, does she pair well with Blade? My current set up is either something like Bronya/Luocha/fireblazer/Blade or Bronya/Luocha/Gepard/Kafka (because my Tingyun and Luka is e6 but also underleveled and undertraced and underelic’ed because it takes so long to build anyone jesus christ.)
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Sep 12, 2023 18:21
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Yeah, the theorycraft I've seen shows Lynx as being upwards of a 30% damage increase for Blade.
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Sep 12, 2023 18:22
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I have both Blade and Clara, both who probably will love Lynx. Trying to figure out what follow-up heavy teams will be the best, especially after Topaz releases. Blade/Clara/Topaz/Lynx? Blade/Jing/Topaz/Lynx? Either Blade or Clara/Topaz/Bronya/Lynx?
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Sep 12, 2023 18:30
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GateOfD posted:i think i'm missing on what triggers the swarm doing that combo hit its spamming where it all flies at you over and over You mean when they're taking their turns? Those bugs are speedy
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Sep 12, 2023 18:31
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GateOfD posted:i think i'm missing on what triggers the swarm doing that combo hit its spamming where it all flies at you over and over Like most bosses, it'll give you a big warning the turn before, so save any Gepard ultimates / make sure Luocha has his field up then I assume it does more damage the more juvenile stings are on the field, so try and take out a couple of them at that point.
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Sep 12, 2023 18:36
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It is done. I am finished. Mode is fun! Definitely have some pretty strong opinions about the paths, but I think it's too simple to say that some are better than others. Rather, I think some have higher potential, but others are more consistent. Abundance and Remembrance are probably the easiest overall, and I probably would have had an easier time with Preservation if I had Gepard. The path that took me the most attempts to clear was Propogation, but I think a large part of that was my lack of understanding how it works. Like, the path bonus and blessings are one thing, but strategy for where to go on the board and when to cheat/reroll took some figuring out. Especially because their swarm occurrences are weird. Once I finally got a decent run, I absolutely smashed everything at the end. I don't think the final boss got a turn after they split up in phase 3. I did Elation last, particularly because I don't have Clara or Jing Yuan. But it surprisingly went pretty smoothly with a team of Himeko, Kafka, Luocha, and March 7th.
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Not So Fast posted:Like most bosses, it'll give you a big warning the turn before, so save any Gepard ultimates / make sure Luocha has his field up then Yeah it does more damage the more bugs there are, so you can either try to finish them off asap after the warning, or you can break the boss which will cancel it. In the last phase (when there's two of the big bugs) I tend to hit the original one a bunch to soften up its toughness bar, and if I'm close to breaking it before the warning comes I switch to the other big bug. Then when the warning appears I go back to break the original. I'm not 100% sure that the original one always does the move first between the two, but it seems like it.
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Sep 12, 2023 18:57
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I don't think I have ever broken the big bug and won, because that implies I am killing it way too slowly.
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Sep 12, 2023 19:12
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Clarste posted:I don't think I have ever broken the big bug and won, because that implies I am killing it way too slowly. This is very questionable. Whether or not I'm using a high damage team, stuff gets broken. I suppose I rate the nihility blessing that increases break efficiency pretty highly, but it's so good with almost everything.
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Finally made it to Phase 2 in level 5, with Preservation. Lucked into some of the important blessings (though I'm still not at "shields become insane" level and think I might die if I encounter any really strong enemies soon). Remembrance blessings + Gepard help with limiting damage as well, just through freezing guys.
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AshtonDragon posted:This is very questionable. Whether or not I'm using a high damage team, stuff gets broken. I suppose I rate the nihility blessing that increases break efficiency pretty highly, but it's so good with almost everything. It's more that the boss is only vulnerable to Quantum and Imaginary (neither of which I'm using) and one random element. "Stuff" gets broken all the time, sure, but not the big bug. He's got a chunky toughness meter too.
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Clarste posted:It's more that the boss is only vulnerable to Quantum and Imaginary (neither of which I'm using) and one random element. "Stuff" gets broken all the time, sure, but not the big bug. Okay, that's honestly fair. You made it sound like you were just killing it too quickly to break, which is bizarre. Most of my runs were using Silver Wolf, who is great for all the usual reasons, but also because the other supports are kinda underwhelming when you get so many attack/damage/crit buffs from other sources. Her weakness implanting is always nice, although admittedly it has been inconsistent on the final boss. I'm unclear on if it's because they have a higher resistance than other enemies, or if the weakness implanted by the first boss is somehow interfering with it.
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The weakness from the first boss choice doesn't stack with SW.
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God dammit, I was doing so good that time, but had some terrible luck in Kafka's final phase at the end of Phase 2 where she did a bunch of attacks back-to-back without Gepard or my Path Resonance being available to protect everyone. Probably not going to have luck that good again for a while either.
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My team is Luocha/Blade/Bronya/Silver Wolf, so even if I don't get the first boss to make them wind weak, Silver Wolf implants wind every time. I also try to get the 3* hunt blessing to advance forward 100% after breaking. I line up the little guys with Luocha's ultimate (or if I'm lucky I get the second boss boost to make them come with lowered toughness), and Silver Wolf knocks them all down. That feeds her ultimate a bunch to use on the big bugs to chew through their toughness.
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Perhaps my problem is that I was sometimes using a character of the extra weakness's type. Like if the boss had fire weakness added, and I had Asta in the team, then maybe Silver Wolf was attempting to add fire weakness sometimes? Either way, it still worked most of the time. I was regularly breaking the boss with all of my teams.
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AshtonDragon posted:Perhaps my problem is that I was sometimes using a character of the extra weakness's type. Like if the boss had fire weakness added, and I had Asta in the team, then maybe Silver Wolf was attempting to add fire weakness sometimes? Yes, that's how it works. The extra weakness from the first boss is handled exactly the same way SW's implanted weaknesses are, they aren't added to the boss in a true fashion.
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