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I'm not a big time business genius, but this thing seems like a bad idea.
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It's Unreal or Godot. The latter has been slowly growing in mindshare and features. I think Godot is trying to do a Blender.
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Begemot posted:Presumably pirates are going to strip out whatever part of the new installer is phoning home. But this is not guaranteed, and nothing stops people who want to cause harm from spreading copies that still send back installation stats.
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Sep 12, 2023 22:18
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i wonder how many games get removed from sale because of this
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I saw someone also point out that this basically wrecks the ability for something like Vampire Survivors to come into existence.
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ImpAtom posted:I saw someone also point out that this basically wrecks the ability for something like Vampire Survivors to come into existence. I’m pretty sure Mr. Galante could port his game to Godot pretty easily.
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Sep 12, 2023 22:32
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Vampire Survivors was just ported to Unity very recently, it was some HTML based thing originally
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Sep 12, 2023 22:50
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Boycott indies by installing and reinstalling their game all day long. Unity bringing powers to the GAMERS!!1!!!!
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Oxxidation posted:riccitello subscribes to the “gently caress are you gonna do about it” school of business so let’s hope mihoyo makes a few phone calls to the board of directors or something my current theory is that the shareholders are going to crucify him in the lobby as a reminder to the next one
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Sep 12, 2023 23:00
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don't feed the golden goose into a woodchipper
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Sep 12, 2023 23:01
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Good thing most of us already buy games and never play them. It'll be a pretty easy move to never installing them either.
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https://twitter.com/TafferKing451/status/1701712677729689822
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No Wave posted:In the sense that you owe money for previous installs no. In the sense that starting Jan 1 2024 you'll have to pay for future installs of games that you published years ago yes. lmao The ultimate in rent seeking
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Sep 12, 2023 23:21
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Godot, for one.
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No Wave posted:In the sense that you owe money for previous installs no. In the sense that starting Jan 1 2024 you'll have to pay for future installs of games that you published years ago yes. Did the previous license not grant you the right to redistribute the runtime with your game? What did people pay the subscriptions for then? Imagine if you pulled that with anything else, like "oh sorry your car's engine block is part of the premium car entertainment system package now, better pay up"
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tango alpha delta posted:I’m pretty sure Mr. Galante could port his game to Godot pretty easily. I'm sure some people will do it out of spite though overeager overeater posted:Did the previous license not grant you the right to redistribute the runtime with your game? What did people pay the subscriptions for then? IMO the biggest problem is that even if a developer is like "well fine we have no choice, so ok" it doesn't seem like there's anything stopping unity from doing more of this kind of thing in the future mystes fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 13, 2023 |
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Mierenneuker posted:Be sure to visit the points shop to claim a free tunak tunak tun profile background and feel extremely old. Is the points shop only for cosmetics or can they be used for anything else? Just realised I have about 75000 of them
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Artelier posted:Is the points shop only for cosmetics or can they be used for anything else? Just realised I have about 75000 of them Just dumb cosmetic bullshit. Chat emojis, profile picture borders, backgrounds etc. I have 228,000 
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I support John Ricola’s extremely smart decision to explode his company and wish him a very merry unpacked golden parachute.
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Orv posted:I support John Ricola’s extremely smart decision to explode his company and wish him a very merry unpacked golden parachute. oh my god it’s the guy from ea everyone hated! this makes total sense!
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Weedle posted:oh my god it’s the guy from ea everyone hated! this makes total sense! He’s been so poo poo for so long in that “but it makes us lots of money!” way and I wish he’d stop.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:my current theory is that the shareholders are going to crucify him in the lobby as a reminder to the next one Markets don't reflect any kind of reckoning, so I don't think they care yet: 
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the markets aren't going to go down in reaction to news that the company is about to make a shitload of extra money from licensing, they'll go down in like two or three years when that decision has reduced unity's marketshare and their growth is restricted by onboarding; at which point the shareholders have already made that money so it was a good decision to make.
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If nothing else I just can't imagine a company like Activision or Mihoyo just rolling over and paying. That or they're going to lie through their teeth and suddenly Star Rail only has 100 downloads a month I guess.
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this is the most insane tweet yet https://twitter.com/unity/status/1701689241456021607 literally admitting they're making the numbers up -OR- they've put spyware in the installs. both incredibly bad possibilities
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No Wave posted:In the sense that you owe money for previous installs no. In the sense that starting Jan 1 2024 you'll have to pay for future installs of games that you published years ago yes. How would they be able to count installs for old games unless the developer updated the runtime? Is it already phoning home?
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if you look up "unity phone home" you can see people from like 2014 complaining about it doing so
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moosferatu posted:How would they be able to count installs for old games unless the developer updated the runtime? Is it already phoning home? Feels like a bad idea to reveal you've been violating GDPR billions of separate times, lol
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overeager overeater posted:Did the previous license not grant you the right to redistribute the runtime with your game? What did people pay the subscriptions for then?
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No Wave posted:Yeah it's extremely suspect. You can't actually just change terms on a whim this dramatically even if your T&C checkbox reserves the right to do so because otherwise what's stopping them from saying "it's effective now and you owe us 99% of your revenue". It's not actually legal to scam like that. I dunno if you’ve followed the exploits of the rich lately but uhhhh kinda might be? Jokes aside that far would probably be beyond the pale but I could totally see them taking indie devs to court for all their money when they don’t pay up for 2024 installs that Unity shouldn’t know anything about.
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Ghostlight posted:if you look up "unity phone home" you can see people from like 2014 complaining about it doing so Hmm... I was curious. I installed Hollow Knight and launched it (didn't play) and didn't see any non-steam related traffic on my pihole. I guess they could have the IPs hard coded, but I doubt it. This post seems to suggest that it doesn't phone home unless "cloud services" are enabled. https://forum.unity.com/threads/does-unity-still-phone-home-at-runtime.1163186/
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Guys it's been 20 years All I can afford to give is some free stickers peeps don't use and a wallpaper and avatar for Russian bots
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I'm sorry you didn't get the rewards you were due for your loyalty
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It does seem odd that there’s not like, Portal 1 free to keep or some hats or something. Not that they owe it but it seems easy.
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:I'm sorry you didn't get the rewards you were due for your loyalty Stolen valor
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They meant to give away Ricochet 2 to everyone for free but the source code got misplaced.
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Begemot posted:https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1701679722873127404 
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I just saw something incredibly weird but not unwelcome. I bought a Ubisoft game, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, because I wanted something brainless to play and it was like 85% off or something, and it has the most bizarre gameplay option I've ever seen. Upon starting a new game it asks you "Would you like to turn off the Gear Score loot treadmill?" and if you pick yes then they just completely remove the modern Gear Score bullshit from the game. It's just an option that's part of the difficulty customization. I was really baffled by it but I do like not having to deal with constant loot sifting.
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That wasn't possible in the game originally, it was one of the additions in the big update in the year after the game released. https://kotaku.com/ubisoft-is-massively-reworking-ghost-recon-breakpoint-1842127799
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