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Popete posted:Ross being upfront about PCA not being an everyday player down the stretch is perfectly fine. PCA is probably well aware of the situation and his role on the team and isn't taking what Ross said personally. He seemed pretty excited to have dropped down that sac bunt last night. This is the final stretch, we'll see PCA a lot more next year. A lot of these moves are also because they are incredibly cheap. They could have signed Candelario outright over the winter but he was a few million more than Hosmer. And remember the Cubs had to give up a better prospect in return because they wanted the Nats to pay his remaining salary.
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Niwrad posted:A lot of these moves are also because they are incredibly cheap. They could have signed Candelario outright over the winter but he was a few million more than Hosmer. And remember the Cubs had to give up a better prospect in return because they wanted the Nats to pay his remaining salary. In retrospect true but Candelario was coming off of a down year for Detroit, I don't think he was the obvious 1b FA choice for the Cubs especially if they were eyeing Mervis for the position. Hosmer was a dirt cheap established player, he just needed to be competent. it didn't work out so they cut him. Mancini made less sense to me given they had signed Hosmer but I suppose the hope was he would fill in if Hosmer didn't pan out.
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Hosmer was dirt cheap because he sucks. If Candelario was a risk, a guy like Drury could play 1B and offers some added versatility if Mervis panned out. Just felt like a cheap move.
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That glove came in handy pretty early today https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/1701762315409125765
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RC and Moon Pie posted:And Matt Olson tied Andruw Jones for the franchise single season home run record at 51. Absolutely wild that 51 is the team record, and it’s not held by either 2 team members of the 500 HR club (including the true all time leader), or another guy who fell just shy of 500.
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GPTribefan posted:(including the true all time leader) lol
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GPTribefan posted:(including the true all time leader) BBWAA account spotted
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GPTribefan posted:Absolutely wild that 51 is the team record, and it’s not held by either 2 team members of the 500 HR club (including the true all time leader), or another guy who fell just shy of 500. so many things come back round to the frankly unreasonable consistency & longevity of Henry Aaron.
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Mike_V posted:Adam Wainwright has been terrible this year and hasn't won a game in months it seems like yet somehow got his 199th win against the Orioles on the road was gonna say that game was so counterintuitive it was nailed on for a Cards win. always liked Wainwright as one who got away, hope he gets 200 and they lose every other game
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Yep, as the prophecy foretold earlier in this thread. Odd game. O’s 1-12 with RISP including 3 GIDPs was brutal.
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Lately, Cavan Biggio has been the Blue Jays most reliable and consistent hitter. It is dire.zoux posted:You can be the hottest team in baseball and still get 3 hit shut out by the loving As I was wondering why it seemingly took so long for him to report to Buffalo after being optioned - and then later why he was removed from the Buffalo team without pitching a game because "they needed a roster spot." Not at all a smart career move for someone who bombed so hard this year. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Sep 13, 2023 |
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:That glove came in handy pretty early today
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Lately, Cavan Biggio has been the Blue Jays most reliable and consistent hitter. It is dire. What's weird is, why hasn't the team just suspended him for refusing to report where assigned? It's been a month. Something unusual is going on there.
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IcePhoenix posted:https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2023/2023-09/12/fbe67eb3-32e3c13d-f1a6c641-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4 running even halfway to first....christ im feelin sick just watchin it
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Eric the Mauve posted:What's weird is, why hasn't the team just suspended him for refusing to report where assigned? It's been a month. Something unusual is going on there. He's in the minors not making poo poo. The Jays want to manage the relationship cause he currently has 0 value otherwise. Suspending doesn't really help that.
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If he was still in the Jays' long term plans and they wanted to manage the relationship, they wouldn't have sent him down in the first place. I greatly doubt they were blindsided to discover he was pissed off about the prospect. I doubt he's ever going to pitch for the Jays again at this point. The standoff is between the team wanting him to pitch in the minors and hopefully pitch well so they can trade him for something vs. him wanting to be released, most likely
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Are the Blue Jays shady? I feel like this isn't the first time they've done something like this since Shapiro took over but I can't think of anything specific.
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live with fruit posted:Are the Blue Jays shady? I feel like this isn't the first time they've done something like this since Shapiro took over but I can't think of anything specific. What exactly is shady about sending down a pitcher with an ERA near 6 and continuing to pay him (the minor league pittance yes, but they could suspend him and pay him $0) for a month when he refuses to report?
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:That glove came in handy pretty early today And then in the 6th inning https://twitter.com/WatchMarquee/status/1701790145320714718
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The Jays still have 2 options on him, so if he wants to keep being a pissbaby he can enjoy not playing baseball and not getting paid for the next 2+ years, I guess. The whole situation is bizarre on both sides, can't wait to find out what's really going on there.
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Eric the Mauve posted:What exactly is shady about sending down a pitcher with an ERA near 6 and continuing to pay him (the minor league pittance yes, but they could suspend him and pay him $0) for a month when he refuses to report? You're the one who said that they knew they'd blow up their relationship by sending him down.
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Sure but that doesn't mean it's shady. It just means they decided they didn't care enough about his delicate feelings to keep running him out to get lit up every fifth day while they're trying to make the playoffs, and if they end up losing him as a result so be it. In what way is that "shady"? Manoah has started down the path towards the particular enlightenment that in baseball as in most walks of life, you can get away with sucking or with being an rear end in a top hat, but not both. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Sep 13, 2023 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:Sure but that doesn't mean it's shady. It just means they decided they didn't care enough about his delicate feelings to keep running him out to get lit up every fifth day while they're trying to make the playoffs, and if they end up losing him as a result so be it. In what way is that "shady"? Well when you put it that way.
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demoting a pitcher who has options and sucks isn't shady it doesn't become shady if he pitches better fits than games, either
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fast cars loose anus posted:demoting a pitcher who has options and sucks isn't shady Just dumb then? If you know that Manoah's going to react like this, it doesn't seem wise to do it. Now him coming back is probably off the table and they'll be lucky to get anything decent back in a trade.
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live with fruit posted:Just dumb then? If you know that Manoah's going to react like this, it doesn't seem wise to do it. Now him coming back is probably off the table and they'll be lucky to get anything decent back in a trade. So what, just suffer one in five starts being an automatic loss because Manoah is unplayable? I have no idea what the hell you're even advocating for with all these posts. Sending him down was the right move and if Manoah wants to have any kind of career long term then he's gonna need to get over it.
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Eric the Mauve posted:If he was still in the Jays' long term plans and they wanted to manage the relationship, they wouldn't have sent him down in the first place. I greatly doubt they were blindsided to discover he was pissed off about the prospect. There's 0 chance he thinks they are going to release him. They wanted him to keep making starts and there was no chance of that happening in the majors with Ryu back and effective and them having a bunch of off days. He was pissed cause it cost him literal millions NEXT SEASON, and subsequent years, if he'd been on the team the rest of the year he'd have been a super 2 next season and get that extra year of arb that's worth 10-15 million extra. If the Jays were willing to burn the relationship completely they would have suspended him when he didn't report instead of feeding bs stories to the media about injuries and whatever else. They need a cheap starter next year, and he's the best one in the organization that could start the year in the majors. live with fruit posted:Just dumb then? If you know that Manoah's going to react like this, it doesn't seem wise to do it. Now him coming back is probably off the table and they'll be lucky to get anything decent back in a trade. So just gift him a roster spot to hang out when you're trying to make the playoffs? That doesn't make any sense. As I said, the rotation is full, and they weren't going to stick him in the pen just to hang out and be nice.
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The Jays bend over backwards for years of control to their own detriment constantly. They aren't going to suddenly purge Manoah cause he's being a baby. They have all the leverage.
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