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I'm seeing lots of chatter on Reddit (and vidoes with some massive explosions)that the Sevastpol attack might have destroyed a landing craft and a freaking diesel submarine that was docked there. If so it should be confirmed pretty quick through satellite imagery.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 04:36 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 14:14 |
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Things are definitely popping off there. https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1701802453048398007
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 04:40 |
Starlink went down globally for an hour or two earlier today, so I don't think they were related. Also, according to Musk's biographer in the Atlantic the new contract they signed with the military after the issues actually gives the military ownership of some of the satellites and not just a contract for service: quote:Isaacson: When Russia invaded Ukraine, they were able to disable the satellite communications of private companies, like Viasat, and military satellites. The only one that could resist Russian attacks was Starlink, and immediately Musk started getting texts from Ukrainian leaders. His savior instincts kick in, and he’s deeply supportive of Ukraine. He sends hundreds of Starlink satellites and pays for free use by Ukraine. Then as the war goes on, there’s one amazing Friday night where he texted me, and I’m at my old high school watching a football game. I go behind the bleachers, and he’s talking about the Ukrainians using Starlink for a sneak submarine drone attack on the Russian fleet in Sevastopol, Crimea. And he says, “How did I get into this war? I just made Starlink so people could watch movies and play games.” He decides not to allow the Ukranian drone subs to sink the Russian fleet, which he thinks would lead to World War III. He begins to realize, Why am I in this position? That’s too much power. From: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/09/elon-musk-walter-isaacson-biography/675277/
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 04:48 |
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https://www.twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1701811541933260836?s=46&t=eYnb6uC9Nqku2TRAz1AKtQ
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 05:26 |
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Pretty hilarious that Ukraine might have destroyed a Russian sub when Kim Jong Un was in town
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 05:49 |
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Charliegrs posted:Pretty hilarious that Ukraine might have destroyed a Russian sub when Kim Jong Un was in town I'm pretty sure he was in a different town much further away. One might even call it a different country.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 06:55 |
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The landing craft has now soaked a sea drone and a cruise missile attack. At this point it should be decorated as a hero ship for its efforts.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 07:13 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Was thinking the other day how growing up in the food shortages after WW2 affected my father and was wondering what the situation is in Ukraine for food, are the farmers still able to harvest this late into the conflict? are the people getting enough food imports despite russian sabotage? is the food variety and quality good still? I do not know about the quality aspect, but other than areas directly and adjacent to the front lines, farmers in Ukraine are still doing their thing. Directly it is a causing food scarcity (probably due to high prices) in areas of the Middle East and Africa who are big importers (think China is the current largest importer) of Ukrainian grains. Indirectly everyone is paying more for food. OddObserver posted:I hate to give it to Putin, but I think at least he doesn't throw in the "Judeo" for fundamentalist Christian nonsense. The former Soviet Union and its influence in/on Austria still plays a part, and a lot of those relations never went away. We can see this in part how the country is still mostly opposed to joining NATO and in certain circles been against arming Ukraine, and it is also worth mentioning they continue to import Russian gas. Which interestingly has not prevented energy costs from doubling/tripling in some areas.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 07:27 |
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Dick Ripple posted:...Which interestingly has not prevented energy costs from doubling/tripling in some areas. How is that so? I would think that it's basically as cheap as can possibly be since they are getting the fascist club discount?
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 08:32 |
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Good question. You get the usual answers of volatility, inflation, and outside markets.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 08:43 |
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https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1701720456708153637 good lord is it too much to ask for a politician not to mouth off about the intellectual capacity of countries with billions of people? this sure as poo poo makes it easy for propaganda to overemphasize the rightwing elements in zelensky's government e: the longer statement than that clip just seems odd: quote:China, India and Turkey are making money from the war in Ukraine, but “have weak intellectual potential” and “do not analyze the consequences of their steps,” said adviser to the head of the OP Podolyak. A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Sep 13, 2023 |
# ? Sep 13, 2023 09:36 |
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A big flaming stink posted:https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1701720456708153637 People who think that way also think everyone agrees with them
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 09:42 |
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A big flaming stink posted:[url]https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1701720456708153637[url] Good lord, that account. How much do you trust that translation and editing?
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 11:22 |
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A big flaming stink posted:https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1701720456708153637 Cool link to blatant CCP shill Podolyak is odd like that, he likes hot air declarations
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 11:26 |
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fatherboxx posted:Cool link to blatant CCP shill i'd like it if his oddness was less super racist
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 12:13 |
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There's one confirmed casualty from last night's rocket attack https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1701926113918808176
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 13:15 |
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Wow. That's a big hit https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1701784669266559392
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 13:18 |
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You sunk my blyatalship!
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 13:40 |
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e: nevermind, bad joke
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 13:44 |
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D-Pad posted:Also, according to Musk's biographer in the Atlantic the new contract they signed with the military after the issues actually gives the military ownership of some of the satellites and not just a contract for service: That's a bit misrepresented. Only 4 of the Starshield satellites have been launched, it's basically SpaceX offering to launch an entirely separate second network that would be owned and operated by DoD, and so far they bought a demonstration flight. I think it's more likely that the DoD will continue to operate on the SpaceX network, but will sign new, more binding contracts for it, the space force has been very enthusiastic about piggybacking on a commercial network with tens of thousands of satellites (and thus redundancy), instead of having to pay to launch their own.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 13:45 |
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LifeSunDeath posted:You sunk my blyatalship! https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1701912430404673842
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 13:46 |
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Putin has now lost Moscow, Minsk and Rostov to Ukrainians
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 13:57 |
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is that the first submarine hit by enemy fire in maybe like 80 years?
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 13:57 |
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ethanol posted:is that the first submarine hit by enemy fire in maybe like 80 years? Seems to be the Falklands war so closer to 40. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Santa_Fe_(S-21)
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 14:10 |
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If this continues they should rename the navy base as Sevastolol
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 14:17 |
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dr_rat posted:Seems to be the Falklands war so closer to 40. Interestingly Santa Fe was a WW2 boat, though, almost 40 years old when she was lost! Rostov na Donu was one of the newest Kilos however, commissioned just nine years ago. That's got to cause someone's demotion.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 14:28 |
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I heard the russians were installing new screen doors on their submarines to help avoid drone strikes.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 14:58 |
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A big flaming stink posted:i'd like it if his oddness was less super racist Try looking for a non biased translation source.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 15:12 |
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ummel posted:Try looking for a non biased translation source. To be fair it's not something a politician close to acting president should have said. But the description is obviously misleading. It's like someone saying "USA was intellectually deficient for going into Iraq" and someone reacting "He called all Americans dumb!"
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 15:31 |
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A big flaming stink posted:i'd like it if his oddness was less super racist In Russian the phrasing is maybe slightly less objectionable, and in context I'm sure he meant governments not Chinese and Indian people in general. Whenever he speaks about Belarus's involvement, he always prefaces it with a disclaimer that he separates Lukashenko's regime from regular Balarusians, but then just continues to say Belarus this and Belarus that. So maybe he said something similar here, too. Still, obviously, a very daft thing for an official to say about countries that at least pretend to be neutral in the conflict.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 15:37 |
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Nenonen posted:If this continues they should rename the navy base as Sevastolol The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > War in Ukraine CE: Sevastolol
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 16:19 |
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NY Times with an update on Russian ammo: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/us/politics/russia-sanctions-missile-production.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare quote:Russia has managed to overcome sanctions and export controls imposed by the West to expand its missile production beyond prewar levels, according to U.S., European and Ukrainian officials, leaving Ukraine especially vulnerable to intensified attacks in the coming months. I think if missile production isn't slowing down and Russia is indeed stockpiling munitions for mass strikes in Winter, the recent attacks on airbases and Sevastopol is even more significant. Forcing Russians to launch from further back and reducing the amount of missiles they can throw in the air at once will be critical.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 18:16 |
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https://twitter.com/BlackSky_Inc/status/1701994911887679598 https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1702003307038814391
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 18:17 |
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WarpedLichen posted:NY Times with an update on Russian ammo: Pretty sobering read especially on the artillery shells and the missles.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 19:55 |
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Sweden is looking to donating one to two divisions (16-18 planes each) of SAAB Gripen jets. The government will soon request the ministry of defense to report how fesable it would be. The Gripen is a 4.5 gen multi role jet fighter capable of operating from improvised air strips such as highways. The govt. is hoping for a short time frame with deliveries next year. There is political unity in supporting Ukraine militarily but the cost of donating upwards 36 modern fighters is eye watering for such a small country. My guess that manufacturing capacity and training of pilots will be the biggest hurdles to overcome. The plane is comparatively easy to maintain and can be done by a small ground crew with short training and on existing air fields.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 20:46 |
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Sigmund Fraud posted:Sweden is looking to donating one to two divisions (16-18 planes each) of SAAB Gripen jets. The government will soon request the ministry of defense to report how fesable it would be. The Gripen is a 4.5 gen multi role jet fighter capable of operating from improvised air strips such as highways. The govt. is hoping for a short time frame with deliveries next year. There is political unity in supporting Ukraine militarily but the cost of donating upwards 36 modern fighters is eye watering for such a small country. Fyi it was reported yesterday and today in Swedish media that the previously promised training on gripen is under way and Ukrainian pilots and techniciams are on site in Sweden for training. And yes the Gripen is literally designed to defend against Russia in terrain and climate very similar to Ukraine so it would be a very good fit. e: from a more cynical perspective, there's also the angle that Sweden's defence industry has tried for decades to get more export deals for Gripen, but have often lost out either due to the plane being untested in combat or because of the US waving enough carrots and sticks for countries to buy F-35s that they don't need instead. Sweden suddenly wanting to intervene in Libya by sending Gripen planes was, at the time, often described as a marketing ploy. So while sending 30 planes to Ukraine would be a staggering chunk of our defense budget, it's possible that there are talks about future contracts (either for the Ukrainian airforce or other countries) that could make it it slightly more palatable. For perspective, it'd be 1/3 of our fleet of Gripen. I'd be like the US sending 180 F-35s. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Sep 13, 2023 |
# ? Sep 13, 2023 20:59 |
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It's kind of amazing how Ukraine can lose a few Bradleys and Leopards and people think they should start negotiating away their land to end the war. But Russia loses a landing ship and a submarine in one night and no one bats an eye.
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 23:37 |
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WarpedLichen posted:NY Times with an update on Russian ammo: This is an interesting piece. I am having trouble connecting the dots between stifling Russia's imports/exports and squeezing their ability to build armaments. They talk a lot about high tech components for missiles, but shells don't need that. They do seem to have missed a big piece of the puzzle tho: quote:Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said. The amount of grift in the West is substantial. I find it hard to believe that it takes 10x as much resources to make the same shell "safer". Shells are supposed to be cheap, that's the whole point. Cpt_Obvious fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Sep 13, 2023 |
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there's a cheaper 155mm round the us produces around $1000 idk why the article went with that one
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 14:14 |
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Cpt_Obvious posted:This is an interesting piece. I am having trouble connecting the dots between stifling Russia's imports/exports and squeezing their ability to build armaments. They talk a lot about high tech components for missiles, but shells don't need that. We both made shells for the Nazis, but mine worked damnit!
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# ? Sep 14, 2023 00:04 |