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Was St. Nazaire the raid where upon return, the commandos were asked, "Nevermind all that- did you bring back the Thompsons"?
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So when does Russia end up just....not having a fleet in the Black Sea anymore? They've been getting spanked on the open waters for a while, and now they're getting meritorious promotions to submarines while in port.
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Must be a real entertaining day over in Chantilly.
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bird food bathtub posted:So when does Russia end up just....not having a fleet in the Black Sea anymore? They've been getting spanked on the open waters for a while, and now they're getting meritorious promotions to submarines while in port. There hasn't been a lot of actual damage to major ships, there was the Moskva sunk, the Ivan Khurs supposedly suffered damage but was towed to an eastern port so it wasn't seen if there really was any, a few "patrol boats"(essentially speedboats with machineguns) have been sunk, some landing craft have been damaged and sunk and now a Kilo has suffered unspecified damage. But they've still got a dozen missile frigates and corvettes, a half dozen subs and a bunch of other ships of varying types in their Black Sea fleet. As great as it is to see this damage, it's nowhere near destroying said fleet. What's probably more important about these strikes is that they might cause the Russians to either: Relocate air defense systems to Sevastopol and away from the front lines/other soft targets or Relocate ships away from Sevastopol to other Black Sea ports where they'll have a longer round trip when going to hit Ukraine, which might make the missile barrages a bit less intense(which might be more likely to happen if this strike also damaged some important port facilities that might make it more difficult to berth and service ships in Sevastopol).
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Now that's morale building confidence https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1701944950198333750
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Ukraine Thread: What do you mean "It happens"? There's a dump in Putin's pants bro!
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Russian Kilo stars in movie Das Poot, in theaters now
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Flyinglemur posted:Russian Kilo stars in movie Das Poot, in theaters now Just Putin slowly making GBS threads himself on the docks as his sub burns a'la Capt.-Lt. Henrich Lehmann-Willenbrock from Das Boot And instead of a Spitfire its a cardboard drone.
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https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1702003307038814391 Looks like the Kilo is, if not a total loss, then definitely going to be getting welded back together for the rest of the war.
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another angle https://x.com/BlackSky_Inc/status/1701994911887679598?s=20 
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Sep 13, 2023 18:12
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lol if they actually destroyed the kilo
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Herstory Begins Now posted:lol if they actually destroyed the kilo It was worth 2.2 American units!
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Madurai posted:When's the last time a cutting out mission was performed on a docked ship? US Civil War? I was going to say the Mayaguez Incident might count but that wasn't docked.
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Tunicate posted:It was worth 2.2 American units! 
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1702003307038814391 Keep on drawing down from those limited parts stores, guys!
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That's one Kalibr shooter out of the war. Good.
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PurpleXVI posted:Relocate ships away from Sevastopol to other Black Sea ports where they'll have a longer round trip when going to hit Ukraine, which might make the missile barrages a bit less intense(which might be more likely to happen if this strike also damaged some important port facilities that might make it more difficult to berth and service ships in Sevastopol). They have already done this. Almost all of their ships are in better protected harbors in Russia. These two were hit because they were drydocked, because Sevastopol is where the only large, operational drydocks in Black Sea are. PurpleXVI posted:Looks like the Kilo is, if not a total loss, then definitely going to be getting welded back together for the rest of the war. If the fire didn't spread inside the sub, that might look worse than it is. Modern subs are covered with acoustic dampening materials that are usually very flammable, which is generally not a problem (what with being submerged), but this one was in a drydock, so it burned. Of course, being in a drydock probably also meant that all the hatches were open, so lol it probably burned throughout.
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Tuna-Fish posted:These two were hit because they were drydocked, because Sevastopol is where the only large, operational drydocks in Black Sea A bit aspirational at the moment to be sure but it'd be pretty great.
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Submerging in submarine that had the anechoic tiles burn off the pressure hull is gonna be a no from me, dawg.
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From what I heard, this latest attack was 10 storm sparrows + 3 drone boats in a single combined attack. None of the boats connected, and only 3 of the storm sparrows hit, but that was enough to end the Kilo and the sub.
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MrYenko posted:Submerging in submarine that had the anechoic tiles burn off the pressure hull is gonna be a no from me, dawg. Did that burn hot enough to gently caress up the heat treatment of the steel hull? I don't know but I'm sure as hell not gonna be the one to find out.
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PurpleXVI posted:There hasn't been a lot of actual damage to major ships, there was the Moskva sunk, the Ivan Khurs supposedly suffered damage but was towed to an eastern port so it wasn't seen if there really was any, a few "patrol boats"(essentially speedboats with machineguns) have been sunk, some landing craft have been damaged and sunk and now a Kilo has suffered unspecified damage. All you need to do to remove the Russian fleet from the Black Sea is make the commanders believe its too risky to be there. The Ukrainians are doing an admirable job of this.
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Arrath posted:Did that burn hot enough to gently caress up the heat treatment of the steel hull? I don't know but I'm sure as hell not gonna be the one to find out. Does warthunder have submarines yet? Could you honey pot a post on there and get the details?
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A Kilo? That's a heavy loss.
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Parkingtigers posted:A Kilo? That's a heavy loss. That's a common misconception, a Kilo is a massive loss
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Ukraine's gonna be flush after scoring that key.
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what is the technical term for losing a submarine over land?
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OMG OMG OMG I CAN POST THE ORIGINAL
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Herstory Begins Now posted:what is the technical term for losing a submarine over land? Überseebootheitsbewältigung
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bird food bathtub posted:A bit aspirational at the moment to be sure but it'd be pretty great. I think there are two functioning large drydocks left. Of course, putting any ships in them might be seen as pretty risky now...
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Tuna-Fish posted:I think there are two functioning large drydocks left. Of course, putting any ships in them might be seen as pretty risky now... I guess the disadvantage is that they can't, well, sail away from the dock? Should probably be pretty similar AD. Also I couldn't make the awful and obvious Rostov-na-dne joke.
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golden bubble posted:From what I heard, this latest attack was 10 storm sparrows + 3 drone boats in a single combined attack. None of the boats connected, and only 3 of the storm sparrows hit, but that was enough to end the Kilo and the sub. Goddamn, wonder if more poo poo hit if those two would have been 'more hosed' or if they had other targets on the menu?
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It's extremely funny that arguably this whole thing got started on keeping the Black Sea port for the Russian Navy... and the Russian Navy has been repeatedly proving itself largely impotent and gotten a bunch of ships hosed to boot.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:what is the technical term for losing a submarine over land? "Hilarious".
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Arrath posted:Did that burn hot enough to gently caress up the heat treatment of the steel hull? I don't know but I'm sure as hell not gonna be the one to find out. Even if it didn’t affect the material strength engulfing it in flames is going to cause things to expand in ways that submarines generally don’t.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:OMG OMG OMG I CAN POST THE ORIGINAL "Nyet! We know exactly where it is!"
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The Door Frame posted:That's a common misconception, a Kilo is a massive loss I appreciates this
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The kilo is no big loss. Kadyrov has plenty of kilos to spare.
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I guess the Russians were correct about Zelensky being an addict considering he just smashed a kilo.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:what is the technical term for losing a submarine over land? It's like shooting subs in a dry dock!
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