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SKULL.GIF posted:I've seen this mentioned a few times and it's always struck me as weird. If I'm a defense guru with a strong defensive team, I'm going to tell my mediocre offense to just bomb it and try to score, since on defense I know I have (relatively) good odds of stuffing the offense or scoring a turnover. If the offense can get ahead then your defense can play more aggressively -- if the offense is just barely even, or falling behind, then there's that much more pressure on the defense to be perfect every drive. Defensive Coaches do not want turnovers, as Turnovers means short fields for the opposing offense, and give them less room to work. It does not make sense to me personally, but it is like a generally well known thing that most defensive coaches do not loving like risky offenses, and want ball control and safe offenses so in their mind the scores stay low and close and they believe they can out execute. This is largely bullshit, as turnovers are not optimal, but the benefits of pushing the ball down the field are massive, and often outweigh the relatively rare outcome of turnover.
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Brrrmph posted:This thread could use more Bears talk. no bears fans are talking about the 2023 chicago bears we're talking about the 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2021 and mostly the 2022 bears. It's the same poo poo every year (except 2018)
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GOTTA WIN THE TURNOVER BATTLE BOB CAN'T HAVE FIELDS OUT HERE HOLDING IT LIKE A LOAF OF BREAD
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Like the key thing that defensive coaches always seem to miss is that becoming safe and predictable is often more dangerous than any individual risky throw. Most Pick sixes are thrown on loving lovely short passing routes. an deep pass interception outside of FG range is functionally barely different than a safe gameplan of run run pass leading to a 3-7play drive and Punt.
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Dexo posted:Like the key thing that defensive coaches always seem to miss is that becoming safe and predictable is often more dangerous than any individual risky throw. Right? Monday night Allen threw a deep pass to Diggs that was picked off at the 1 yard line. The Jets went 19 yards and punted after that.
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HootTheOwl posted:Nagy will be availabile in a few weeks to QB coach fields. I don’t think it’s Nagy’s fault that Kelce got hurt and none of the Chiefs WRs can catch.
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https://twitter.com/startkyIeorton/status/1701990995091501514 If you are gonna flame out Justin, at least flame out spectacularly. https://twitter.com/CEmma670/status/1701987520181903712 lmao lol laffo
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Dr. Lunchables posted:I’d bet the Jets would probably offer a couple picks to squander for Fields One poo poo o-line and hack fraud Packers OC to another. I guess he'd have a better defense at least.
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trevorreznik posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiiK21VzI_o This was a nice breakdown, thanks for sharing. Everything looked so bad on Sunday that I think I was too kind to Fields. He really had a rough one out there. Everything about this offense needs to be more aggressive. Edit: Claypool should absolutely be inactive for a least this week.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Two divisional opponents just played each other and one of them looks like a disaster in the making, no shock there's going to be a lot of discussion about that particular team as half the thread can weigh in. They don't play each other until week 15 lol
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C-Euro posted:They don't play each other until week 15 lol Lol what whack rear end scheduling is that
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I don’t think it’s Nagy’s fault that Kelce got hurt and none of the Chiefs WRs can catch. No, but Nagy called an awful jet sweep on third and the ballgame
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MacheteZombie posted:Lol what whack rear end scheduling is that And then they play again in week 17! 5/6 of Detroit's divisional games are after their week 9 bye, I'm a little nervous about that.
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This is the bizarro equivalent of when the Lions missed the playoffs by losing like every game when the entire rest of the NFC North was starting backup QBs and the Lions were in first place. Now it's each week the Lions play a team missing their best players... and winning.
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SirPablo posted:Hey Vikings play in like 30 hours again. Should be a good game, I'm looking forward to it. And not just because my work schedule has made it so that the only live games I can watch this year are TNF 
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Off-topic but I feel like sharing this onion article, they kinda got our asses tbh. C-Euro posted:And then they play again in week 17! I'm pretty happy with the Lions schedule, they're playing a LOT of indoor games down the stretch.
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MJeff posted:Off-topic but I feel like sharing this onion article, they kinda got our asses tbh. Cowardly lions hiding from the elements
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MacheteZombie posted:Cowardly lions hiding from the elements We have buildings now, because it's not the past.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Should be a good game, I'm looking forward to it. And not just because my work schedule has made it so that the only live games I can watch this year are TNF Kirk is going to die against that D-line vs our O-Line
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In retrospect the Bears taking a bullet for the Packers didn't just stop at trading for Claypool, it was also by poaching Luke Getsy away from Green Bay ... which directly led to Tom Clements coming out of retirement, which reportedly played a huge part in completely overhauling Jordan Love's throwing mechanics for the better.
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It all makes sense if you view this as Poles selling the McCaskeys by telling them he'll re-create the magic of 2006. Bring in a defensive coach who will run the soft cover-2 zone every play. Spent big money to sign his Urlacher and Briggs this offseason. Even wasted a 3rd round pick trying to draft the next Hester.
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Bird in a Blender posted:Eberflus is really underwhelming me, my god. At this point I'm expecting him to get fired by the end of the season, maybe even halfway through the season. He feels like Trestman 2.0. Just in over his head. I'd say he should be fired, but money matters to the McCaskeys. What got Trestman fired was enormous outrage by the fanbase. If this team wins 4-5 games and is getting blown out regularly, I don't see how he can survive. Especially when they're begging for taxpayer handouts for a new stadium. The bigger question will be on Poles. If this looks directionless, might be best to write him off as a lemon and let the new President find his own guy.
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Niwrad posted:The bigger question will be on Poles. If this looks directionless, might be best to write him off as a lemon and let the new President find his own guy. I would prefer the new president have an edict that requires he keep Poles around for at least one more coaching hire, and the new coach should be required to hang onto Fields for at least one year.
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fishing with the fam posted:I would prefer the new president have an edict that requires he keep Poles around for at least one more coaching hire, and the new coach should be required to hang onto Fields for at least one year. The Chicago Bears Special.
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I feel like firing any GM after 2 years is too much. The team was pretty crappy when he got them. He's made some questionable and outright bad moves, but some other stuff that will hopefully pay off. The coaching just seems straight up bad right now though. No creativity, guys out there barely giving a poo poo, and just some absolutely clueless poo poo.
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