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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

wandler20 posted:

Is Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer?

(He's gonna be on that Netflix series Quarterback for S2)

Yeah.

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Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

wandler20 posted:

Is Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer?

(He's gonna be on that Netflix series Quarterback for S2)

Any word on who the other QBs will be?

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

wandler20 posted:

Is Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer?

(He's gonna be on that Netflix series Quarterback for S2)

He wants to promote his wife's podcast.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

Mega64 posted:

Any word on who the other QBs will be?

Not yet, no one seems to want to do it.

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization


mcmagic posted:

He wants to promote his wife's podcast.

Thanks for promoting Kelly's Morning After Podcast, as heard on Apple and Spotify.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Kalli posted:

Absolutely not.

He's a 1 time pro bowler, who's got maybe a season or two you could argue he was a top 5 QB.

Good choice for the show though

If they drag his corpse to another Super Bowl he could get in

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


wandler20 posted:

Is Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer?

(He's gonna be on that Netflix series Quarterback for S2)

Stafford is decently far below the average on the PFR monitor: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm

Not having any All Pros and only one Pro Bowl really hurts, but that he went to the Rams and immediately won a championship gives him a really strong argument that he would've had a much better career (or at least, public reception) if not for being on the Lions for so long. His counting stats are decent enough.

That "average HoF QB" number (currently 108) is also gonna shoot up quite a lot when Brady, Brees, and Rodgers goes in.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

SKULL.GIF posted:

Stafford is decently far below the average on the PFR monitor: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm

Not having any All Pros and only one Pro Bowl really hurts, but that he went to the Rams and immediately won a championship gives him a really strong argument that he would've had a much better career (or at least, public reception) if not for being on the Lions for so long. His counting stats are decent enough.

That "average HoF QB" number (currently 108) is also gonna shoot up quite a lot when Brady, Brees, and Rodgers goes in.

Philip and Matt Ryan are right on that border huh

Forrest on Fire
Nov 23, 2012

CharlestheHammer posted:

If they drag his corpse to another Super Bowl he could get in

His career and Eli Manning's career look a lot alike with the main difference being Eli has 3 more pro bowls and 1 more ring

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

stafford can get into the hall of fame if he has a good season this year and next. if he doesn't play that much he won't. accrued stats and a ring would be enough without other accolades but he doesn't have enough of the stats to weather the modern qb storm if he retired today

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

wandler20 posted:

Not yet, no one seems to want to do it.

Lamar reportedly declined, so not him.

players I'd be interested in would be Fields, Goff, Ridder. I think these guys have potentially pretty interesting stories. Like Kirk Cousins was way more interesting to watch than Mahomes imo

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

MAGNetic AttITUDE


Lions Twitter is saying Goff also declined


Don't forget Stafford's also been the QB for the only two 1900+ yard receiving seasons in league history. That said, as much as I love the guy for his time in Detroit, he's not getting in without more hardware.

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."

tinstaach posted:

Lions Twitter is saying Goff also declined


Don't forget Stafford's also been the QB for the only two 1900+ yard receiving seasons in league history. That said, as much as I love the guy for his time in Detroit, he's not getting in without more hardware.

I think if he had followed up the super bowl with a good year he could have a chance, but that dog poo poo year really halted his momentum.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
I just checked the NFL Sunday Ticket and they have the compressed versions of the games up. I believe some were asking if this was part of it.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

AndrewP posted:

Lamar reportedly declined, so not him.

players I'd be interested in would be Fields, Goff, Ridder. I think these guys have potentially pretty interesting stories. Like Kirk Cousins was way more interesting to watch than Mahomes imo

Agree Mahomes was the least compelling part. "Simply be a football savant who is naturally incredible at every physical and mental aspect of the game" Hope they are able to work in more fringe guys like Mariota

Russ and Payton butting heads could be funny but Russ wouldn't actually let them show anything that makes him look bad

Would also be happy to watch Herbert doing whatever the hell Herbert does every day

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



As far as QB's who mostly overlap Stafford I don't think he has a case before Cam Newton or Matt Ryan, let alone the actual guys who will be hall of famers.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Forrest on Fire posted:

His career and Eli Manning's career look a lot alike with the main difference being Eli has 3 more pro bowls and 1 more ring

Eli shouldn’t get in either imo. He will though.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

AndrewP posted:

chicken box or GTFO

e: would also accept lake trout

Was thinking pit beef but that works too

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

ngl that Chiefs shirt is cool as heck

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

wandler20 posted:

Not yet, no one seems to want to do it.

Annoyed me when Dak turned it down and people jumped on him for it, thinking it made him look like he couldn't handle the pressure of being on a TV show. For fucks sake he's the QB for the Dallas Cowboys, hated by everyone nationally and his own fanbase (albeit for different reasons), and this was all BEFORE the tattoo poo poo.

He made the right call, he's got enough heads up his rear end. I think more QBs should turn the show down, even if it was an interesting watch.

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

AndrewP posted:

Lamar reportedly declined, so not him.

players I'd be interested in would be Fields, Goff, Ridder. I think these guys have potentially pretty interesting stories. Like Kirk Cousins was way more interesting to watch than Mahomes imo

Honestly as a story Zach Wilson would be (in theory) incredibly interesting to follow. There's gotta be a lot going on there.

Also maybe one of the rookie QBs. You've got an older QB who finally found success after being stuck on bad Detroit teams for years in Stafford, so you could contrast that with a fresh-freshed kid hoping to not flame out

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray
What is this show that everyone's talking about

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Eli shouldn’t get in either imo. He will though.

It's pretty much rings over everything else, tbh. Which is unfair if you're trying to actually evaluate a player's ability but it is what it is. Plus it's the hall of fame, not the hall of playing football really good I guess

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮

Play posted:

What is this show that everyone's talking about

Quarterback on Netflix

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

I just remembered that during the preseason the Jets let Aaron call some plays and one worked well, where Zach hit a deep throw that Aaron was hoping he would target. I wonder if something like that might help Wilson play better.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you

Kalli posted:

As far as QB's who mostly overlap Stafford I don't think he has a case before Cam Newton or Matt Ryan, let alone the actual guys who will be hall of famers.

He definitely has a case over both of them. For one, Matt Ryans lasting legacy is 28-3 and well...

MrLogan
Feb 4, 2004

Rivers was better than Ben or Eli, but he's the least likely to make it into the hall out of those three.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Edward Mass posted:

Quarterback on Netflix

Whoa this happened last year too? Where the hell have I been

Gonna check it out I guess

Nodoze posted:

He definitely has a case over both of them. For one, Matt Ryans lasting legacy is 28-3 and well...

Yeah Ryan is actually above Ben on the metrics someone posted above, but one will get in easily and the other (probably, but who knows) won't and the reason is fairly obvious like I said.

Quarterbacks without rings in the hall: Dan Marino, Fran Tarkenton, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Dan Fouts, Ken Anderson and John Brodie.

Hasn't happened in a while, and all of those guys had stronger careers than Ryan (imo and with the caveat that I know very little about John Brodie)

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



I don't think Matt Ryan is a hof'er. I just think Stafford is pretty far from being one.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
Update on the Panthers G:

https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/1702048872682381429?s=20

ozymandius1024
Mar 15, 2006

You don't yank on the Spine of God

:suicide:

Black Sunshine
Apr 4, 2004

LEFT 4 DEAD IS A LOT LIKE FOOTBALL - I JERK OFF TO BOTH

AndrewP posted:


e: would also accept lake trout


sharknado slashfic posted:

Was thinking pit beef but that works too

Triggering The Wire flashbacks ITT




I also can't help but think they missed an opportunity to have a $10 buffet and an escort flyer on the Vegas shirt.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp
Staff unfortunately had the best years of his career wasted on some REALLY bad Lions teams that nobody but us sickos in Detroit bothered to watch. I fully believe that had he gone to another team earlier, or had Lions bothered to get their poo poo together before he left, he'd have the stats and popularity to be a strong candidate for the Hall — but as it stands now, the only way he's getting in is if he wins a second Superbowl.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005








Thankfully Zevala has looked competent. Imagine he moves to left guard (played besides Ickey in college) and Cade Mays wins the starting RG until Corbett comes back. it's a blow, but they actually have the depth to absorb this assuming no more injuries to starters which lol. lmao.

Was cool to have a good offensive line for a game.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/therapistLloyd/status/1701994007453454452/

Borsche69
May 8, 2014

sharknado slashfic posted:

Guessing they went with blue crabs as the laziest possible option for Baltimore

Yup, I'll still probably get one though

i was worried it'd just be the crab cake on its own

Borsche69
May 8, 2014

any marylanders in here ever have stuffed ham

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

"are PHILLY neighbors GAY?!?!??!?!?!?!?"

maybe they are, who cares?:shobon:

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8


The rapist Lloyd

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
lol I wonder what he did this time.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1702070074767532307?s=20

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Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Cool, I look forward to the leak in 12 minutes

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