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ili
Jul 26, 2003


I tried champix and nicotine gum and whatnot, the only thing that worked for me was going cold turkey while reading the easy way to stop smoking by Allen Carr. Just kinda brainwashes you into not wanting to do it any more. Every other product was like quitting sucks it's bullshit you have to do this so here's some stuff what for to ease your noble suffering, but old mate gets in your head and goes fucken jeez mate you don't need the old lungbusters anyway they're just holding you back ya silly oval office, you don't need to give up smoking you just need to realise it loving sucks balls and you don't actually have to keep doing it.

Shame he never wrote a book called the easy way to stop being a stupid racist oval office and unban NVJ hey.

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well why not
Feb 10, 2009




You could also try my dad’s method (having a huge chunk of lung chopped out and then radiation therapy). Up to you.

ili
Jul 26, 2003


I'd go with the stop smoking book first I reckon, you can find a free pdf online somewhere and even though it's not as compelling a read as say Wake or Ripper (both by Shelley Burr, very highly recommended) it's still better than surgery and cancer treatments.

BoonyPC
Feb 19, 2007

Jestery posted:

Well

Turns out in the midst of a teaching crisis, having over a decade of experience as a teacher aide counts for diddly squat for RPL in a teaching degree

I've seen several articles on how things need to change and I agree.

I'm not sure I'm going to go back and finish, for me the prac is the biggest barrier, I'm older, have kids and really can't afford to not get paid for 10-12 weeks. When I started things weren't so bad but since then Cost of living etc has put a big stress on us, like most.

I feel apprenticeships would be beneficial, I don't think you can really beat hands on experience.

Airstream Driver
May 6, 2009

I come from a whole family of teachers and they've pretty much all quit in the last 5 years because of how much it sucks to be a teacher now so hats off to you if you're trying to become one.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

My sister is changing careers away from teaching after 12ish years.

Looking forward to the shock on her face when she actually works normal human hours, for 5 days a week, with some WFH. She's nervous because it's a big change, but I don't think she's cottoned on to how much of her life and time she's going to get back yet.

HazCat
May 4, 2009

Jestery posted:

I remember walking into work, unbeknownst to r-u-ok day, and being ambushed by all my co workers who all shouted "ARE YOU OK!" as I was putting my bag down

I wasn't having a great morning and being jump scared as I walked to my post was the opposite of care , really coloured my view of the public and mental health vis a vi John Q public

My partner killed himself in 2020, and the day I returned to work (after 2 months of total isolation in my apartment, thanks covid!) was R U OK day, which meant I walked in to a break room full of the most garish branded bullshit and a bunch of coworkers desperately trying to pretend that none of it existed.

I have some very strong, extremely negative opinions about R U OK day.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
That sounds horrible HazCat

The performative "days" like this or earth day or whatever just seem like so much more hollow marketing than anything that can effect change

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

starkebn posted:

That sounds horrible HazCat

The performative "days" like this or earth day or whatever just seem like so much more hollow marketing than anything that can effect change

Are you trying to tell me the nestle corporation doesn't actually care about my mental wellbeing?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Dammit I really like the chicken parmi shapes

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Wizard Master posted:

I actually think R U OK Day is bull poo poo - if the government actually cared about mental health they’d invest in secure housing and affordable health care.
yah it's tokenistic bullshit

Serak
Jun 18, 2000

Approaching Midnight.

bowmore posted:

yah it's tokenistic bullshit

as with everything, it's not that R U OK? Day itself is conceptually tokenistic bullshit, it's that every corporate implementation of it (the only way that 99% of people have ever interacted with it) is tokenistic bullshit.

Which might be splitting hairs, but just understand who the culprit here is

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
sending thoughts and prayers to everyone in a toxic workplace environment that has a break room plastered in RUOK poo poo today

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Serak posted:

as with everything, it's not that R U OK? Day itself is conceptually tokenistic bullshit, it's that every corporate implementation of it (the only way that 99% of people have ever interacted with it) is tokenistic bullshit.

Which might be splitting hairs, but just understand who the culprit here is
same/same

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Nothing better than being asked point blank R U OK the second I see anybody in extremely uncomfortable or inappropriate environments for discussing mental health when I have a whole truckload of issues I am currently struggling through


It's effectively the same as giving to charity so the giver can pat themselves on the back for being a good person. "I asked, therefore my work is done"

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

HazCat posted:

My partner killed himself in 2020, and the day I returned to work (after 2 months of total isolation in my apartment, thanks covid!) was R U OK day, which meant I walked in to a break room full of the most garish branded bullshit and a bunch of coworkers desperately trying to pretend that none of it existed.


That had to be rough.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Serak posted:

as with everything, it's not that R U OK? Day itself is conceptually tokenistic bullshit, it's that every corporate implementation of it (the only way that 99% of people have ever interacted with it) is tokenistic bullshit.

Which might be splitting hairs, but just understand who the culprit here is

Yep. Same with corporate culture latching onto mindfulness as a solution to employee mental health. Making the employees mental issue the focus and responsibility to change and fix... instead of perhaps addressing workplace issues that cause those mental issues. That might require work by the company instead of pushing responsibility onto the pleb. Can't have THAT.

Fuckers.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


I live with clinical depression and I have nothing but lovely mean venomous things to say about R U OK day and how it's implemented

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Jezza of OZPOS posted:

sending thoughts and prayers to everyone in a toxic workplace environment that has a break room plastered in RUOK poo poo today

Hey at least we get cake

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
i was asked why i wasn't wearing my bright shirt, nobody has asked me if i am okay

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Carth Dookie posted:

Yep. Same with corporate culture latching onto mindfulness as a solution to employee mental health. Making the employees mental issue the focus and responsibility to change and fix... instead of perhaps addressing workplace issues that cause those mental issues. That might require work by the company instead of pushing responsibility onto the pleb. Can't have THAT.

Fuckers.

Yeah, the whole "self-care" and "resilience" industry is just about being able to squeeze more out of employees instead of providing a good work/life balance.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Self care is understanding the power of "I'm taking a mental health day" when you don't want to go into work.

Serak
Jun 18, 2000

Approaching Midnight.

Megabound posted:

Self care is understanding the power of "I'm taking a mental health day" when you don't want to go into work.

what do I do the other 345 days of the year though

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
I just say im sick when i need a mental health day

I dont know how well saying i need a mental health day would go down

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I would love to take a mental health day if i hadn't run out of sick days already

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
R u ok day actually used to be r u gay day but they had to change it

ErKeL
Jun 18, 2013

Non Compos Mentis posted:

I just say im sick when i need a mental health day

I dont know how well saying i need a mental health day would go down

When I was a manager I'd cop it on the chin if someone called out saying they needed it but I never had anyone give me that in those words. The only time I've had something like that this a girl on my team called in tears to say she'd just broken up with her boyfriend and didn't feel she had the energy to work.

Probably the wrong thing to say but I told her she didn't need to give me a reason and that I hoped it works out for her.
Think I've always been pretty relaxed on people dropping a shift as long as they give me some notice that's all I can hope for.

I know other managers get heated about it and expect you to prove you're sick with a medical certificate etc but maybe on the other hand try to make the workplace not so soul crushing they want to bail.

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?
When I worked at Energy Australia I had a manager there that was THE WORST when it came to sick leave. One day she heard me puking in the toilet and demanded that I go home because I wasn't well, then while I was getting my bag from my desk she came over and demanded that I go get a doctor's certificate. About a month later I took a lot of pleasure in giving her a no notice resignation right before the busiest part of the year.

Whoforthenwhat
Sep 20, 2009

Carth Dookie posted:

Yep. Same with corporate culture latching onto mindfulness as a solution to employee mental health. Making the employees mental issue the focus and responsibility to change and fix... instead of perhaps addressing workplace issues that cause those mental issues. That might require work by the company instead of pushing responsibility onto the pleb. Can't have THAT.

Fuckers.

Pretty much.

Have a cup cake and go back to your poo poo job that doesn't cover your rent or living expenses, oh by the way we had to let go a few people (and some others quit) and no we aren't back filling so just have to work a bit harder for the same pay.

Also why aren't you wearing your corporate mandated bright coloured shirt?

The original idea was great, then corporate got its hands on it and did what they do best.

Now get back to work.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


R U OK?

Why's that, is something about me off or you think I'm projecting that I am not ok, how about mind your own business, Corporate Overlord?

BastardAus
Jun 3, 2003
Chunder from Down Under

kirbysuperstar posted:

Dammit I really like the chicken parmi shapes

There's a what now? Ho-ly poo poo.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Gotta say, Fat Jaks make some really merely-okay burgers for being so goddamn expensive. They're like McDonalds, but three times the price.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


R U OK day, but it's just a coin collection bucket that if you make a gold coin donation you get to tell your boss to go and get hosed directly to their face

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Infinitum posted:

R U OK day, but it's just a coin collection bucket that if you make a gold coin donation you get to tell your boss to go and get hosed directly to their face

You collect gold coin donations from everyone in the office, pour the collection into a sock, and then use it to beat that toxic piece of poo poo in the office who makes everyone's life miserable.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You collect gold coin donations from everyone in the office, pour the collection into a sock, and then use it to beat that toxic piece of poo poo in the office who makes everyone's life miserable.

This.

BastardAus
Jun 3, 2003
Chunder from Down Under

Whoforthenwhat posted:

]Have a cup cake and go back to your poo poo job that doesn't cover your rent or living expenses, oh by the way we had to let go a few people (and some others quit) and no we aren't back filling so just have to work a bit harder for the same pay.

We have these networked printers that 'know' where you are in the building so when you print something, all you should do is walk to the nearest printer and scan your building key and out come the documents.
One day, I was collecting from my printer and there was a wodge of documents in between my stuff. Some rando's very detailed tax return. Feeling only a bit guilty I skimmed the first couple of pages and he's got five properties. Five.
All these detailed tax write-offs attached straight after the property listings, and I think "I have an ID thief's loving goldmine here".

So I look up the name of this bloke in the intranet and find his desk number a few floors up.
I bowl up and see this weedy middle management type, completely banal looking, demeanour to match, and say "Hey I think these are yours, I found them in a printer down on level 1."
He just glances at the top of the stack, looks at me like I'm delivering a coffee, and says "Oh… thanks." Straight back to the screen and not a word to say otherwise. oval office's loving loaded, working a based gig in boring af middle management and cold as ice.

You just never know.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




disgusting

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

BastardAus posted:

We have these networked printers that 'know' where you are in the building so when you print something, all you should do is walk to the nearest printer and scan your building key and out come the documents.
One day, I was collecting from my printer and there was a wodge of documents in between my stuff. Some rando's very detailed tax return. Feeling only a bit guilty I skimmed the first couple of pages and he's got five properties. Five.
All these detailed tax write-offs attached straight after the property listings, and I think "I have an ID thief's loving goldmine here".

So I look up the name of this bloke in the intranet and find his desk number a few floors up.
I bowl up and see this weedy middle management type, completely banal looking, demeanour to match, and say "Hey I think these are yours, I found them in a printer down on level 1."
He just glances at the top of the stack, looks at me like I'm delivering a coffee, and says "Oh… thanks." Straight back to the screen and not a word to say otherwise. oval office's loving loaded, working a based gig in boring af middle management and cold as ice.

You just never know.

you should put a potato up his car exhaust

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

kirbysuperstar posted:

you should put a potato up his car exhaust

Leave my car alone.

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Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
any court in the land would rule it justifiable homocide

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