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Antigravitas posted:I have never felt more uncomfortable online Your online experience has been pretty tame.
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armpit_enjoyer posted:Donald Tusk, August 2022: "Nobody with anti-abortion views will be an opposition candidate next year" Yeah but Giertych owns PiS politicians on twitter, so PO can have a little fascist, as a treat
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# ? Aug 30, 2023 09:26 |
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Looks like they're trying to do something with the Giertych controversy. His daughter is being interviewed and she's guarantees that her mom and her sisters will "keep an eye on him" so we don't have to worry our pretty little heads about women's' rights.
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# ? Aug 30, 2023 11:06 |
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Mokotow posted:Looks like they're trying to do something with the Giertych controversy. His daughter is being interviewed and she's guarantees that her mom and her sisters will "keep an eye on him" so we don't have to worry our pretty little heads about women's' rights. Oh cool hey who dropped this
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# ? Aug 30, 2023 11:19 |
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:Different, but related phenomena: Yeah. Polonia in the US is one of the worst about it, since there's a lot of really old emigration, like pre-world wars, leaving a lot of people that are really detached from anything but broad fantasies about the country. There's a certain kind of brainrot that sometimes hits at 3+ generation of immigrants where you're long past concerns of fitting in the new place, they're past anyone in the family trying to teach them the language (and by extension, any cultural contact being long dormant) but they've got this heritage that can become *their thing*. Think of the Plastic Paddies, but with extra layers of solipsist detachment due to being outside of the anglosphere. In a true horseshoe theory fashion, there's two ways this can develop. The first is that sort of right wingish turn, because that kind of person living with a vague fantasy of a place on another hemisphere, is naturally more vulnerable to the conservative golden age/exceptionalist rhethoric, leading to Trad Values (leaning on the cultural baggage that makes the place feel unique and not just one more country). In case of Poles in the US it sure doesn't help that a lot of them live in midwest and that those OG old emigrants were fleeing either Partitions or communist rule, so the whole thing was extra primed for passing down nationalist sentiments. The second way is using one's ancestry to crowbar one's way to the cool progressive crowd as a self-proclaimed cultural expert, steadily falling down a rabbit hole of increasingly mad twitter manifestos over things the home country doesn't actually care about all that much. Of course this isn't meant to generalize all immigrant communities or something, it's just a specific flavor of terribleness.
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goblin week posted:Oh cool No you see this was before COVID. Also surprised to see Maciej Giertych, his dad, is still around. Mildly fascinated with what he expected to happen
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# ? Aug 30, 2023 14:11 |
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Mokotow posted:No you see this was before COVID. The same thing Americans always expect when they go abroad That the local savages will prostrate themselves before the civilized man who is bringing gifts of wisdom and dollar
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# ? Aug 30, 2023 14:13 |
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When Stefan Molyneux went to Poland he felt he had finally found his people at the Independence March. Robert would have felt right at home there as well.
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Mokotow posted:Mildly fascinated with what he expected to happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EOwiBlno0
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# ? Aug 30, 2023 14:51 |
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[steinrokkan posted:The same thing Americans always expect when they go abroad It's absolutely possible for diaspora members to be greeted warmly in their ancestors' homeland. They just need to be elected the President or become Olympic champions or Hollywood superstars or something substantially more impressive than being an American.
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Mokotow posted:Mildly fascinated with what he expected to happen steinrokkan posted:That the local savages will prostrate themselves before the civilized man who is bringing gifts of wisdom and dollar
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# ? Aug 30, 2023 15:03 |
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Honestly surprised, I remember this poo poo from the early 90s but assumed naively we’re passed that, yet, 30 years on, here we are
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friend of putin and EU Alyiev's Azerbaijan is sending some interesting convoys to the border of Armenia https://twitter.com/301arm/status/1698738502886703367?s=20
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Lichtenstein posted:Polonia in the US is one of the worst about it, since there's a lot of really old emigration, like pre-world wars, leaving a lot of people that are really detached from anything but broad fantasies about the country... This is kind of what happened to in part of my family who are descendants of Poles. The part of Detroit they settled in was and is heavily populated by Polish immigrants, with all the insularity that brings in any immigrant community. It's been tempered by the fact that it's a large and diverse city, only becoming more so as time goes on. As the family got bigger, many moved out of Detroit or worked in other places, bringing back new experiences and attitudes at the same time their Polish identity changed into a more American identity. As you say, that coincided with the last fluent Polish speakers either dying or not passing down the language while alive. Even as the family became more "Americanized", old habits and ways of thought persisted. Until very recently, they all leaned very "right" (in the American context), holding an almost abandoned religion up as a sort of identifier and shield, considering their own experience as different for it's very "Polishness", as they define it. Years of being beat up by the politicians they supported here in the USA, and seeing their newer neighbors being mistreated and sometimes villified, have changed even the older generation's (mid 50's to 70+ years old) attitude towards their "Polishness" and what it means to them to be "Polish-American". While some of the family now tout that they lived among and accepted "others" as friends and neighbors far before it was more the norm in the US (and they aren't lying), there's always that "other". Which is kind of odd considering half of them don't even remember what their full family name was before it got shortened to fit American mores of the time. Even odder that half of the family is recognized by the US government as Native American! What persists is a feeling of solidarity with family, a sense that "we", whoever that happens to be, need to be helped and taken care of (and well fed) at any opportunity. I don't think that's specifically Polish, but that part of family certainly thinks so. That went on longer that I thought it would. You are right in every bit of that post, and it's not limited to the Polish. The Czechs in Iowa were similar, the Germans down here are the same, and I'm sure there are plenty more examples.
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# ? Sep 4, 2023 23:37 |
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Ah, Hamtramck. All the pierogi places are either shut down or near to doing so because all of the babchas who make them are passing away and nobody's stepping up to replace them.
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 01:21 |
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why did so many poles emigrate to the great lakes area anyway?? it feels like everyone has a relative in Chicago or Detroit
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 09:13 |
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The Pole yearns for a pojezierze
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 09:32 |
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goblin week posted:why did so many poles emigrate to the great lakes area anyway?? it feels like everyone has a relative in Chicago or Detroit In the late 19th century Polish immigrants to the US were considered good industrial workers by corporations and Chicago and Detroit were the largest industrial cities at the time.
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Belarusians will no longer be able to renew their passports abroad. https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/09/05/belarusian-diplomatic-missions-to-stop-issuing-passports-to-citizens-living-abroad You're supposed to change your passport every ten years starting from 14, so a lot of people around the ages of 24/34, who constitute the majority of recent immigrants, soon will either have to travel to Belarus or try to get a special EU permit that would allow them to stay and travel within EU. There are news stories almost daily lately about people visiting Belarus only to be detained at the border for extremism (like being subscribed to the wrong telegram channel or having donated to a mutual help fund three years ago), so there's a low but non-zero risk there. Additionally, the new law makes it impossible to perform property transactions without being in Belarus in person. Previously you could from abroad grant your relative or friend the legal ability to do this in your name, but now you'll have to travel to Belarus if, for example, you decide you want to sell your flat and stay in Poland for the foreseeable future. If you don't want to go, you'll have to continue to pay property tax and increased tariff on utilities, which is usually not a lot of money for an average computer toucher, but may not be insignificant for everyone else. Plus, in Belarus, you can be tried and convicted in absentia, so your property can be seized by the state. This seems to be mostly happening to the more public opposition figures like Tsikhanouskaya or Latushka, but occasionally some random people who had outstanding fines for 'blocking roads' before they left the country also had their flats arrested and auctioned. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Sep 5, 2023 |
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goblin week posted:why did so many poles emigrate to the great lakes area anyway?? it feels like everyone has a relative in Chicago or Detroit There was a lot of industry there, and as long as you could count to 10 and lift heavy things, there were no shortage of jobs. Way back when, It wasn't uncommon for people to go to the US to work for a few years to saving money before going back home, so, naturally, they gravitated to places with existing communities that provided a support network and where they could live without needing English (they were there temporarily, so why bother learning). Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee and everywhere in between are still rife with ethnic churches, national halls, cultural centers, stores, butchers and so on for various groups.
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The_Franz posted:There was a lot of industry there, and as long as you could count to 10 and lift heavy things, there were no shortage of jobs. Way back when, It wasn't uncommon for people to go to the US to work for a few years to saving money before going back home, so, naturally, they gravitated to places with existing communities that provided a support network and where they could live without needing English (they were there temporarily, so why bother learning). Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Sep 5, 2023 |
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In lighter news, a Belarusian Liberal Democrat (as in a cheap Zhirinovsky knockoff, not actual opposition) MP seems to have accidentally posted a dick pic in his telegram channel, and now claims hackers did it for his principled patriotic position, and also that it's not even his dick.quote:Those who are sitting there, looking at hands, something else, genitals, do something productive instead. Get busy! You shouldn't be studying male genitals - you should be working. It's all a lie and a hoax. It could never, ever be true. [...] In a way, I'm flattered that you lot are sitting there for half a day, attentively staring at the genitals that you think are mine. But they're not mine. And you're doing the wrong thing. You should be working!
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He needs to describe his dick in detail so we can confirm or make extra sure and post his actual dick
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# ? Sep 7, 2023 16:01 |
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Sounds like his Prick-ozhin got de-fly-estrated
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Remember Mazur? Déjà vu time. https://taz.de/Wilder-Trucker-Streik-in-Graefenhausen/!5956516/ Machine translation posted:BERLIN taz | Two men in cowboy hats stand on the back of a truck and play their country guitars. Every now and then, musicians stop by at the Gräfenhausen rest area near Frankfurt am Main and give a little surprise concert. They want to show their solidarity with around 100 lorry drivers from Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Ukraine and Turkey. For more than six weeks they have been demanding their outstanding wages with a "wildcat strike". It is the longest known truckers' strike in Europe. Word of the day: Lieferkettensorgfaltspflichtengesetz
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# ? Sep 11, 2023 15:17 |
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I find it weird that's there's nothing to be done about this for so long. The company is obviously bankrupt, just sell off the trucks and all their contents and pay the drivers from that.
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# ? Sep 11, 2023 15:28 |
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It doesn't seem very bankrupt, just exploitative. And of course, you can't really do bankruptcy things against a company that doesn't file for bankruptcy (though not filing is illegal iirc). Not my specialty. However, afaik Mazur has PiS connections, so…
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Lichtenstein posted:Yeah. Polonia in the US is one of the worst about it, since there's a lot of really old emigration, like pre-world wars, leaving a lot of people that are really detached from anything but broad fantasies about the country. There's a certain kind of brainrot that sometimes hits at 3+ generation of immigrants where you're long past concerns of fitting in the new place, they're past anyone in the family trying to teach them the language (and by extension, any cultural contact being long dormant) but they've got this heritage that can become *their thing*. Think of the Plastic Paddies, but with extra layers of solipsist detachment due to being outside of the anglosphere. There's a specific flavour of this in the Polish-Canadian community (at least, insofar as I've observed it where I live, as well as Toronto and Mississauga), whereby the post-WWII set are a lot more chill than the Solidarity-era immigrants because they really seemed to internalize a lot of the anti-Communist rhetoric of those times. At least, this is all according to my dad who came to Canada when he was 3. It was especially a big boon to Liberal politicians because Pierre Trudeau was the one that opened up a lot of immigration in the '60s. My older cousin meanwhile came here in the late '80s and he'll snarl the moment you whisper... that name. Also: some of my mom's friends tried to organize a rosary in the name of the Ottawa convoy. Thankfully my mom's not into that poo poo (the convoy, I mean), but pretty much everyone she knows is brain-poisoned in that way around here, and I'm not sure the kids are that much better. Then again they live on the actual outskirts of town and on farms, so that could just be that good ol' urban/rural divide.
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Sekenr posted:I accidentalyy wore white-red-white today when I wen to buy cigarettes. Which under current laws is "extremism". I did not meet any cops but people stared If anyone asks tell them they are your favorite team's colors.
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One of these situations where I read Polish news on the Guardian instead of finding out about it from the local media https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/12/polish-tv-talent-show-contestants-use-blackface-for-kendrick-lamar-beyonce-performances Doing blackface while screaming the n-word is sure a look. Reminds me of the festival where Poles dress up as Americans. https://mymodernmet.com/4th-of-july-larp-poland/
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# ? Sep 12, 2023 11:02 |
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Oh yeah they’ve been doing blackface on that show forever
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Mokotow posted:Reminds me of the festival where Poles dress up as Americans. My ex played that larp and holy poo poo, the stories i heard about the organisers trying extremely hard to communicate to clueless polish nerds why the confederate flag is a Bad Look™
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goblin week posted:Oh yeah they’ve been doing blackface on that show forever the usual suspects tend to crawl out to say that a) antiblack racism is an american problem and here it’s all in good fun b) there are no black people in poland anyway why are you offended on behalf of noone
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Mokotow posted:Reminds me of the festival where Poles dress up as Americans. Never mind blackface, those larpers need fatsuits.
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# ? Sep 12, 2023 11:36 |
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It’s produced by Endemol, a Dutch company. They know exactly what blackface is and what they’re doing.
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Mokotow posted:It’s produced by Endemol, a Dutch company. They know exactly what blackface is and what they’re doing. That’s a wholesome zwarte piet celebration so mayhaps YOU are the real racist
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goblin week posted:Oh yeah they’ve been doing blackface on that show forever Yeah, and not just in Poland. Russia, China, Bulgaria, Thailand, Philippines, and I'm sure many, many more that youtube never recommended to me.
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Paladinus posted:Yeah, and not just in Poland. Russia, China, Bulgaria, Thailand, Philippines, and I'm sure many, many more that youtube never recommended to me. Not all countries have same history of minstrel shows and taboos. But globalisation is slowly eroding that.
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Mokotow posted:One of these situations where I read Polish news on the Guardian instead of finding out about it from the local media This show has blackface on it every time I've seen it. It reminds me of a situation a few years ago. I went to a party, mixed foreigners and poles, and at one point someone put on the TV and there was some charity concert. As part of the show, some polish folks were wearing cooly hats, eyes taped back, plastic buck-teeth, coke-bottle glasses, full on hard-core yellowface. The orchestra started playing what I can only describe as "ching chong bing bong" music. One of the poles stood in front of the TV and addressed the party-goers, she said, "Please, I ask you to not judge us too badly for this, in Poland we don't know that this is racist yet."
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Eastern Europe: we don't know that this is racist yet
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