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A bad running mate can just drag everything down like how Sarah Palin was a huge weight on the McCain campaign for the bulk of 2008.
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Riptor posted:Seems to me the way to do the switch would be to have a Cabinet member resign, nominate Harris in their place and get her confirmed, then pick a new person for VP Apparently there is nothing legally preventing a President from nominating a VP for a cabinet position other than convention, it's really weird every VP isn't given a cabinet post de rigeur. Unclear why America insists the next in line to the big chair can do nothing but break tie votes in the senate.
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Killer robot posted:Polling keeps showing that people want someone younger and different in the abstract but when you ask who you get dead air. Most of those saying it the loudest wanted an even older guy last time, or the guy that was almost as old but clearly in worse shape. It doesn't seem like a terribly serious suggestion and I doubt Biden's age will hurt him more in 2024 than it did in 2020. Yes, because what normie Democrats want is a 50-year old version of Joe Biden.
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dem bench seems pretty weak right now. we got what, maybe newsom and whitmer? so even though i dont think harris is great and wish we did have a better option, she's also not sarah palin and there doesn't seem to be any obvious replacement anyways -- for her or biden
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Velocity Raptor posted:Wait, what is this about mortgage equity withdrawal by the upper-middle class? This is the first time I've seen this put forward as a cause to the inflation. (Not doubting, genuinely curious about what that's about). Yeah like others noted, the 'revenge spending' is a little bit of speculative editorializing from the author but it's basically "retail therapy," a concept with which I'm sure you're familiar, in response to the pandemic. My parents, for example, their house was already paid off so they didn't get an enormous windfall. But, once the various travel restrictions started getting lifted, the next time they went on vacation, they bought first class plane tickets, and they have never, ever flown first class in their entire lives. Obviously this isn't an enormous expenditure, but these are very spendthrift people, and a microcosm of how even a slight disruption in the constant flow of treats was very upsetting to many American minds. As far as the size of the mortgage equity withdrawals, yes they're quite large, and most importantly, almost entirely accrued to people for whom it became entirely discretionary income (i.e. they had high-income jobs which easily transitioned to remote work so they never got laid off, they already have at least 1 house, etc.). In aggregate, it ended up being a little over a trillion dollars, larger than the entirety of the PPP loan program itself (which we all know was an additional source of fraudulent liquid cash, which itself is also going to have a high accrual overlap with this group). Some articles are coming out in the aftermath but of course they stop short of saying "this is the biggest cause of inflation," or even "this is a cause of inflation," but they put it in terms like "supportive of consumption spending." https://www.freddiemac.com/research/insight/20220425-trends-mortgage-refinancing-activity https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2023/05/the-great-pandemic-mortgage-refinance-boom/ Really the 3rd image of this post, showing equity withdrawals segmented by income percentiles, tells the story the best, in my opinion https://twitter.com/NewRiverInvest/status/1585566853060886528 The bottom half of mortgage owners took the opportunity to pay down their existing debt. The top half of them used it towards a spending bonanza, whether that was a new car, jet ski, outdoor patio, vacation, the stock market, you name it.
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gurragadon posted:That tweet summary is really bad, there's no pause where Pelosi tries to think after the questions, and it paraphrases from the beginning and end like it was a different conversation. Pretty surprising for a minute long clip. The 6% thing was to explain how good she is at politics, going from 6% to winning, not to say she sucks. I would expect nothing else from a Breitbart Republican posting hot takes on a reactionary platform. People need to learn how to filter their media sources.
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Neurolimal posted:In general, the trend outside Estonia/Lithuania/Latvia/Kazakhstan/Turkmenistan appears to be that if you lived during the USSR, you very likely consider it to have been significantly better than the current situation, whereas if you were born afterwards you're more likely to consider it The Dark Ages. Unsurprisingly, people who lived under Reagan also disproportionally think he was the best American president. In fact, by 2004 his approval ratings were higher than during his presidency. https://news.gallup.com/poll/11887/ronald-reagan-from-peoples-perspective-gallup-poll-review.aspx In 2011 he was even more popular than Lincoln. https://news.gallup.com/poll/146183/americans-say-reagan-greatest-president.aspx The same's already happened to Bush Jr. thanks to Trump and he's viewed more favourably than when he left office. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/george-w-bush-favorable-poll/index.html I also really like the time when I was young, my parents were still married, and I only had to worry about school and pogs, so I don't blame them.
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single-mode fiber posted:Yeah like others noted, the 'revenge spending' is a little bit of speculative editorializing from the author but it's basically "retail therapy," a concept with which I'm sure you're familiar, in response to the pandemic. My parents, for example, their house was already paid off so they didn't get an enormous windfall. But, once the various travel restrictions started getting lifted, the next time they went on vacation, they bought first class plane tickets, and they have never, ever flown first class in their entire lives. Obviously this isn't an enormous expenditure, but these are very spendthrift people, and a microcosm of how even a slight disruption in the constant flow of treats was very upsetting to many American minds. I'm sure cheap credit via cashing out home equity probably helped raise spending and inflation a tiny bit, but based on the fact that inflation has fallen from 9% to a little over 3% in just a year or so and every major country in the world had roughly the same rise in inflation at the exact same time, it seems like the vast majority of it was caused by supply shortages due to the pandemic. People having more money via direct payments or cashing out their home equity made it easier to keep prices high because people could afford it instead of roughly 1/5th of the country having no income. But, the overall trend is almost definitely due to supply chain issues. Unless Americans withdrawing their housing equity caused inflation in every other major country in the world at the exact same time. Things like large cash payments, the lack of other options to spend money driving demand into the few places where you still could, and cashing out home equity likely all contributed to inflation. But, the central cause was almost certainly the supply chain issues. Throwing kindling on your burning house definitely makes it burn a little faster, but the kindling is only going to make a major impact if the house is already on fire. The supply chain issues were the fire. gurragadon posted:That tweet summary is really bad, there's no pause where Pelosi tries to think after the questions, and it paraphrases from the beginning and end like it was a different conversation. Pretty surprising for a minute long clip. The 6% thing was to explain how good she is at politics, going from 6% to winning, not to say she sucks. Yes, I mentioned that the summary in the tweet is not very good and this is why I included the entire clip. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:it seems like the vast majority of it was caused by supply shortages due to the pandemic. I’ve seen Krugman say that was 20%. That said he was on side that was downplaying supply chain concerns as transitory when he said that.
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I feel like Dems are damned if they do and damned if they don't with VP. If they keep Kamala, they're saddled with an unpopular and ineffective sack of anvils. Her checking a lot of the right idpol boxes isn't going to outweigh her negatives. On the other hand though, if they drop her, that's going to be seen as a sign of weakness and will absolutely be used as a talking point in the Generals.
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the_steve posted:I feel like Dems are damned if they do and damned if they don't with VP. I think you're definitely right, but I doubt the VP really matters much unless they are a major disgrace/distraction. The main issue is that Biden is old and that is why there is a focus on the VP. Trump is only 2.5 years younger than Biden and will also be in his 80's during his second term, but isn't perceived as old as Biden. I don't think it is really about the VP and Biden just needs to fight the attacks or perception that he is too old (Reagan had the same problem, but was able to turn it around) or discover the fountain of youth. It's not just the number because Trump is almost the same age and the stuff that comes out of Trump's mouth is absolutely much more incoherent and addled than Biden. But, we just sort of accept that Trump is incoherent and confused all the time + he seems loud and vigorous. So, the perception is definitely the bigger issue than the specific number or who the VP is. Swapping someone out will just cause more drama for no real benefit to anyone. Biden is either going to shake off the concerns about being old or he isn't, and I doubt his VP makes any difference in how that plays out. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Kamala Harris has the same approval rating as Biden. She's had the same approval rating for the whole presidency. The reasons she gets treated by media (not voters) as a millstone around Biden's neck are impossible to disentangle from the fact that she checks idpol boxes.
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James Garfield posted:Kamala Harris has the same approval rating as Biden. She's had the same approval rating for the whole presidency. The reasons she gets treated by media (not voters) as a millstone around Biden's neck are impossible to disentangle from the fact that she checks idpol boxes. Harris has always polled lower than Biden. It wasn't until Biden's polls started to sink during the inflation and Afghan withdrawal that he started to match her. Even now, she has a slightly lower approval rating than him according to 538. There has always been a gap (that varied a bit in size) between her approval and Biden's. She also does worse in general election polls than Biden. Whether that is partially because of her identity boxes or whether it is fair, I don't know. But, it does exist. Edit: The most recent NBC news poll I can find that compares both of them is from two months ago and it had Biden at -10 net approval and Harris at -17 net approval. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Harris has always polled lower than Biden. It wasn't until Biden's polls started to sink during the inflation and Afghan withdrawal that he started to match her. Even now, she has a slightly lower approval rating than him according to 538. Per 538 Harris is (insignificantly) above Biden in net approval, the gap is because fewer people had an opinion. Harris actually went negative on the tracker after Biden, not that it matters when the gap between them is as small as it is. It isn't even like people in 2016 saying Clinton's approval rating was only low because of right wing media, the right wing media already hates Biden. Opinion columnists are trying to make her an extremely polarizing figure because they miss that aspect of Trump and Biden is a boring white guy. James Garfield fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Finally, actual policy has been released in the 2024 race. This has been a shockingly policy-less race. This is a major policy release, but unfortunately it is from Tim Scott. Good on Scott for at least providing some details - even though some of them are silly. I like his pledge to appoint a farmer to run the Department of Agriculture. Highlights: - He's one of the rare candidates to actually mention housing in a presidential platform. - Most of these are pretty bad ideas, but he is at least coming up with a few unique/new ideas. - Interesting seeing him try to wedge himself in between 1999 "compassionate conservatives" and modern "MAGA Republicans." - He has a lot of gimmicks involving restructuring the federal government - including weird ones that nobody was asking for, like moving the Department of Energy to Tennessee. - Lots of random bible verses just listed as policies. - Requiring things like rent and phone bills be included as positive points in credit scores to allow renters to build credit is a decent idea. - Surprisingly, this is the first Republican tax plan actually released so far. https://twitter.com/PTBwrites/status/1702336209086009576 quote:1. Cutting Spending, Cutting Government, and Cutting Taxes Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Fister Roboto posted:The Senate doesn't vote to impeach, the House does. I'm sure you know OP meant that seven Republican senators voted to convict him.
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...it's so stupid when someone says that there's "dignity" in 16 hour work days. What dignity is being a sleep depretived, short tempered mess that never sees your family? Not to mention dangerous for everyone around you - if not your job, then commuting to your job. Anyway, since the bar is in hell because the Flordia Department of Helath just straight up told people under 65 not to get the COVID vax, the Missouri Department of Health saying "get your COVID vax if that's your thing" is... better. https://twitter.com/HealthyLivingMo/status/1702071127017725981?t=M6boYwtwEQamwAqYabohcg
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It pisses me off that the only people supporting nuclear power are nutjobs and morons.
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Laughing at a Republican proposing a Balanced Budget Amendment in TYOOL 2023 Just a bizarre choice that feels like a throwback to Newt Gingrich
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Hunter indicted. Looking forward to right wingers talking about the importance of the federal gov't restricting the ability of citizens to keep and bare arms.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:It pisses me off that the only people supporting nuclear power are nutjobs and morons. There's some subsidies for people who get their energy from nuclear plants and money to deploy a test site for a "modular nuclear power plant" in the IRA. However, I am not steeped in the details of nuclear engineering enough to know whether those modular nuclear plants are ever something that can be cost-effective/work/safe. Nuclear is in a weird spot because on the left you still have a lot of people from the 60's, 70's, and 80's environmental movements involved who are vehemently anti-nukes and nobody wants to disrupt the coalition over it. Solar, wind, and electric have much bigger influence on the modern environmental movement as well, which means they are okay with pushing aside alternatives. On the right, nuclear has some support, but it isn't such a weird lifestyle brand or the business keeping some places alive like coal is and doesn't have the organizing or money that petroleum and natural gas have on the right. Both sides also aren't crazy about how expensive nuclear is to get up and running and nobody wants to be the brave soul to be the first person to get out there on a platform of attempting to explain to the 60% of Americans who have concerns about nuclear power why they are wrong and their beliefs are dumb. FlamingLiberal posted:Laughing at a Republican proposing a Balanced Budget Amendment in TYOOL 2023 A lot of Scott's platform seems like a weird mish-mash of 1999 "compassionate conservative" ideas and modern Republican Trump-ism. A balanced budget amendment is basically the "FREE SQUARE" for politicians to posture about the debt/deficit by proposing something that sounds good, but is a terrible policy that will never be implemented.
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Nuclear power did just get a minor win in Michigan, a nuclear plant that shut down earlier this year looks like it may be starting up again: https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2023/09/palisades-nuclear-plant-to-restart-in-deal-with-power-co-op.html
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There might be some more actual policy today. Biden is giving a speech that is supposed to be a preview of his 2024 economic plan later today at Prince George’s Community College in Largo, Maryland. The White House description of it is "a major economic address today laying out the next chapter of the Bidenomics vs. MAGAnomics contrast: What’s at stake for the American people in debates about the federal budget." They are sending a memo with new policies to congressional Democrats to get them to hype them/support them: quote:Ahead of his speech, White House senior adviser Anita Dunn sent out a memo arguing that the contrast between Bidenomics and MAGAnomics will "define the fall budget debates." The memo would be sent to congressional Democrats and other allies, the official said. The only details so far are: - Criticizing "Republican plans to cut taxes for the wealthy, cut social security, Medicare and Medicaid, and raise costs for hardworking families." - "A plan to restructure the U.S. economy by investing in infrastructure, green energy and local manufacturing and building on the bases laid in the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act of 2021, the Inflation Reduction Act, and the Bipartisan Infrastructure bill of 2021." - A plan to "push companies to share more profits with workers." - New executive actions to strengthen unions and "build an economy from the bottom up and middle out instead of trickle down" Most of it seems to be a bunch of messaging jargon, but there are a couple promises of specific new policies. It will be interesting to see what they are. I doubt he is going to get super specific in the speech, but the memo and info afterwards should have detailed information. https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/14/politics/joe-biden-economic-speech/index.html
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The idea of Biden keeling over and leaving us with President Harris has me scared beyond anything else. Whatever good you think the Dems have done or will do is forfeit if they're forced to run her against Trump.
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Uglycat posted:Hunter indicted. Charges are for making false statements on a federal firearm form and possessing a firearm while a prohibited person (drug user). quote:Count One accuses Hunter Biden of lying on an ATF form when he bought the gun, by falsely swearing that he wasn’t addicted to illegal drugs or using illegal drugs. He is almost certainly getting convicted, but he also has a very good chance of succeeding if he appeals it to the Supreme Court on the basis that it is unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's recent ruling to deprive someone of their second amendment right due to drug usage when they haven't been charged or convicted of a crime. It's already been struck down by the 5th circuit (although that has no direct bearing on Hunter's case unless he appeals and they don't strike it down as well, which will trigger a Supreme Court case). https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/14/poli...k&utm_term=link Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Finally, actual policy has been released in the 2024 race. What’s so deeply fascinating here is the “Made in America” section…basically describes a bunch of Biden priorities save probably being slightly more petroleum friendly? Like, it’s going to be really hard to offer those as a critique of Biden in a meaningful way. Otherwise, this is just like literally the Romney campaign script? I thought we established that Trump’s tax cut was like the first unpopular tax cut ever and people hate when you talk about abortion restrictions when you’re in a position to actually implement them. Trump’s entire campaign was avoiding talking about this stuff in favor of nebulous bullshit from section 3 and things that are pure petty grievance on par with “I’ll make aunt Jemima come back” because the more explicitly Republican priorities get laid out the less they seem to win elections.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He is almost certainly getting convicted, but he also has a very good chance of succeeding if he appeals it to the Supreme Court on the basis that it is unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's recent ruling to deprive someone of their second amendment right due to drug usage when they haven't been charged or convicted of a crime. It's already been struck down by the 5th circuit (although that has no direct bearing on Hunter's case unless he appeals and they don't strike it down as well, which will trigger a Supreme Court case). This will become a historical milestone in US politics. GOP is going to try to repeal 2nd Amendment and Dems become the gun rights party
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I think a properly made peanut butter and honey sandwich kind of rules! Also Mitt was spot on about Russia and the left dunked all over him as a relic of the Cold War.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I think a properly made peanut butter and honey sandwich kind of rules! I don't think anyone disagreed that Russia was a bad actor on the world stage. This was already after they shelled and invaded Georgia. It was just a silly answer because there are multiple other things that are bigger threats to the U.S. The question was specifically about the biggest geopolitical challenge to the U.S. China (economically), Al-Qaeda/terrorism (in terms of lives lost), or Iran/North Korea (nuclear proliferation) were all much more obvious or correct answers. Russia is definitely a bad actor, but it is a tough argument to put them above China, terrorism, or nuclear proliferation in 2012 when it comes to challenges to America specifically. Russia's geopolitical influence and damage is primarily regional (especially in 2012). Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I think a properly made peanut butter and honey sandwich kind of rules! And then Mitt Romney's party got compromised by Russia
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I think a properly made peanut butter and honey sandwich kind of rules! Romney's position was we needed yet another massive increase in defense spending because Russia was scary again and had rebuilt its military to or near to its Soviet-era apex, which was a load of poo poo then and even moreso these days as demonstrated by its three-day war in Ukraine now dragging on into its second year. Obama was right to dunk on him because what he was calling for in broader terms was dumb and wrong.
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OctaMurk posted:dem bench seems pretty weak right now. we got what, maybe newsom and whitmer? so even though i dont think harris is great and wish we did have a better option, she's also not sarah palin and there doesn't seem to be any obvious replacement anyways -- for her or biden You do not replace an incumbent President or VP on your ticket unless one or both are scandal ridden (Agnew from Nixon administration) or having a serious health crisis. To do so, because of some mediocre polling, would be to concede that they are incompetent or doing a terrible job in the office. The presumption is that an incumbent administration, if competent, deserves another term in office as opposed to taking a chance on a challenger from either party. A low profile and relatively unpopular VP like Harris might be more possible to replace without an obvious scandal but doing so would require some fancy sleight of hand and have a lot of risks that would probably outweigh any possible benefits (like losing turnout among the constituency that caused her to be pushed onto your ticket in the first place). As far as viable Dem presidential candidates I would also include Sherrod Brown, Pritzker, Duckworth, Kelly, Klobuchar, Warnock, Warren, Buttigieg among possible others. Just because many of these are not popular in this forum doesn't mean they are not viable candidates for a national ticket. We don't talk about these people much during the reelection campaign of a Dem incumbent because guess what - the contenders with actual potential aren't going to run in this race, for very good reasons, so you are only going to hear from marginal candidates like RFK Jr. and West, or more substantial candidates who are actively trying to raise their profile this season like Newsom. It's virtually unheard of for a member of the incumbent ticket to drop off the race - LBJ declining to run after Vietnam ran his popularity into the toilet, and Agnew being dumped off the Nixon ticket are the only examples that come to mind. And if LBJ was a Republican President in this era of Fox and right wing media, no way would he decline to run for reelection for any reason.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I think a properly made peanut butter and honey sandwich kind of rules! Romney thought we needed to build a WWI ship count to counter Russia's ascending power and now they're losing ships to a country without a navy and being ground down on land by castoff gear that we already had in 2012. Even from a perspective that the US should have given more support for targets of Russian imperial ambition, Romney was a clown appealing to people still dreamy about Cold War militarism.
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Mike Pence had a town hall meeting last night and said he would consider having a female Vice President. Someone from the audience asked him about his famous claim that he would never take a meeting or dine alone with another women who wasn't his wife. quote:“How would that work out if you had a female vice president?” Vittert asked. A woman who works with trans kids asked him about his position on gender affirming care for minors. quote:“I hear your heart and I am moved by your emotion. I truly am,” Pence said to social work professor Melissa McCollister, who was visibly upset while delivering her question during a town hall hosted by NewsNation. The same woman asked him about protecting the rights of trans kids. Pence said that he will protect every American's rights under the law, even if he doesn't agree with their choices, but reiterated he thinks that any gender -affirming care for minors is wrong and they should wait until they are adults. quote:“I’m going to see to the protection of every American and the rights of every American,” he said. “But whether that’s that squares with my values or not, and I’m a Bible-believing Christian, I have a particular view on these matters. And, and you have a different view of those, perhaps.” Pence was asked about Covid and tried to balance between claiming credit for the original Covid vaccines and the current GOP resistance to vaccines. quote:“I’m incredibly proud of the fact that with American innovation, we managed to develop three safe and effective vaccines in nine months; vaccines usually take three to five years to approve. And I believe we saved hundreds of lives,” Pence said. https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/pence-dodges-emotional-question-on-violence-against-trans-people/ Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Trazz posted:And then Mitt Romney's party got compromised by Russia In fairness they seem entirely content compromising themselves for hordes of angry people with guns and then panicking when they realize Congresspeople don’t actually have government funded security details. It’s horrendous that Russia or any foreign government is ever permitted any influence on US politics in any way but I’m personally not convinced they’re actually responsible for any large scale problem experienced by US politics or elections.
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Manchin has indicated that he either plans to announce that he is going to retire from politics entirely or leave the Democratic party by the end of the year. Manchin is deciding between: - Running for re-election as an independent - Running for President under the "No Labels" party - Retiring from politics entirely And hasn't made a final decision yet. Democrats are pressuring him and strongly encouraging him to not run for President. The DSCC is undecided if they would support him if he ran as an independent, but isn't ruling it out. https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1702409895385985303 quote:Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) is having trouble making a decision about his political future.
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Conservatives saw multiple colors and freaked out, saying the display was disgusting and made them sick and fired the librarians over it. The display was for Autism awareness so countdown until all colors but grey are banned because colors might secretly contain The Gay in schools and libraries under GOP control
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There was a freep thread about a superbowl ad that showed the flight deck of a aircraft carrier and them freaking out about the woke gay sailors in colored jerseys drat gays and their tyranny over the entire color spectrum
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Combed Thunderclap posted:In fairness they seem entirely content compromising themselves for hordes of angry people with guns and then panicking when they realize Congresspeople don’t actually have government funded security details. Both parties got hacked by Russia, it's just that the Democrats had their emails leaked to the public while the GOP's were kept to use as blackmail Romney is simply too boring to blackmail
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Fellas is it gay to see in color?
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