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Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

HallelujahLee posted:

the thumb loser should be given 24/7 swirlies

he can go on tv again but he has to be stuffed in a locker

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HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Lib and let die posted:

he can go on tv again but he has to be stuffed in a locker

ill take it

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

the turds are attempting to hit back apparently

The most ambitious U.S. industrial labor action in decades has halted production at three plants producing the Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler and Chevrolet Colorado, along with other popular models.

But by Friday afternoon a ripple effect was felt.

"Our production system is highly interconnected, which means the UAW’s targeted strike strategy will have knock-on effects for facilities that are not directly targeted for a work stoppage," Ford (F.N) said in a statement.

It told 600 workers who are not striking not come to work on Friday and GM (GM.N) told some 2,000 workers at a Kansas car plant that their factory likely would be shut down next week for lack of parts, stemming from a nearby plant being struck.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Lol

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1702785618491633784

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


HallelujahLee posted:

like i said in the econ thread as soon as the strike starts lasting too long our buddy weimar joe will get asked if he hasent already (more than likely) to intervene and get it crushed

there’s no railway labor act for auto workers

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

there’s no railway labor act for auto workers

that wasent what i was referring to

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


HallelujahLee posted:

that wasent what i was referring to

ok so what are you referring to because it sounds like you’re just speculating about the president riding in on a decepticon to blow up shawn fain and getting mad about it

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

ok so what are you referring to because it sounds like you’re just speculating about the president riding in on a decepticon to blow up shawn fain and getting mad about it

That would be pretty sick

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

ok so what are you referring to because it sounds like you’re just speculating about the president riding in on a decepticon to blow up shawn fain and getting mad about it

what are you talking about are you incapable of figuring out that theres plenty they can do to influence or coerce a lovely outcome


also yeah that would be pretty cool

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


HallelujahLee posted:

what are you talking about are you incapable of figuring out that theres plenty they can do to influence or coerce a lovely outcome


also yeah that would be pretty cool

feels like a massive teamsters strike at one of the largest freight shippers in the country would be a good time for them to exercise that power if they had it and/or were interested in deploying it

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

feels like a massive teamsters strike at one of the largest freight shippers in the country would be a good time for them to exercise that power if they had it and/or were interested in deploying it

no kidding op

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


like im not gonna sit here and tell you with a straight face that joe biden is a pro union president, since we’ve literally never had one of those ever, but he sure doesn’t seem to think it’s his job to do anything about strikes outside of the extremely specific case of railway workers, the one category of worker that actually has a specific law allowing the government to gently caress them

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

you got it op

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Biden a nlrb has been pretty friendly to unions, but when push came to shove he broke a strike. Besides he may not even win the election.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

The NPC posted:

I'm thinking this targets different points in the JIT flow so they get cascading delays in parts deliveries without having to have an entire plant on strike.

Could be talking out my rear end though.

loving that decades of toyota production system indoctrination have led the union to analyze bottlenecks and apply the kaizen principles to labor action.

Overproduction of picket lines is waste!

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

HallelujahLee posted:

the turds are attempting to hit back apparently

The most ambitious U.S. industrial labor action in decades has halted production at three plants producing the Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler and Chevrolet Colorado, along with other popular models.

But by Friday afternoon a ripple effect was felt.

"Our production system is highly interconnected, which means the UAW’s targeted strike strategy will have knock-on effects for facilities that are not directly targeted for a work stoppage," Ford (F.N) said in a statement.

It told 600 workers who are not striking not come to work on Friday and GM (GM.N) told some 2,000 workers at a Kansas car plant that their factory likely would be shut down next week for lack of parts, stemming from a nearby plant being struck.

I'm still learning all this stuff as I go but it seems whack that Ford can do a lockout and in their statement say "this is not a lockout". If management says you can't work today what else is that but a lockout?

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Geight posted:

I'm still learning all this stuff as I go but it seems whack that Ford can do a lockout and in their statement say "this is not a lockout". If management says you can't work today what else is that but a lockout?

its def a lockout and another one of their lovely tactics

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Train drivers in England to strike during Tory conference
:getin:

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

https://twitter.com/UAW/status/1703051170908864579

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
The UAW strike is amazing and I really hope their rotating strike tactics complete with leaking false info works

stumblebum
May 8, 2022

no, what you want to do is get somebody mad enough to give you a red title you're proud of

vyelkin posted:

The UAW strike is amazing and I really hope their rotating strike tactics complete with leaking false info works

there are 3 ways i can think of for capital to fight this:

1.) capital flight to less-developed nations; china/BRICS are specifically developing swathes of the previously undeveloped world in order to prevent capital flight from themselves, which also has the effect of freezing up capital flights in general

2.) increase domestic repression; chattel slavery is theoretically and historically incompatible with industrial development, and whipping people harder will only deteriorate the modes of production further, leaving de-industrialized american capital at the mercy of industrial capital

3.) pad their supply chains back out to avoid bottlenecks; requires short-term sacrifices to profitability which is already a no-go but even if implemented the long term would involve distributing more material means of productions into the hands of increasingly proletarianized american labor

it probably wont work forever, but it should have the effect of forcing capital to paint itself into tighter corners

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

stumblebum posted:

there are 3 ways i can think of for capital to fight this:

1.) capital flight to less-developed nations; china/BRICS are specifically developing swathes of the previously undeveloped world in order to prevent capital flight from themselves, which also has the effect of freezing up capital flights in general

2.) increase domestic repression; chattel slavery is theoretically and historically incompatible with industrial development, and whipping people harder will only deteriorate the modes of production further, leaving de-industrialized american capital at the mercy of industrial capital

3.) pad their supply chains back out to avoid bottlenecks; requires short-term sacrifices to profitability which is already a no-go but even if implemented the long term would involve distributing more material means of productions into the hands of increasingly proletarianized american labor

it probably wont work forever, but it should have the effect of forcing capital to paint itself into tighter corners

:hmmyes:

stumblebum
May 8, 2022

no, what you want to do is get somebody mad enough to give you a red title you're proud of
fwiw 1.) and 2.) are definitely going to happen and they're definitely going to be effective at tamping down on whichever union(s) capital will be fighting at those times but it's only going to further exacerbate the very material conditions that are already rapidly accelerating labor militancy in the u.s.

3.) is more of a wildcard, and basically requires either complete subjugation of american capital to socialist central planning or for the us to have already gone through an intense round of turbofascist self-destruction

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
they’ve been moving production to the US south from the Midwest for generations, I’d imagine they’ll just keep doing that.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


as long as there is no federal repeal of right to work laws, they'll keep moving things to the US south. those states will be too happy to help them.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

they'll be building cars with prison labor if things keep going as they are

if they're not already, anyway

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

hailthefish posted:

they'll be building cars with prison labor if things keep going as they are

if they're not already, anyway

they already make license plates that way, so every car on the road is already part made with prison labour

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

quote:

Tens of thousands of people demonstrated in Athens, Salonika, Patras, Volos and several other cities in Greece during a general strike on Thursday.

Workers are confronting a new anti-union, anti-worker law from the right wing government of Kyriakos Mitsotakis. It suggests the criminalisation and arrest of workers on picket lines for “using physical or psychological violence” against scabs.
It also legalises 13 hours work a day for two different bosses, a six-day working week, working weekends for less wages and other attacks.

The 24-hour strike was called by public sector union confederation Adedy, several private sector union confederations, the Athens Workers’ Centre and other cities’ workers’ centres.
In Athens thousands of workers from both the public and private sector attended the rallies. There were firefighters, teachers, health workers, council workers, transport workers, actors and many others.
All the ferryboats around the country remained at the docks, many banks were closed, and most transport in Athens and Salonika didn’t run.

The day before the strike the judges, supported by the Mitsotakis government, decided that strikes called by air control workers, Athens metro workers, and bus workers were “illegal”.
The Athens Metro administration took legal action against the union even before it had made public a decision to strike.

But that provoked a 24-hour strike—longer than the one originally planned—by the Metro union which paralysed Athens.
https://twitter.com/PAME_Greece/status/1704810545893806137

ekuNNN has issued a correction as of 21:51 on Sep 21, 2023

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

shawn fain did a livestream today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lphRMZF4Wmk&t=420s

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

solidarity to the greeks

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



nice

he mentioned a bunch of locals near the end, how much you wanna bet thats 50% real props to real union efforts and 50% stringers to mess with the companies

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

here's an interview from 2 days ago explaining the strategy

UAW President Shawn Fain on Why He Wanted to "Beat the Sh*t Out of Somebody," Warning Biden on Labor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=triigg1pxFU

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
god he rules.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


fain rules. he knows how to work the media better than any other union leader alive. I saw a few random normie media outfits (Reuters!) covering the CEO pay thing because he had a coordinated media push on that topic ready to go as soon as the companies started to complain about the unions’ demands.

this kinda stuff may seem distasteful or irrelevant but it really matters

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

HallelujahLee posted:

solidarity to the greeks

There's gonna be a lot more chances for that coming up:
https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1705311028555227145

also:
https://twitter.com/BrianMteleSUR/status/1704813788103348376

ekuNNN has issued a correction as of 22:03 on Sep 22, 2023

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

more than just him, he has a staff that gives a poo poo, understands modern media tactics and has actual ideology guiding their decisions. I think UAW brought on some labor notes people after the new admin took over. Their communications (internally and externally) have improved dramatically. It's very inspiring. Every union member in us should come out of this strike thinking why can't we have that

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1705227336042295673

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case



capital: no!!! they’re dividing us!!! what happens next?!

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
ford blinked lmao

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HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

did agree to everything last i heard it was only some of the demands

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