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Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Gravity has been the only 3D movie I've seen where it felt worthwhile. This could be a me problem, though.

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Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Rappaport posted:

Gravity has been the only 3D movie I've seen where it felt worthwhile. This could be a me problem, though.

This but Jackass 3D.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Rappaport posted:

Gravity has been the only 3D movie I've seen where it felt worthwhile. This could be a me problem, though.

Gravity was fantastic in 3D, and no movie has come close to its achievements in a decade now. Alfonso Cuaron is a good director tho so that’s probably a big part of it.

mweber
Dec 24, 2003
Fury Road was the best 3D experience, hands down.

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo
Say what you want about the movie itself but the 3D in Avatar was great

Mostly because it was all about depth and very rarely about gimmick foreground stuff

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
I remember The Martian had really good 3D, they utilised it well in landscape shots of Mars. That and Gravity are the only movies I really remember caring about it.

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo
I was going to make a joke about 3D porno but I bet that's probably what most people are actually mostly doing with their oculus or whatever aren't they

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



The only time my mind was ever blown by 3D was Spy Kids 3D Game Over and that's because I was 12.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
I wear glasses so 3D has always been mostly inaccessible since nobody seems to give a poo poo about making goggles or something

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo

Azhais posted:

I wear glasses so 3D has always been mostly inaccessible since nobody seems to give a poo poo about making goggles or something

Modern theatre glasses give me no trouble over my own glasses :shrug:

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Azhais posted:

I wear glasses so 3D has always been mostly inaccessible since nobody seems to give a poo poo about making goggles or something

When I saw Avatar 2 they offered a clip on lens to go onto my glasses

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Jerusalem posted:

If they tried to make a Jaws sequel today, I bet they'd do something dumb like try to make it in 3d.

I legit can't tell if you're making a joke right now.

Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?
Finally saw the fifth episode. I liked it quite a bit. It's a nice chunk of classic Star Wars space fantasy leaning heavily into the fantasy. I liked seeing Anakin behave like he did in the Clone Wars versus whatever the gently caress he was doing in the prequels. I agree with folks who say the CW battles, for all their minimalism, felt more appropriate than the prequel stuff. It felt consistent with CW and Rebels, even though I still don't dig the Hera casting. It was prettay, prettay, prettay good. Yeah, it's not believable or visceral in the way Andor was, but it was most definitely a decent cut of USDA SW, a B+ in a series of C-. Plus, it was nice to see Ahsoka lighten up a bit.

Love Rat fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Sep 16, 2023

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

I'm going toss my hat into the ring and say I've been enjoying the show as someone who didn't watch the cartoons. Actually, I just started watching Clone Wars because of this show. As someone who's watched all of Star Trek Discovery and Picard, I grade my Star Shows on a curve and in that regard I think most of the live action Star Wars stuff has ranged from mediocre at worst, to something I'm actually excited to watch. I loved the tension building in Andor and it was full of great performances. The last two episodes of Ahsoka have started grab me as well.

Unrelated to storylines or characters, I think live action Star Wars does their visuals incredibly well. I've always thought the new Trek shows looked ugly. I know it's petty and nerdy but modern Trek still does that things where all of space is a vomitorium of colors and the post processing guy is still in love with the "dirty camera lens and flare" filters. I know, it's such a dumb thing to complain about, but Star Wars just looks beautiful in comparison.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Rappaport posted:

Gravity has been the only 3D movie I've seen where it felt worthwhile. This could be a me problem, though.

Tron legacy and pacific rim are my best pick for 3d movies.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Tron legacy had a sick score

MMAgCh
Aug 15, 2001
I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you

Mental Hospitality posted:

I'm going toss my hat into the ring and say I've been enjoying the show as someone who didn't watch the cartoons. Actually, I just started watching Clone Wars because of this show. As someone who's watched all of Star Trek Discovery and Picard, I grade my Star Shows on a curve and in that regard I think most of the live action Star Wars stuff has ranged from mediocre at worst, to something I'm actually excited to watch. I loved the tension building in Andor and it was full of great performances. The last two episodes of Ahsoka have started grab me as well.
Now you only have to decide whether to watch TCW in release order or chronological order. :v:

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Think it's fine to just watch it in release order.

Also generally less hassle

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




maybealabia posted:

Say what you want about the movie itself but the 3D in Avatar was great

Mostly because it was all about depth and very rarely about gimmick foreground stuff

Although for foreground stuff, I kept trying to brush stuff away from my face.

What really honks me off about 3D, is the brain geniuses who decided to release Dredd only in 3D. Predictably, it did poorly and we were denied at least one, maybe two by now, sequels. I do want to see it in 3D though, that is a beautiful film.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

maybealabia posted:

Say what you want about the movie itself but the 3D in Avatar was great

Mostly because it was all about depth and very rarely about gimmick foreground stuff

Exactly. Avatar and How to Train Your Dragon is why 3D is great. It's used as an extra layer of cinematography where you are looking at things in the depth as you would in real life. Most other things are just a gimmick.

I half all of Avatar 2 ignoring the foreground and looking around in the background due to it.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

mllaneza posted:

What really honks me off about 3D, is the brain geniuses who decided to release Dredd only in 3D. Predictably, it did poorly and we were denied at least one, maybe two by now, sequels. I do want to see it in 3D though, that is a beautiful film.

In Italy we only got in 2d, also direct to media. I would have loved to see it in 3d.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

The 3d in Avatar was fun, but i felt it was gimmicked pretty hard with floaty rocks and other Random Sci-Fantasy Bullshit for Moar 3d. I had mixed feelings.

Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?

Mental Hospitality posted:

Unrelated to storylines or characters, I think live action Star Wars does their visuals incredibly well. I've always thought the new Trek shows looked ugly. I know it's petty and nerdy but modern Trek still does that things where all of space is a vomitorium of colors and the post processing guy is still in love with the "dirty camera lens and flare" filters. I know, it's such a dumb thing to complain about, but Star Wars just looks beautiful in comparison.

My biggest beef with the visuals in new Trek shows is they can keep the camera still. They pan and zoom and whirl around the set constantly. Even in shots with two characters sitting down, they manage to pan right and left, creating some kind of parallax effect that reminds of me old NES Ninja Gaiden games. It's actually okay to occasionally just have two characters in a room talking from two ends of a table or in shot-reverse shot. But the camera can't stay still and the music constantly swelling the background. It's like, take it down a notch. Maybe I'm an old dork, but I miss characters just having rich conversations in a simple room. I was never into Trek because of the visual razzle dazzle.

A lot of SW live action overuses Volume and often looks kind of weightless. But at least they hold a shot for more than 5 seconds and utilize some basic blocking and offer cohesive, trackable action. It almost looks classical in comparison.

Love Rat fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Sep 16, 2023

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Darko posted:

Exactly. Avatar and How to Train Your Dragon is why 3D is great. It's used as an extra layer of cinematography where you are looking at things in the depth as you would in real life. Most other things are just a gimmick.

That's what I was going to say. Avatar used 3D to create depth and distance. Everyone else uses it to make things jump out. Stuff coming off the screen is gimmicky and fake. Avatar looks so flat in 2D when you don't have the appearance of altitude or height.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Jerusalem posted:

If they wanted to make 3d movies a success they would have made a 3d movie about some kind of escaped wild animal, such as a film about a gorilla at large for instance. If that didn't make 3d movies a success, well then nothing would.

I hate you so bad. Almost forgot that early viral wet fart.

It was a dude in a gorilla costume on a backlot. Groundbreaking TV my rear end.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Hazo posted:

I legit can't tell if you're making a joke right now.

I'd explain, but I'm very busy writing a letter to the Wachowskis thanking them for having the good sense to never dilute things by attempting to make a sequel to their 1999 smash hit movie, The Matrix.

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

Jerusalem posted:

I'd explain, but I'm very busy writing a letter to the Wachowskis thanking them for having the good sense to never dilute things by attempting to make a sequel to their 1999 smash hit movie, The Matrix.

Pretending the Matrix Sequels don't exist: Broke.
Knowing the Matrix Sequels are peak cinema: Woke.

I'm Woke AF :smuggo:

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck

Mental Hospitality posted:

Unrelated to storylines or characters, I think live action Star Wars does their visuals incredibly well. I've always thought the new Trek shows looked ugly. I know it's petty and nerdy but modern Trek still does that things where all of space is a vomitorium of colors and the post processing guy is still in love with the "dirty camera lens and flare" filters. I know, it's such a dumb thing to complain about, but Star Wars just looks beautiful in comparison.

There is a very specific look to Star Wars stuff that's important to get right and it really sticks out when they don't. Some of it is the stuff that gets brought up a lot, like the wipes or the "used universe" aesthetic, but there's a je ne sais quoi where, if you nail it, like half the work of the scripting and acting is done for you.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




TheBigBudgetSequel posted:

Pretending the Matrix Sequels don't exist: Broke.
Knowing the Matrix Sequels are peak cinema: Woke.

I'm Woke AF :smuggo:

Yeah, say what you want about the rest of the sequels, but I will not hear a word spoken against the freeway scene.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I love the freeway scene because whenever people ask me to say something good about the Matrix sequels I can say with all honesty,"The freeway scene was really good!"

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

mllaneza posted:

Yeah, say what you want about the rest of the sequels, but I will not hear a word spoken against the freeway scene.

could the volume let them do that scene without having to build a section of freeway

Stegosnaurlax
Apr 30, 2023

Spookydonut posted:

could the volume let them do that scene without having to build a section of freeway

Those fake freeway construction workers gotta eat too

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

It's kinda funny since a common complaint is 'Star Trek looks like Star Wars now'. Phasers being blasters, for example. Or the recent example of (Picard Spoilers) the USS Enterprise doing a trench run on a Borg cube, blowing up the giant glowing weak point in the middle, thus destroying the Borg forever and winning.

I also think there's something to be said for deliberately echoing the camera work that both Star Wars and Star Trek were forced into by the use of miniatures in space scenes. There were pretty strict limits to the amount you could play spin the camera, in order to avoid showing the armatures. Lucas did kind of break this rule in Ep III, but the camera work was still pretty deliberate rather than being hurried or aggressive.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Avatar 2 is the only movie I've seen where I felt the 3D really added anything (including Avatar 1).

Pity about the insane frame rate shifts.

Dexo posted:

Think it's fine to just watch it in release order.

Also generally less hassle

Release order is fine.

A lot of the chronological order changes either do nothing or split up things that were intended to air together for thematic/narrative reasons. It does make a few bits flow better but it's a wash overall.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
There's literally no point to the chronological order if you know that it was released non-chronologically.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

If you watch chronological order you'd have to watch like ten episodes in a row set on Christophsis.

Just watch release order, it's fine.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
The one time I think chronological order helps a bit is at the end of S1/beginning of S2.

S1 ends on a great episode about a Cad Bane plot that ties back to the movie. It works well as a season finale, especially because it ends with a clear setup for a future story.

The problem is that S2 starts with Cad Bane pulling off a different scheme that doesn't follow on from that. It would be fine if you had a several month gap between seasons but if you are just letting Disney autoplay it feels a bit weird to see them back to back.

But it's not a huge deal.

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

I'm watching the Ahsoka show and man these people have a problem with just spelling out the bottom line problems. It's good popcorn fun but it bugs me. Just tell Sabine that there's darksiders in play after the map, and you want to be nearby so she doesn't get lightsaber'd instead of vague platitudes about importance. And that crap with the Senators! You have nine missing SSD hyperdrive motivators in the wind. That's a fuckton of heavy metal some imperial rear end in a top hat now has in play as far as you and them know. That's plenty of motive to dispatch a fleet in the name of keeping the Empire's remnants nice and suppressed and not unifying around, say, nine SSDs. Don't talk about ~Grand Admiral Thrawn~ like some conspiracy nut, talk about how somebody's snookered everybody with big new ships. The New Republic of all people know how many capital ships can be built without control of the big shipyards.

Stegosnaurlax
Apr 30, 2023
My only gripe with the whole thing is, no one thought to ask the Purgil for a lift 9 years ago

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zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
My gripe is every time Ahsoka does her deep breath cool guy crossed arms pose. Quit crossing your arms so much it’s weird

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