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Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




fuctifino posted:

5th richest economy.....

Two economists are walking in the forest when they come across a pile of poo poo.

The first economist says to the other "Ill pay you £100 to eat that pile of poo poo." The second economist takes the £100 and eats the pile of poo poo.

They continue walking until they come across a second pile of poo poo. The second economist turns to the first and says "l'll pay you £100 to eat that pile of poo poo." The first economist takes the £100 and eats a pile of poo poo.

Walking a little more, the first economist looks at the second and says, "You know, I gave you £100 to eat poo poo, then you gave me back the same £100 to eat poo poo. can't help but feel like we both just ate poo poo for nothing."

"That's not true", responded the second economist. "We increased the GDP by £200!"

Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Sep 17, 2023

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Shoulder barging a tree and your mates catch all the waiting rapists that fall out of it.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Reveilled posted:

If the Dispatches piece was a rushed frantic work to accompany a story the Times had, why did the Times describe it as a joint investigation with Dispatches? There’s no reason for the Times to share the credit if it was just their own story. They could have scooped Dispatches by releasing it just one day earlier.

It was a joint investigation. This investigation was a multi month job and any perceived idea that it was a rush job to "get ahead of the Times" is purely from someone's arse.

This isn't to say channel 4 should be let off. Its not THAT long ago that Brand stopped appearing on the channel. I'm sure the suits that allowed this to happen are still there.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Sep 17, 2023

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

Shoulder barging a tree and your mates catch all the waiting rapists that fall out of it.
Back before all this health and safety we used to play noncers in the playground.

Then Greville Janner got banned from visiting schools.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


It makes it really hard to learn about cryptographic nonces.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Most of them went away when bitcoin crashed.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Mesopotamia posted:

Good, Labour should scrap the entire thing and spend the money on the other lines across the country. The connections between Manc-Brum-LDN are light years ahead of what the rest of the country has to deal with, and this entire project was just an attempt by Osborne to have some sort of infrastructure legacy, despite it not being what we need.

What kind of a chump do you have to be to think that cancelling one piece of investment will lead to greater investment elsewhere?

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.



I mean, India is the 6th by that measure, soo. Uh. Not sure that's the relevant point for child poverty.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Private Speech posted:

I mean, India is the 6th by that measure, soo. Uh. Not sure that's the relevant point for child poverty.

It's valid in the way that this country could easily afford to make sure people don't succumb to hunger. India could too.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

It's worth mentioning given the issue isn't the quantity of food available in a country it's income inequality that drives child poverty. See also in the USA where the child tax credit was allowed to expire and child poverty skyrocketed basically overnight.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
It's unfortunate that TV cameras constantly emit such powerful nonce rays out through the lens but it's the only way to get the professional broadcast quality image we've come to expect.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Runcible Cat posted:

Not even slightly. This is the front page of my 1965 edition:



I headcanon that Nabokov wrote Pale Fire after reading so, so many reviews of Lolita that utterly missed the point and showed far, far more about the critic than the critic ever realised.

(Ed: I am not and have never been Jeff Grimshaw.)

is phillip toynbee polly toynbee's dad..?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Yes, and a prominent British communist. Part of the long line of communist thought leaders raising shithead 'centrists'

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

big scary monsters posted:

It's unfortunate that TV cameras constantly emit such powerful nonce rays out through the lens but it's the only way to get the professional broadcast quality image we've come to expect.

Meet Russel Brand,
belted by paedo-rays,
turned into the Nonce.
Ain’t he unglamo-rays!
Wreckin' his career, with the force of a bull
ain't no grifter 'round who is as loveable.
As ever-lovin' Nonce! Nonce! Nonce!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj26N10Ymlg

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

Mesopotamia posted:

Good, Labour should scrap the entire thing and spend the money on the other lines across the country. The connections between Manc-Brum-LDN are light years ahead of what the rest of the country has to deal with, and this entire project was just an attempt by Osborne to have some sort of infrastructure legacy, despite it not being what we need.
The problem with HS2 is it was sold as faster when it should be sold as extra capacity. Moving cross country trains to dedicated lines will also open up a bunch of capacity on the existing lines, as mixing cross-country and local is inefficient.

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!
I feel like the point of Lolita is that he ruined her life. Like she ran from him to another paedophile and then got pregnant and died. That's bad.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Mesopotamia posted:

Good, Labour should scrap the entire thing and spend the money on the other lines across the country. The connections between Manc-Brum-LDN are light years ahead of what the rest of the country has to deal with, and this entire project was just an attempt by Osborne to have some sort of infrastructure legacy, despite it not being what we need.

this isn’t Sim City, you don’t get all the money back if you cancel a project halfway through

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!





makes u think

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

I feel like the point of Lolita is that he ruined her life. Like she ran from him to another paedophile and then got pregnant and died. That's bad.

That's the point of the plot. The point of the book as a whole is that Humbert is charming and eloquent enough to make you nod along with the monstrous things he's doing, but that doesn't make him any less of a monster.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
What if a school bus was being pursued by a paedo sprinter running at 25mph what then, Mark Drakeford?

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

I feel like the point of Lolita is that he ruined her life. Like she ran from him to another paedophile and then got pregnant and died. That's bad.

Yep. And also it's very clear throughout that she hates him and hates what he is doing. That she is a little girl, a child and not some sexual prodigy. It's an excellent book and the only way a reader could come away from it thinking 'that Lolita is a sexy child, poor Humbert' is if they went into it with that sympathy already in place. IMO.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The tweet it's in reply to is amazing too


Yes it must be mass formation hypnosis that there's one thing at a time that's the biggest news story.

I was barely aware of the ET statues one, I think the papers that aren't the Star were covering Daniel Khalife or Wilko then? (Both of which seemed more likely to be conspiracies in the sense of a planned wrongdoing by a number of people.)

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

With all works about a morally repellant protagonist theres always this issue with people who miss the point and see them as sympathetic. But in this case the twist is that we don't know what Brand himself thinks of Lolita, just that he encouraged the victim to read the book as a manipulation tactic. So its not neccisarrilly that he was missing the point, but that he saw it as instrumentally useful (as in what matters isn't what a 31 year old takes from it when they read it, but a 16 year old).

In that respect I suspect it wasn't a "minors having sex with adults is cool" message, it was a "look how mature you are for your age that you can handle this book full of complexity and moral ambiguity" bit. He knows Humbert is bad for preying on lolita, he knows he's bad for preying on a 16 year old, he's literally telling her he's bad and is preying on her - but as a means to build more trust (and make it all feel more naughty). It's a hosed up little in-joke from a guy who thinks he's very clever.

massive spider fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Sep 17, 2023

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

HopperUK posted:

Yep. And also it's very clear throughout that she hates him and hates what he is doing. That she is a little girl, a child and not some sexual prodigy. It's an excellent book and the only way a reader could come away from it thinking 'that Lolita is a sexy child, poor Humbert' is if they went into it with that sympathy already in place. IMO.

It's even clear that Humbert knows this too - there's the bit where he says he gives her money to do some sexual stuff (never specified, don't wanna know) but he knows where she hides it so he's never going to let her build up enough of a stash to escape with. The only way you can perceive that as a love story... well. You said it.

And it's all done through the frame of Humbert telling you how tragic his life is. It's so well done. Nabokov could write.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Bobby Deluxe posted:

E: Also, when it says "sold out wembley gig," it was iin one of the small conference rooms that's about half the size of your average cinema, not the arena.

that's incredible and it explains many of the instances where i've seen that phrase and thought "really?"

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



crispix posted:

that's incredible and it explains many of the instances where i've seen that phrase and thought "really?"

It's the same at the O2 Arena. They have their little 'Indigo' room out back that seats like 1,000 people but they'll still call it a sell out O2 gig.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

crispix posted:

that's incredible and it explains many of the instances where i've seen that phrase and thought "really?"
I've seen people state it has a capacity of 2000, but all the photos I've seen taken from the back seems to indicate a max of a few hundred

Mesopotamia
Apr 12, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

this isn’t Sim City, you don’t get all the money back if you cancel a project halfway through

No but there’s also such a thing as a throwing good money after bad. Given areas like mine continue to have unelectrified lines, forgive me for not thinking Osborne’s idea of throwing another 100 billion at another train connection for London is a good thing.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1703316574600417489

:guillotine: (in minecraft, maybe)

e: To those who don't want to play the video, Herr Keith replied that yes, the families should be put in the bracket of terrorists.... sigh

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Sep 17, 2023

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
Analyzing everything the media reports on through the lens of the only important problem facing the country (20mph speed limits): the RAAC concrete story broke a just before the speed limit changes, putting children's safety in everyone's minds and making low speed limits more palatable to the general public.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

https://twitter.com/judeinlondon/status/1703407958820782088?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Guavanaut posted:

The tweet it's in reply to is amazing too


That teabag in top right looks well manky

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

domhal posted:

making low speed limits more palatable to the general public.

Oh no it didn't

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Telegraph just openly calling for third positionism now

quote:

Both the failure of the Tory Party and the non-appearance of a serious populist party have the same cause. To be successful and capture all of its possible base a populist party has to reject free market neoliberalism and lean left on economics. It is not enough to be simply nationalist, anti-supranationalism, anti-immigration and anti-woke.

In particular the idea, all too popular in some circles, of a kind of reheated Thatcherism – more accurately Powellism – that combines these populist anti-globalist positions with radical free market politics, is an intellectual and political dead end. That position alienates both a lot of free marketeers, who dislike the nationalism, and the majority of populist voters, who reject the free market part. The evidence suggests it is supported by no more than 15% of voters. A successful populist party will have to combine nationalism and cultural conservatism with an explicit rejection of neoliberalism and a break with the legacy of Thatcher.

I think the Brexit referendum was a fault line shifting that's going to see politics more between third positionist authoritarian nationalism with socialist characteristics (for the right people) and some kind of turboliberal "free movement free markets free PS Hitsquad."

I am pro-left and take no pleasure in reporting this.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

fuctifino posted:

I've seen people state it has a capacity of 2000, but all the photos I've seen taken from the back seems to indicate a max of a few hundred


This is the one my friend took, slightly further forward but still, you can see how small a venue it is:



Pseudoedit: Oh L fuckin O L, after some brief research, it was a small theatre in Wembley, NOT 'Wembley Arena.'

https://www.troubadourtheatres.com/wembley-park-theatre



Capacity is 'up to' 2,000, but it looks like possibly 1000 with capacity for 2k packed standing if it's a gig.

It's in Wembley Park, which contains the OVO Arena Wembley and SSE Wembley Arena (both of which claim to be 'the' Wembley Arena), which is not the same thing at all as Wembley Stadium.

Saying this was a "sold-out Wembley show" is like people saying they 'went to Oxford' when they mean Oxford Brookes Polytechnic for an NVQ.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Sep 17, 2023

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Beefeater1980 posted:

I didn’t read the thread for a few days and then I read about Camrath and now I’m feeling sad :( RIP to a good goon.

wait what the gently caress

i missed this

RIP man. :(

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Mesopotamia posted:

No but there’s also such a thing as a throwing good money after bad. Given areas like mine continue to have unelectrified lines, forgive me for not thinking Osborne’s idea of throwing another 100 billion at another train connection for London is a good thing.

the Tories (and Labour too) are lying to you when they say there's not enough money to do both

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1703434171715137821

I thought "why won't the city stop for my convenience" was the height of entitlement, but some of her responses...

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