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stasi-levels of surveillance are basically quaint to everyone with a computer on the internet. our saving grace is that western states are not technically allowed to use a lot of this stuff on "real people", i.e. citizens of western countries, but that nicety is going away as soon as something sufficiently important comes along
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V. Illych L. posted:stasi-levels of surveillance are basically quaint to everyone with a computer on the internet. our saving grace is that western states are not technically allowed to use a lot of this stuff on "real people", i.e. citizens of western countries, but that nicety is going away as soon as something sufficiently important comes along if you’re in a five-eyes signatory country that nicety never existed
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Lol if you think any legal framework would matter for that anyway, lack of labour and computational power is the only thing holding any of them back
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Western democracies suppress the hell out of non-right wing groups and even shoot at non-right wing protestors. Like, if you have protest and the government immediately dispatches armed police to break it up, or at least stand around intimidating it ready to pounce, you don't have the right to protest. The surveillance can go as deep into your life as they like.
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skooma512 posted:Western democracies suppress the hell out of non-right wing groups and even shoot at non-right wing protestors. counterpoint: this is what i am accustomed to, and obviously the intelligence services monitor all my calls/mails/posts/etc. but in CHINA they do this in a CHINESE way, and it repulses me
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galagazombie posted:I was under the impression most pulp fiction of the time that dealt with Japan was Tom Clancy style fear mongering about how the inscrutable Japanese oriental was just biding his time till he could avenge himself upon freedom loving America, Remember Pearl Harbor! Or did that not really get going until the 80’s when the economic boom and better than American cars made people anxious? yeah, thru the 60s and until the end of the 70s the attitude in the cheap war paperbacks was that the japanese had taken their licks and were good buddies with us now, as junior partners of course, and that (most of) their personal conduct in the war had been honorable but doomed. though here's a great article on australian pulp fiction which seemed to focus heavily on pow camps and torture: https://murdermayhemandlongdogs.com/trashy-tuesday-pows-and-the-war-against-the-japanese/ no idea if thats a result of their being australian or being esp. trashy books
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so im watching mr sunshine and im legit caught off guard by how gross this show is when it comes to portraying the united states in the best possible light and joseon in the worst possible light when it comes to late nineteenth century gunboat diplomacy in east asia like im no fan of the late joseon government but being too unreasonably racistly paranoid about foreign powers seeking to destroy local sovereignty wasnt their critical flaw it was the halfassed away they went about trying to address this threat that was the problem its genuinely absurd to act like the japanese occupation of korea was this awful tragedy but if theyd just rolled over and let the americans colonize them first everything would have been fine
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pachinko devoting an entire episode to the idea that everything would have been fine for the gangster baby daddy character if the american ambassador had been able to smuggle him into the united states as an illegal immigrant in the twenties is all of a sudden lot less inexplicable now that i know mr sunshine used the exact same plot point in an even more absurdly horatio algeresque context oh god the main character is inspired to join the marines because he sees a black guy in their integrated 1870s era unit wtf is this
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(calm imperialist voice) wow look at all those poor koreans killing themselves for nothing just because we threatened to destroy their country and take over the world looks like they got some growing up to do (crazy translator voice) i murder for fun because i am an evil barbarian and hate the inferior races (sensible negotiator voice) why are you translating wrong no white person would ever say anything like that
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ok this time my mr sunshine comment takes the form of a question in the fourth episode some japanese soldiers in korea try to rob a girl who for some reason is carrying american dollars and they act like they hit the jackpot this is all around the turn of the twentieth century my question is would anyone at this time period react to american dollars this way dollars were not fiat currency at this time and there was no easy way to identify counterfeits unless you were actually in the united states and had access to the secret service so it seems to me like dollars would be quite worthless unless you were trying to buy something from an american and there werent that many around confusingly the episode itself seemed to imply this was the case earlier on because instead of trying to trade dollars for local currency theres a scene where they sell a celadon vase for this purpose and end up with far more local currency than they were expecting
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i'm fairly sure that pound sterling would have been the standard international currency at that point in time
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Some Guy TT posted:ok this time my mr sunshine comment takes the form of a question in the fourth episode some japanese soldiers in korea try to rob a girl who for some reason is carrying american dollars and they act like they hit the jackpot this is all around the turn of the twentieth century New World silver coins often traded at a significant premium in East Asia, since it was purer silver than local and the Chinese preferred to do business entirely in silver. Like, the US specifically minted silver trade dollars not valid in the US for a while after the civil war. Might have to do with that?
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china still sells silver pandas on the open market and the design changes over year. I've thought about trying to collect 'em all
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Mandoric posted:New World silver coins often traded at a significant premium in East Asia, since it was purer silver than local and the Chinese preferred to do business entirely in silver. Like, the US specifically minted silver trade dollars not valid in the US for a while after the civil war. Might have to do with that? something that really sticks out to me about mister sunshine is that theres just no awareness than china even exists at all theres a couple of mentions about russia but nothing about china you can perhaps see why acknowledging chinas existence would greatly complicate the narrative of self interested but mostly noble americans against the japanese since a big part of japans propaganda in regard to the korean takeover was just pointing to china and going you see what happened to them? you really think you can trust these white people any further than you can throw them?
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Some Guy TT posted:ok this time my mr sunshine comment takes the form of a question in the fourth episode some japanese soldiers in korea try to rob a girl who for some reason is carrying american dollars and they act like they hit the jackpot this is all around the turn of the twentieth century it should have been GBP or pounds sterling
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Mandoric posted:New World silver coins often traded at a significant premium in East Asia, since it was purer silver than local and the Chinese preferred to do business entirely in silver. Like, the US specifically minted silver trade dollars not valid in the US for a while after the civil war. Might have to do with that? ah yes the opium dollar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/opium_dollar
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War and Pieces posted:ah yes the opium dollar England dealt with the Chinese silver problem with the opium pound. Hold on, I misread that. England dealt with the Chinese silver problem with pounds of opium.
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so im watching the other black girl based on the novel of the same title and there was just a very casual reference made to the misogyny of the black panther party as if this was something everyone knows about and naturally assumes to be inherent to it heres my question to what extent is free associating the black panther party with misogyny a reasonable reaction versus it being a talking point that was given exaggerated influence for the sake of discrediting the black panther party
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it’s a legitimate complaint. Its either from a documentary on the panthers or the exhibit at the Oakland CA history museum but I recall a female member complaining that they were expected to do traditional gender role work, cooking and cleaning, etc for the party. misogyny is probably going way too far, sexist would be accurate. e: doing a little more digging reveals an interesting historiography on the topic actually. https://www.aaihs.org/women-gender-and-party-politics-in-the-black-panther-party/ so this article and book it’s about, the revolution has come, argues that women played a major role in the party and there were vigorous intra-party debates and discussions on feminism https://socialism.com/fs-article/voices-of-color-invisible-women-sexism-in-the-black-panther-party/ this one and it’s associated book, a taste of power, argues the opposite saying women had to adopt male attitudes to advance in the party and points to the 1977 beating of Regina Davis as the party having a misogyny problem. honestly I would say both articles are correct, with the caveat that the BPP was misogynist angle seems to focus more on when the party was in serious decline and Huey was losing his minds to drugs Raskolnikov38 has issued a correction as of 05:16 on Sep 15, 2023 |
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i learned it from forrest gump
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in context the descriptor is being applied to a famous novel with a very different more incisive original ending about an abusive relationship thats brilliant because its a comment on the misogyny of the black panthers the very brief discussion reminded me of toni morrison and really caught me off guard because im used to that trend in late twentieth century black literature being treated in critical terms and not as something that would improve a story
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second update apparently in this continuity there was never a trend in black literature to depict raw abusive relationships??? im genuinely confused at this point because this was such a defining element of the time period im not sure i can think of any major titles that dont do it thats a hell of a thing to imply was invented by zoomers
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Tankbuster posted:it should have been GBP or pounds sterling Mex dollars
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Mex dollars Mex ameros
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Old ethnic/religious maps of Yugoslavia have a tendency of being too... clean and discrete, I guess? Relative to the actual situation. Here's a great one I got linked to that's represents the census data as 100 people dots instead, showing a much more accurate picture. https://twitter.com/mapsareamazing/status/1702648890363666813 e: Sadly, it lacks a depiction of the Jewish population. Vojvodina in particular would have them in noticeable number, alongside a few cities like Belgrade and Sarajevo. my dad has issued a correction as of 19:40 on Sep 17, 2023 |
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Splitting up Yugoslavia into separate nation states was a disaster imo
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a freakish menagerie of vile little ethnostates
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Endman posted:Splitting up Yugoslavia into separate nation states was a disaster imo Yu go to salvia
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my dad posted:Old ethnic/religious maps of Yugoslavia have a tendency of being too... clean and discrete, I guess? Relative to the actual situation. Here's a great one I got linked to that's represents the census data as 100 people dots instead, showing a much more accurate picture. anyone who uses both lime green and yellow in the same map should be jailed. It’s not like there aren’t a billion other darker shades of green to use. Anyway what’s that peninsula of Protestantism in Slovenia?
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Must be Hussites
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prekmurje that province in slovenia had a big hungarian minority
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Endman posted:Splitting up Yugoslavia into separate nation states was a disaster imo yes, that was the goal
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Since the account is dead for some reason, lemme repost the map.
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my dad posted:Since the account is dead for some reason, lemme repost the map. Endman posted:Splitting up Yugoslavia into separate nation states was a disaster imo
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A Buttery Pastry posted:hosed up map. protestants are supposed to be blue, and catholics yellow It is known.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:hosed up map. protestants are supposed to be blue, and catholics yellow Tito wanted to do this.
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Leave out Austria and hand the whole thing over to Constantinople
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War and Pieces posted:Leave out Austria and hand the whole thing over to Constantinople
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