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Yeah Fortnite can be pretty drat locked down tbh. Also I seem to recall them saying fortnite is still growing it’s user base and had its best year ever player count wise.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i think its less likely for minors to run into a furry ERP server on Fortnite but maybe some experienced fortnite players can chime in I unironically expect Fortnite to be a major contributor to a 'next generation' of furries. For awhile, all their seasonal avatars were some kind of anthro animal, and I think that might still be true.
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Sep 18, 2023 17:14
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i am talking about inappropriate online spaces for minors why are people talking about wanting to gently caress the fortnite wolf
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Orv posted:will tend to repeat that Tencent is a bad company doing a bad thing by buying up other game studios and forcing them to monetize scummily, which isn't really a thing that's happened thus far but gets repeated like it is.  These were the vote counts right before the poll ended. Top 3 are Genshin Impact, Honkai Impact, and Tears of Themis, all by MiHoYo. Number 4 is a game owned by TenCent.  Here's what the results were published as. Tears of Themis got wiped off and Honkai got booted down to 3rd to make room for Tencent's game. A lot of the 'genshin impact is a shameless breath of the wild clone!!' reporting that got spread throughout the western gaming sphere was also caused by Tencent. Tencent tried to buy Mihoyo but the deal fell through so they smeared them on their social media. That isn't a conspiracy, they literally posted promoted articles on sites they owned with that. The idea that any hatred of tencent is purely anti-chinese racism is pretty silly. There's all sorts of complaints about them on the Chinese internet.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i am talking about inappropriate online spaces for minors why are people talking about wanting to gently caress the fortnite wolf
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Endorph posted:they wanna gently caress the fortnite wolf and need you to know https://twitter.com/kafrizzzle/status/1702074460558196751
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Feels Villeneuve posted:this is almost certainly true but i'm talking about like, actual servers which i think most parents would not want their children on the most recent thing I remember hearing about VRChat was them getting blowback for permabanning people who used mods so I went to look and the "recent controversy" stuff is split between that and "rampant child grooming" so uh yeah I don't know that I'd hold my breath on them getting Super Big-- any space that allows for ERP inherently runs into a scale issue where either they stay small enough that they can afford to coast with their paid-moderators-to-playerbase ratio, or they Get Big and can't afford to moderate properly and then CNN reports on how it's a wretched hive of scum and villany roblox is scummy but it's all underpaid child labor kinds of scummy which is fine since we all know the children yearn for the mines
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Sep 18, 2023 17:19
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https://twitter.com/AsiaFinance/status/1424250824092487681 is it racist to dislike the time tencent made female employees get down on their knees and use their mouths to unscrew the caps to water bottles men were holding between their legs? please reply
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Sep 18, 2023 17:20
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Popete posted:You've never seen someone complaining about Tencent stealing your data or monitoring your activity? There is a heavy implication if it's not outright stated that Tencent is bad because it's a Chinese company even when there is no evidence that they are doing anything worse than what every other big tech company is doing with your data. I guess I mean people say the same thing about Google/Facebook/Every tech company. Also Tencent came to power it has because WeChat was willing to play ball with Chinese Government's censorship and information gathering moreso than the social media platforms, I think there is more than "no evidence" out there that they are malicious.
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we interrupt your fortnite discourse to bring you this news: https://twitter.com/gibiz/status/1703801554216837151?s=12
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Sep 18, 2023 17:22
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The blowback to VR Chat banning mods is that VR chat has very little int he way of accessibility options and basically refused to add any when they banned all the deaf users who had the 'illegal' subtitles mod installed.
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I definitely remember a very racist bent to the conversation where Tencent, the Chinese government, and Chinese people were all conflated with each other, but I suppose those are just people who would always be racist.
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Endorph posted:they dont do it to stuff like league of legends but theyve definitely done it to some gacha games. there's also been some really shady scenarios involving them, like a chinese gaming site owned by tencent had a big poll of the best f2p games. I think you know I'm not saying it's purely racism nor am I saying they are remotely clean of bullshit, they're a huge tech company, they are by definition gonna be Up To Some poo poo. It was probably a mistake to tie them in particular into my personal gripe about gaming spaces being full of people just regurgitating stuff they never bother to check themselves but sometimes you gotta yell into a void.
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Kurieg posted:The blowback to VR Chat banning mods is that VR chat has very little int he way of accessibility options and basically refused to add any when they banned all the deaf users who had the 'illegal' subtitles mod installed. When I heard mods I assumed it was a porn thing, this is just hosed up though.
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socialsecurity posted:I guess I mean people say the same thing about Google/Facebook/Every tech company. Also Tencent came to power it has because WeChat was willing to play ball with Chinese Government's censorship and information gathering moreso than the social media platforms, I think there is more than "no evidence" out there that they are malicious. I'm not saying Tencent isn't doing shady poo poo but it seems to get a lot more attention warranted or not because it's a Chinese company. People will go out of there way to complain about a game being developed by a studio owned by Tencent. Not saying all discussion online of Tencent is racist but it sure feels like a good portion is.
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yeah i think VRChat disabled a lot of plugins which people relied on for accessibility which had a predictably negative response on social media presumably they aren't banning porn stuff because they would probably go bankrupt instantly if that happened, which is another clue that this is not going to be the next great game for kids
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mycot posted:I definitely remember a very racist bent to the conversation where Tencent, the Chinese government, and Chinese people were all conflated with each other, but I suppose those are just people who would always be racist.
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speaking of fortnite and surveillance, can anyone surmise what is being taken advantage of here? https://twitter.com/josephfcox/status/1703773822652928346
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I think they're talking about your Epic account's display name since you can change it like your steam name? But there's a skin named "Alias" So trying to find information about it is functionally impossible.
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njsykora posted:VRChat is routinely the most popular thing on the Oculus Quest, mostly with kids, and recently launched on Android. It's growing and growing very fast. No idea if you are trolling or not right now. God bless njsykora posted:Most people playing VRChat aren't playing in VR, that's the key part. Oh you weren't trolling LMFAO The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Sep 18, 2023 |
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Kurieg posted:I think they're talking about your Epic account's display name since you can change it like your steam name? But there's a skin named "Alias" So trying to find information about it is functionally impossible. It sounds like it's about monitoring your friends list and your connections to other users. IDK how public that info is.
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MechaCrash posted:I'm curious how many devs are opting out of the Epic cash because "here's a guaranteed wad of money up front" may not offset the whole "tiny little nothing potential audience" thing, with games selling more in their first few days on Steam than in the entire run-up period on Epic. by all indications, Epic all but stopped offering the big upfront moneyhats some time ago, presumably because EGS-exclusive games just weren't selling enough to justify the expense. the main thing they currently seem to be offering devs instead is the First Run Program, which gives EGS exclusives 100% of revenue (as opposed to the usual 88%) for the first six months of exclusivity but no money up front; it's fairly safe to say that this is not a very appealing offer, since PC gamers have made their willingness to wait for Steam releases very clear and 100% of next to nothing in sales isn't much more than 88% of next to nothing.
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Anyway VR chat will never even reach ROBLOX. VR Chat goons yall need to chill for real.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Anyway VR chat will never even reach ROBLOX. VR Chat goons yall need to chill for real. Roblox is getting a ps4/ps5 client So yeah
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Everyone seems to agree that 'some people give Tencent poo poo for being a Chinese corporation while turning a blind eye to Western corporations' and 'Tencent deserve poo poo for being a corporation and corporations are bad' aren't mutually exclusive positions so I'm not sure what the debate is about any moreUrsine Catastrophe posted:roblox is scummy but it's all underpaid child labor kinds of scummy which is fine since we all know the children yearn for the mines No Roblox has plenty of reported child grooming too
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Anyway VR chat will never even reach ROBLOX. VR Chat goons yall need to chill for real. bb... but that guys nephews???!!!
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Barry Convex posted:by all indications, Epic all but stopped offering the big upfront moneyhats some time ago, presumably because EGS-exclusive games just weren't selling enough to justify the expense. the main thing they currently seem to be offering devs instead is the First Run Program, which gives EGS exclusives 100% of revenue (as opposed to the usual 88%) for the first six months of exclusivity but no money up front; it's fairly safe to say that this is not a very appealing offer, since PC gamers have made their willingness to wait for Steam releases very clear and 100% of next to nothing in sales isn't much more than 88% of next to nothing. they're still doing big exclusives but they've shifted from buying out games from other publishers to acting as publisher themselves, notably alan wake 2 is being released that way (and IIRC remedy has another epic-published game in the pipeline) presumably games released that way will never go to steam
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:bb... but that guys nephews???!!! must be the coolest drat nepehews on earth
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repiv posted:\notably alan wake 2 is being released that way (and IIRC remedy has another epic-published game in the pipeline) Of the rest of their upcoming release palette, Max Payne 1+2 Remake is Rockstar, 505 Games has Control 2 and a Control spinoff, and there's a live-action game with no publisher listed. Their latest financial report states they have two other games in the works for a total of five, but no details are listed.
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coming up with a rev-share (capped at 4%) but doing it in the most "stepping on rakes possible" way https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1703815783216709995?s=20
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Rarity posted:Everyone seems to agree that 'some people give Tencent poo poo for being a Chinese corporation while turning a blind eye to Western corporations' and 'Tencent deserve poo poo for being a corporation and corporations are bad' aren't mutually exclusive positions so I'm not sure what the debate is about any more Roblox removed direct social features, so technically the child grooming is on discord.
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not suggesting this was the intent because it's far more likely that they're dumb as poo poo, but it was funny that a ton of the reactions from the Unity forum thread about the change were people saying they'd far rather have a revenue share instead, because unlike the idiotic pay-for-download scheme, you can pretty easily figure that into your game's budget
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Feels Villeneuve posted:not suggesting this was the intent because it's far more likely that they're dumb as poo poo, but it was funny that a ton of the reactions from the Unity forum thread about the change were people saying they'd far rather have a revenue share instead, because unlike the idiotic pay-for-download scheme, you can pretty easily figure that into your game's budget Is it more funny or less that most likely 4% is way higher than most devs would realistically pay on the original scheme?
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Making it 4% is so funny to me. Like they're still trying to message "we're better than unreal" after all this. This is still a huge blow to devs and just as legally suspect but at least the guaranteed bankruptcies in three months are gone.Lemming posted:Is it more funny or less that most likely 4% is way higher than most devs would realistically pay on the original scheme?
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Lemming posted:Is it more funny or less that most likely 4% is way higher than most devs would realistically pay on the original scheme? it is but the prior scheme represented literally unlimited potential liability, the way it was written
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Lemming posted:Is it more funny or less that most likely 4% is way higher than most devs would realistically pay on the original scheme? 4% is a lot better for f2p than the >100% they were after before
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Nybble posted:coming up with a rev-share (capped at 4%) but doing it in the most "stepping on rakes possible" way why would anyone want to continue doing business with these clowns
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I don't know about Tencent and the morality of dev cuts, but EGS pissed me off years ago when they made Metro: Exodus a EGS exclusive relatively last minute. There was a window where if you hurried the gently caress up you could pre-order it on Steam, and I did that so I wasn't even materially harmed, but it just annoyed the piss out of me. Some publisher making a title exclusive to their launcher? I get that. I've got an ubi launcher, I've got the GoG launcher, I've even got the loving Amazon Games launcher kicking around from all the free poo poo they've given me for having prime. But EGS buying exclusives just annoyed me, and I'm a petty nerd so I've stayed away from the storefront ever since. gently caress, I'll still even play the EGS exclusives, I just buy them on Playstation these days, lol. Just the EGS exclusivity poo poo annoyed me that much.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I don't know about Tencent and the morality of dev cuts, but EGS pissed me off years ago when they made Metro: Exodus a EGS exclusive relatively last minute. There was a window where if you hurried the gently caress up you could pre-order it on Steam, and I did that so I wasn't even materially harmed, but it just annoyed the piss out of me. Some publisher making a title exclusive to their launcher? I get that. I've got an ubi launcher, I've got the GoG launcher, I've even got the loving Amazon Games launcher kicking around from all the free poo poo they've given me for having prime. But EGS buying exclusives just annoyed me, and I'm a petty nerd so I've stayed away from the storefront ever since. How in the world is epic buying publishing rights different from ubi or cdprojekt having publishing rights?
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