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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I'm getting owned by moronic clickbait but what text are you even analyzing to label the modern doom games as Leftist.

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Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
they have slightly cheeky corpospeak with funny hijinks. leftist gamers should be forced to watch Railway Heroes to see good modern communist propaganda.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

In Training posted:

I'm getting owned by moronic clickbait but what text are you even analyzing to label the modern doom games as Leftist.

"Big evil corporation is evil" I guess

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Underserved demon communities are getting access to ripping and tearing.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

the take didn't surprise me, the 2.1k likes has made me feel sick

the whole subtext is that communism failed, it's dead, and with it all social progress has stopped. Everything has ground to a halt because there's no way to move to the next stage. And in this vacuum of progress the neoliberals, or moralists, are just extracting everyones money because what else is there to do in life. It doesn't negatively portray communism. It laments the fact that communism doesn't exist. It's gone and isn't coming back. And one of the results of this is a world that might just end.

Goddamn. I'm sad now over a videogame.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Regarde Aduck posted:

the take didn't surprise me, the 2.1k likes has made me feel sick

the whole subtext is that communism failed, it's dead, and with it all social progress has stopped. Everything has ground to a halt because there's no way to move to the next stage. And in this vacuum of progress the neoliberals, or moralists, are just extracting everyones money because what else is there to do in life. It doesn't negatively portray communism. It laments the fact that communism doesn't exist. It's gone and isn't coming back. And one of the results of this is a world that might just end.

Goddamn. I'm sad now over a videogame.

It's been too long since I played so I don't remember, does DE imply that communism could have stopped the threat of the pale from consuming everything?

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Fallout New Vegas is a great example of people confusing being cynical with being leftist

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

Regarde Aduck posted:

the whole subtext is that communism failed, it's dead, and with it all social progress has stopped. Everything has ground to a halt because there's no way to move to the next stage. And in this vacuum of progress the neoliberals, or moralists, are just extracting everyones money because what else is there to do in life. It doesn't negatively portray communism. It laments the fact that communism doesn't exist. It's gone and isn't coming back. And one of the results of this is a world that might just end.

If what you're saying were an accurate description of the game, that would be an anticommunist message, since communism is at its core an ideology that aims to win, not conquer moral high ground in defeat. Not to mention that communist led socialist societies do in fact exist IRL.

But what you are saying is not an accurate description of the game. :v:

Endman posted:

Fallout New Vegas is a great example of people confusing being cynical with being leftist

Disco Elysium too, but the game is pretty much a deliberate hook for the cynic in a pit of despair who can't tell the difference, and the game is quite ruthless in demonstrating the difference to give a rather unexpected message of hope (and a call to do more).

my dad has issued a correction as of 23:15 on Sep 18, 2023

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the disco elysium stick insect interaction is a genuinely beautiful moment to which the whole game builds. it's a superb final sequence

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I don't caer about winning I just want to keep kicking measurehead

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor



communism was the sole philosophy the game was remotely sympathetic too lol

on the other hand lol doom eternal

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Endman posted:

Fallout New Vegas is a great example of people confusing being cynical with being leftist

The way to get the best ending in New Vegas is to work hard on getting all the proletarian peoples to cooperate, and kill technocrats and imperialists with impunity. It's not explicitly leftist, but the project director once said "I wasn't a socialist when I wrote it, but I am now."

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020

Chamale posted:

The way to get the best ending in New Vegas is to work hard on getting all the proletarian peoples to cooperate, and kill technocrats and imperialists with impunity. It's not explicitly leftist, but the project director once said "I wasn't a socialist when I wrote it, but I am now."

really hard to do with 1 charisma...

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Dixon Chisholm posted:

really hard to do with 1 charisma...
half of them respect peace through superior firepower

the other half have corpses that can be made to respect it

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


proletarian peoples like *checks notes*

the boomers

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
When an American calls themselves a leftist there is a 99.9% likelihood they've just misunderstood political terminology, as they are wont to do. They are a profoundly stupid and confused people.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Orange Devil posted:

When an American calls themselves a leftist there is a 99.9% likelihood they've just misunderstood political terminology, as they are wont to do. They are a profoundly stupid and confused people.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Orange Devil posted:

When an American calls themselves a leftist there is a 99.9% likelihood they've just misunderstood political terminology, as they are wont to do. They are a profoundly stupid and confused people.
Appropriate thread for this post.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


FFT posted:

Appropriate thread for this post.

I disagree, that’s a pretty lukewarm take

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Fallout 3 and 4 more leftist than NV. Fallout 76 is about libertarianism and liberalism failing.

Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Zeroisanumber posted:

I want to watch the shows that prisoners write for peanuts. That poo poo would be absolutely wild.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

ikanreed posted:

Sounds like a typical DSA meeting to me :shrug:

No, I think NV is missing something to properly model your average local DSA...


*remembers Cook-Cook*

Oh, no, its in there. Its all in there.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
https://twitter.com/sirbadopinions/status/1703804461519609979

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Endman posted:

Fallout New Vegas is a great example of people confusing being cynical with being leftist

post Game of Thrones people equate cynicism with good writing.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007
https://twitter.com/k_niemietz/status/1704093894647161094?s=46&t=mzWS2vgSInnU9jlt8C3n_Q

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


that guy literally works for a free market think tank lol

his location on twitter is 55 Tufton St

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
It's a strictly apolitical job

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Party Boat posted:

that guy literally works for a free market think tank lol

his location on twitter is 55 Tufton St

the best propaganda comes from brain dead true believers

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/jameshohmann/status/1704253394771140683?t=V89LkKckN2jSsPbv6SFqTw&s=19

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/jameshohmann/status/1704253394771140683?t=V89LkKckN2jSsPbv6SFqTw&s=19

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009
You can say that again

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014

lol

https://twitter.com/K_Niemietz/status/1704405789530550678

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I love when people, trapped within their framework, demand to speak to marxism's manager

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

He's representing the fat guys who wear a hoodie and basketball shorts 365 days a year. That's a decent sized constituency which includes a fair number of goons.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

the sacred space where the slavers and genocidaires once did their work is being defiled because some ogre can't be bothered to put on a suit

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




This is far more potent succ than even Will Stancil's whiny bleating. Dear god in heaven.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Zeroisanumber posted:

He's representing the fat guys who wear a hoodie and basketball shorts 365 days a year. That's a decent sized constituency which includes a fair number of goons.

my president

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Cerebral Bore posted:

the sacred space where the slavers and genocidaires once did their work is being defiled because some ogre can't be bothered to put on a suit

What do you mean "once did"?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


This is literally just Smith's invisible hand lmao

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DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Orange Devil posted:

What do you mean "once did"?
they now do their work in think tanks, mostly

and that one Mexican restaurant where the House Freedom Caucus had Taco Tuesdays (I swear I am not making this up but it might not have been tuesdays)

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