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echinopsis posted:I really don’t know who to vote for let TVNZ tell you who to vote for: https://votecompass.tvnz.co.nz/nz2023
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Sep 18, 2023 02:39
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 So, Greens or TPM. Didn't think it'd be so close to be honest.
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Sep 18, 2023 03:19
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echinopsis posted:I really don’t know who to vote for no party will be able to deliver this
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Sep 18, 2023 07:53
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well what do we have to compromise on to get the rest
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Sep 18, 2023 08:22
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echinopsis posted:I really don’t know who to vote for If you want those things, it means ur probably not rich, and you'll have more money with greens. No one is going to be able to deliver cheaper petrol, and as for interest rates, well, I dunno. With better public transport, and more available public housing, expensive petrol and high interest rates will affect less people so I guess if you want that then the greens will deliver that even if it doesn't benefit you directly
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Sep 18, 2023 08:29
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echinopsis posted:well what do we have to compromise on to get the rest I'm willing to compromise by merely putting the rich in camps
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Sep 18, 2023 08:40
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klen dool posted:If you want those things, it means ur probably not rich, and you'll have more money with greens. No one is going to be able to deliver cheaper petrol, and as for interest rates, well, I dunno. I saw some thing that had what the various parties policies would do to the average tank of gas and greens were well above the rest for how much extra a tank would cost. with interest rates idk either. conventional wisdom is to keep interest rates high to tackle inflation, but that sucks for obvious reasons labour really have hosed themselves though. no way swing voters are going left lmao
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Sep 19, 2023 02:25
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Slavvy posted:I'm willing to compromise by merely putting the rich in camps are doctors rich? coz I won't lie, working in the health sector, putting doctors in camps isn't likely to be a positive move
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Sep 19, 2023 02:28
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I'd certainly describe doctors as well off, I know a few socially and they certainly have a lot more money than me lol. I don't know that I'd call them rich though. Someone earning $250,000 might sound rich but the RICH rich get so so so much more than that. Doctors still have to work, for example, and usually absurd hours. The rich don't work.
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Sep 19, 2023 02:43
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klen dool posted:I'd certainly describe doctors as well off, I know a few socially and they certainly have a lot more money than me lol. Shaq is rich, the guy who signed his NBA paycheques was wealthy.
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Sep 19, 2023 02:50
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echinopsis posted:I saw some thing that had what the various parties policies would do to the average tank of gas and greens were well above the rest for how much extra a tank would cost. Not sure why you think any nz government is going to be able to stop peak oil, aside from reducing the cost by a few cents in fuel levies
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Sep 19, 2023 03:09
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Lol I guess it depends on how you define the words rich, wealthy, and well off but either way I don't think people earning low 6 figures are causing social inequality.
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Sep 19, 2023 03:10
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Doctors work for a living. Wealth is when you don't have to.
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Sep 19, 2023 03:16
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exmachina posted:Doctors work for a living. Wealth is when you don't have to. Yeah it's this. Doctors don't own the means of production and actually contribute to society, pretty simple.
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Sep 19, 2023 03:36
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I think a gp makes about 180
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Sep 19, 2023 05:14
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gps are notoriously one of the worst paid doctor career paths, which is actually a huge problem. I know a gyno who makes half a mill a year working hours she chooses etc (and tbf she spent a lot or time and effort getting there). much like teachers, imagine it being a GP was a career path the state financially encouraged one can dream
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Sep 19, 2023 05:19
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klen dool posted:Lol I guess it depends on how you define the words rich, wealthy, and well off but either way I don't think people earning low 6 figures are causing social inequality. if we’re talking about the people who are only as wealthy as they are because they’ve actively made socially harmful decisions by prioritising their own wealth then yeah I agree they are bogus
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Sep 19, 2023 05:20
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echinopsis posted:I saw some thing that had what the various parties policies would do to the average tank of gas and greens were well above the rest for how much extra a tank would cost. What does full throttle climate change cost?
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Sep 19, 2023 06:02
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echinopsis posted:I saw some thing that had what the various parties policies would do to the average tank of gas and greens were well above the rest for how much extra a tank would cost. was it this? because that's not what it says
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Sep 19, 2023 06:28
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Ratios and Tendency posted:What does full throttle climate change cost? well it will make me, Jim "Texas Black Gold" McOil, a lot more money,
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Sep 19, 2023 07:14
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Ratios and Tendency posted:What does full throttle climate change cost? Mitigating climate change, but at what cost?? - the nz electorate
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Sep 19, 2023 07:16
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I look forward to a civil and chill debate.
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Sep 19, 2023 07:26
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I work in education for the most part and have an 11 month old. I'd just like the world to not get worse. Even that seems a high bar to clear.
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Sep 19, 2023 07:33
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I think a gp makes about 180 250-300 for an experienced GP at the corporate practices, for a practice owner-operator it can vary a lot but is often more.
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Sep 19, 2023 08:48
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exmarx posted:was it this? because that's not what it says
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Sep 19, 2023 21:24
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RNZ did a breakdown of the words used in the debate. Luxon said  69 times, his second most common word was well. Did anyone see if he was mansplaining to Jessica Mutch-McKay or was it just to Hipkins/the general public?
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Sep 19, 2023 22:05
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He mostly seemed to ignore JMM so was mansplaining to the public.
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Sep 19, 2023 22:25
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Winston’s TV ads say we have to “take our country back”. Does anyone have a single clue who from? I wasn’t aware we’d been invaded by anyone except Costco.
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Sep 20, 2023 07:32
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From you know...
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Sep 20, 2023 07:35
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Firstscion posted:From you know... the government he helped form save winnie from winnie
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Sep 20, 2023 07:54
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Distorted Kiwi posted:Winston’s TV ads say we have to “take our country back”. He's deliberately left it vague to both avoid being pinned down and to let voters project whichever prejudice they're into onto it.
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Sep 20, 2023 08:11
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Firstscion posted:From you know... Those people
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Sep 20, 2023 08:12
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He's right We do have to take it back from the landlords
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Sep 20, 2023 08:45
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No better or worse than National's "Let's get back on track" slogan.
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Sep 20, 2023 08:48
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Distorted Kiwi posted:Winston’s TV ads say we have to “take our country back”. The Saturday market here in Whanganui has had the local candidates running stalls for the past few weeks. Three Saturdays ago I stopped at the NZF stall and asked, in all innocence, "who from?" I poo poo you not, the first three things mentioned were, verbatim, "the WHO", "the UN", and "academics". OK, the first two have standard loony explanations but "why academics?" "Because they're indoctrinating our young." 
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Sep 20, 2023 11:01
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Technically correct...many young people leave universities with doctorates, and are always supervised by academics. QED.
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Sep 20, 2023 11:15
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Weatherman posted:The Saturday market here in Whanganui has had the local candidates running stalls for the past few weeks. Three Saturdays ago I stopped at the NZF stall and asked, in all innocence, "who from?" Lol
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Sep 20, 2023 21:37
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Weatherman posted:The Saturday market here in Whanganui has had the local candidates running stalls for the past few weeks. Three Saturdays ago I stopped at the NZF stall and asked, in all innocence, "who from?" He's got my vote!* *The day I have my brain replaced with a rotten cabbage.
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Sep 20, 2023 21:56
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sebmojo posted:Those people Similar to the NZ Loyal slogan “Loyal to you, not to them”
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I saw some instagram post saying that poo poo is a whole lot worse now than for a long time is it true that debt is at far more bogus levels than since covid is it true that a huge portion of 15yos are cant write or read I mean no judgement necessarily on who was in power when poo poo turned to poo poo, but.. hard to say that things are going well but what we need is more of the same???
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