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After my kitbash Rogue Trader kill team project, I've got an itch to do the Gellarpox as another faction of the trader's crew, like his heavy deck-clearers and boarding action mad-science monsters. What would be a similar size to nightmare hulks- penitent engine? Slave ogryn?
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:After my kitbash Rogue Trader kill team project, I've got an itch to do the Gellarpox as another faction of the trader's crew, like his heavy deck-clearers and boarding action mad-science monsters. What would be a similar size to nightmare hulks- penitent engine? Slave ogryn? 40mm bases, ogryn size.
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Sep 18, 2023 04:09
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Idle curiosity: is there an official list of what Chapter Tactics sets the big name marine chapters would use on Intercession Squad?
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Sep 18, 2023 15:56
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SuperKlaus posted:Idle curiosity: is there an official list of what Chapter Tactics sets the big name marine chapters would use on Intercession Squad? There is not, and that's probably on purpose. Fans have created their own lists, but nothing official from James Workshop. I can't imagine anything GW would list would be satisfying to the player base. In addition, I think the team fluff encourages people to pick tactics that might be against the grain of the chapter at large.
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Sep 18, 2023 18:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3KKDQ_wEU If this is true, they killed the old world at launch. What the hell lol
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Sep 19, 2023 04:33
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3KKDQ_wEU what's the tldw of the video?
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Sep 19, 2023 04:49
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That it'll launch with two box sets, one for Brettonians, one for Tomb Kings. I think he said 70-90 models in each box, along with the core rules. But old models apart from the HQs. I'm not sure what the drama is meant to be here. They've already said it'll be primarily old models to start with, and doing it this way would let them do a bigger boxes at a potentially decent price to bring people in. Assuming it's true, I'm more surprised it's split boxes instead of a starter than I am that they would use the old models to pack numbers. And yeah, it would be nice if when posting a video you could bother to post a summary instead of a dire but meaningless comment. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 19, 2023 04:55
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If I was told there were going to be separate bret and TK boxes featuring mostly old models, Id assume it was in addition to the actual launch box. I cant imagine gw would release a launch box that didnt include opposing models of some kind
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Sep 19, 2023 05:45
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As a tomb kings player, a lot of the "old" models is stuff they worked on at the launch of 8th edition and for the year following, since TKs were one of the launch armies. Many of the sculpts are very good. Some were only available in perfect-cast, which was awful at launch but they eventually worked the kinks out. I'm hopeful that this is an opportunity for me to maybe play without having to buy anything, if the rules don't require a bunch of extra crap like custom rulers or something. One thing that was... not good, about TKs, was the multipart skeleton models. You needed a lot, and while skeltons are easy to paint, those old ones were a pain in the rear end to put a lot of them together and it was also really easy to not be able to rank them properly on the small square bases. Making skeletal cavalry was also not much fun. But the big monsters, aside from the ancient skelton giant guy, were mostly really cool and fun and good kits.
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Sep 19, 2023 05:59
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I just wish they'd scan their old lines and make them downloadable as STLs. I'm like the one weirdo who likes the 5e look over the revamped Bretonnians. Sure the models themselves aren't as nice, but they are good enough for me.
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Sep 19, 2023 06:06
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I have no idea how reliable, if at all, this Valrak guy is, but I will hand it to him that as far as buy-in points go, releasing a big (presumably discount) core army in a box + rules is probably the smartest way to address the main show-stopping problem WFB had. I could see them doing it for each faction.
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Sep 19, 2023 06:55
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Atlas Hugged posted:I just wish they'd scan their old lines and make them downloadable as STLs. I'm like the one weirdo who likes the 5e look over the revamped Bretonnians. You should look at Titan Forges release this month, they are Bretonnian proxies. I really like them.
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Sep 19, 2023 07:11
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Ristolaz posted:I cant imagine gw would release a launch box that didnt include opposing models of some kind GW has said that there won't be a "starter box" but there will be boxes. This is most likely just an extrapolation of that unless there's any new info out, I'm super weary of ToW clickbait.
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Sep 19, 2023 09:57
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I have no idea how reliable, if at all, this Valrak guy is, but I will hand it to him that as far as buy-in points go, releasing a big (presumably discount) core army in a box + rules is probably the smartest way to address the main show-stopping problem WFB had. I could see them doing it for each faction. He's decently reliable to the point I assume he likely just gets fed info to "leak" since he's a fairly big warhammer youtuber who doesn't aggressively poo poo on the company or uh, minority groups.
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Sep 19, 2023 11:03
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Leperflesh posted:One thing that was... not good, about TKs, was the multipart skeleton models. You needed a lot, and while skeltons are easy to paint, those old ones were a pain in the rear end to put a lot of them together and it was also really easy to not be able to rank them properly on the small square bases. Those skellies will be going on 25mm bases now, so should hopefully be easier to position to rank up.
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Sep 19, 2023 13:06
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Atlas Hugged posted:I just wish they'd scan their old lines and make them downloadable as STLs. I'm like the one weirdo who likes the 5e look over the revamped Bretonnians. There's a guy on Cults who's basically been doing exactly that, though mostly specialist games as opposed to WHFB. Though there are a bunch of Chaos Dwarf scans. edit-- I didn't post the link: [redacted by Leperflesh  ]
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Sep 19, 2023 13:19
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Two separate army boxes makes sense - WHFB isn't geared to new players, it's geared to old grogs who can't move on. If you already have an army, buying a full starter with two armies you either have or don't care about is silly. FWIW, GW can't win with this - there's always going to be a vocal group who is going to hate whatever direction GW takes with WFB. And as for Valrak, his comment on "I'm really disappointed that they're not putting out new models" is the height of that grog bullshit - it's been known for a long, long time that WFB is going to be majority old kits with a few FW characters. I'm firmly in the "gimme old models" camp - I can finish off old collections and still play 6th/7th ed. Could GW have done better with the time they've had on this? Probably. Would they see a financial return on that investment though? Probably not. AOS is doing just fine, and has likely made more money for GW than Fantasy did in its last decade.
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Sep 19, 2023 14:02
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Count Thrashula posted:There's a guy on Cults who's basically been doing exactly that, though mostly specialist games as opposed to WHFB. Though there are a bunch of Chaos Dwarf scans. A bit ballsy to be charging for scans of official miniatures. Those look great though. Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 19, 2023 14:55
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berzerkmonkey posted:FWIW, GW can't win with this - there's always going to be a vocal group who is going to hate whatever direction GW takes with WFB. And as for Valrak, his comment on "I'm really disappointed that they're not putting out new models" is the height of that grog bullshit - it's been known for a long, long time that WFB is going to be majority old kits with a few FW characters...
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:He's decently reliable to the point I assume he likely just gets fed info to "leak" since he's a fairly big warhammer youtuber who doesn't aggressively poo poo on the company or uh, minority groups. From what I've seen he's just pretty good at mental gymnastics to prove his leaks and predictions were right. (And by his I mean the stuff he grabs off of reddit to amplify) Like in the lead up the 10th, he was saying in his videos that the contest was rigged and they were going to announce a tie and show off both armies. When tyranids won he started shouting 'I told you it was rigged, nobody that voted actually played a game. They didn't want the tyranids to win, they only cared about space marines losing. '
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Sep 19, 2023 16:11
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berzerkmonkey posted:FWIW, GW can't win with this - there's always going to be a vocal group who is going to hate whatever direction GW takes with WFB. And as for Valrak, his comment on "I'm really disappointed that they're not putting out new models" is the height of that grog bullshit - it's been known for a long, long time that WFB is going to be majority old kits with a few FW characters. I'm firmly in the "gimme old models" camp - I can finish off old collections and still play 6th/7th ed. I think what sucks about the no new models thing is that they heavily implied early on that Kislev would be a new army, they even showed off concept designs with the old world branding on them. Now those designs were used for Total War Warhammer 3 but it still feels like they had bigger plans they had to scale back. I'll still buy TOW anyway because I missed out on WFB and I want those models but personally I wish they were doing more. Lucinice fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 19, 2023 16:12
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I remember hearing, which could be total bs, that because of the rights TotalWarhammer had, GW couldn't release new old world models like the ones in the game until the last dlc is released. Maybe that's why the release has been so slow in coming. Or its bs.
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Sep 19, 2023 17:14
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:From what I've seen he's just pretty good at mental gymnastics to prove his leaks and predictions were right. (And by his I mean the stuff he grabs off of reddit to amplify) Yeah, I don't think he's particularly reliable, just loud.
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Count Thrashula posted:There's a guy on Cults who's basically been doing exactly that, though mostly specialist games as opposed to WHFB. Though there are a bunch of Chaos Dwarf scans. this looks like scans of official GW minis, which is pretty blatant copyright violation, and we don't link to this sort of thing on the forums, sorry. I'll have to remove that link, too. e. wait am I wrong? Are these custom non-GW figs? I feel like I recognize them. e2. yeah they're official minis. Out-of-print stuff is kinda borderline but GW keeps every single mold forever and is especially litigious, so let's be super careful here. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 19, 2023 17:26
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Why would you want scans of old garbage when there are people doing their 3d sculpts that are clear upgrades over older gw minis? Like highland miniatures has a lot of decent stuff
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Sep 19, 2023 17:59
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It's this or scalpers, and I'd rather pay the scanner for their time and work. If GW wants me to buy their OOP Mordheim sculpts, they can sell them to me. That formerly linked guy doesn't do a lot of cleanup or prep, though. I got his vampire mercenary which had a bent sword and barely a face.
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Sep 19, 2023 18:08
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Like in the lead up the 10th, he was saying in his videos that the contest was rigged and they were going to announce a tie and show off both armies. When tyranids won he started shouting 'I told you it was rigged, nobody that voted actually played a game. They didn't want the tyranids to win, they only cared about space marines losing. ' To be fair, I am one of those guys that just took my code and voted for Tyranids without playing. But, I wanted to see cool new bugs, instead of marine #257.
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Sep 19, 2023 18:10
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There's generally going to be a lot of that on both sides and it typically cancels out.
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goodness posted:I remember hearing, which could be total bs, that because of the rights TotalWarhammer had, GW couldn't release new old world models like the ones in the game until the last dlc is released. Maybe that's why the release has been so slow in coming. Or its bs. I mean GW makes weird business decisions so it's possible but that's sounds like they worst way to go about it especially if the game gets multiple years of support. Covermeinsunshine posted:Why would you want scans of old garbage when there are people doing their 3d sculpts that are clear upgrades over older gw minis? Like highland miniatures has a lot of decent stuff You know where I can get some chorfs? I wanna play chorfs. Lucinice fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 19, 2023 18:36
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Leperflesh posted:this looks like scans of official GW minis, which is pretty blatant copyright violation, and we don't link to this sort of thing on the forums, sorry. I'll have to remove that link, too. That's fair! I thought they'd be okay because they're like 20 years out of print, but I totally respect your decision.
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Lucinice posted:I mean GW makes weird business decisions so it's possible but that's sounds like they worst way to go about it especially if the game gets multiple years of support. of the top of my head https://www.patreon.com/LostKingdomMiniatures/posts?fbclid=IwAR1K-_XJU5Oo-f5v9_uJPHP6vrrZxx1OUOrkpCdCQ8jjro7busrgUfOJrgE has multiple units and nice designs
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Covermeinsunshine posted:Why would you want scans of old garbage when there are people doing their 3d sculpts that are clear upgrades over older gw minis? Like highland miniatures has a lot of decent stuff moths posted:It's this or scalpers, and I'd rather pay the scanner for their time and work. If GW wants me to buy their OOP Mordheim sculpts, they can sell them to me. Haha yeah. I got a scan of the Felix (of Gotrek fame) and the sword was twisted almost a full 90 degrees. It's metal man... just bend it back into shape or tweak your scan for god's sake.
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Sep 19, 2023 18:53
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berzerkmonkey posted:Highlands has great stuff, but there is a charm to the old stuff, whether you like the original models or not. Also, Highlands don't look right next to a full 6th ed army, for instance. Scans are a great way for people to fill gaps in their collections without having to pay outrageous Ebay collector's pricing. Check a designer called Monstruous Encounters, his designs have a decent old/retro vibe.
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Angry Lobster posted:Check a designer called Monstruous Encounters, his designs have a decent old/retro vibe. Yeah, they are good. I just finished a metal Sisters of Sigmar warband for Mordheim, and am tempted to do another with the ME models that I picked up during the sale. Of course, Heresy Labs has a kickass set too, and had I known about them during the sale, I would have snapped up those files as well. And for anyone looking, Avatars of War has good modern fantasy models with a retro GW feel. Their orc/goblin/beastmen skeletons are fantastic and would make a great Cursed Company.
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Lucinice posted:You know where I can get some chorfs? I wanna play chorfs. Fabelzel does amazing work for Big Hat chorfs.
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Covermeinsunshine posted:of the top of my head https://www.patreon.com/LostKingdomMiniatures/posts?fbclid=IwAR1K-_XJU5Oo-f5v9_uJPHP6vrrZxx1OUOrkpCdCQ8jjro7busrgUfOJrgE has multiple units and nice designs Hedningen posted:Fabelzel does amazing work for Big Hat chorfs. These two sources combined should get me what I need. Thanks much
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I like the 90s sculpts because they're what I wanted as a kid and couldn't afford. It's not really anything deeper than that. I don't really like the shields on the barding in the newer Bretonnian sculpts and I like the faux-Arthurian characters from 5e which now are frankly impossible to get.
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berzerkmonkey posted:FWIW, GW can't win with this - there's always going to be a vocal group who is going to hate whatever direction GW takes with WFB. And as for Valrak, his comment on "I'm really disappointed that they're not putting out new models" is the height of that grog bullshit - it's been known for a long, long time that WFB is going to be majority old kits with a few FW characters. wanting new shiny toys is the least grog opinion i can imagine a fan ever having tbh i admit, i had not considered the possibility that old world was gonna just be a one-and-done thing
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Unless I missed it, there's no reason to think it will be one and done. Well, if it turns out to not be viable I guess, but otherwise they seem pretty intent on trying to bring it back as a living system.
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I will almost certainly never play a game of it, but I will probably buy at the very least a couple of Combat Patrol equivalents.
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