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Nobody like piss filter until piss filter gone smh
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I always stood up for it! I'm one of those freaks who doesn't mind heavy colour grading. But man, taking the filter out and replacing it with nothing when the levels were designed for it was a bad look.
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Sep 6, 2023 02:45
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I knocked the amber filter when the game first came out, but seeing the mod that restores it to the DC edition made me realized Human Revolution uses that filter probably as well as Traffic.
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Sep 6, 2023 03:08
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aniviron posted:I always stood up for it! I'm one of those freaks who doesn't mind heavy colour grading. Same. Also bloom and motion blur  I mean yeah when I'm playing a competitive shooter where I wanna see what's going on I'm not above plunging the graphics settings to the point of ridiculousness, but in a normal game I'm taking slow, especially if the art director designed it with that in mind, I truly don't understand why people dislike these kinds of stylization. But then I have strong opinions about game art purity in general. I have yet to see a graphics mod for Deus Ex, or like, any retro game, that I actually think makes it look better rather than just weird x256 Minecraft Texture Syndrome where you have a ridiculous mismatch of texture and model quality. Maybe this is a sketchier argument for a Deus Ex 1 remaster than like, the Halo one, since we were never dealing with an aesthetic design that blew anyone's socks off to begin with, but I think pretty universally the people concepting out and designing their game during its initial creation have better visions (and often talent) than people coming in and rehashing it years later.
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Sep 6, 2023 05:53
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Yeah basically agreed 100%. I played a lot of competitive games and sure you do whatever you gotta to see things a tenth of a second faster in them but that's part of the joy of a singleplayer game, the only winning is if you enjoy the game and luxuriating in a sumptuous aesthetic is definitely enjoyment, I don't give a poo poo if it makes it hard to see. I will say that from time to time you do get mods that make games look better but it's pretty rare, and when it happens it's either something which completely overhauls the game or something which is very very narrow in scope. While Revision isn't my cup of tea, at least it's cohesive, but dropping Revision's models into DX looks terrible. On the other hand, mods which really pay attention to the original art constraints can shine; the Lady Denton mod does a great job sticking to the original art's poly counts and texel density. Most mods lack the perspective that an art director's role normally plays in game dev; it's not enough to make good art, it has to feel unified.
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Sep 6, 2023 06:51
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I thought the Turok re-releases looked great. But they were pretty much just the original art plus high resolution and motion blur iirc?
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Sep 6, 2023 19:20
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ive been an advocate of the piss filter since the game came out & i feel vindicated by history
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Sep 7, 2023 00:03
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VERY COOL MAN posted:ive been an advocate of the piss filter since the game came out & i feel vindicated by history There was a strong brown filter affinity in games and movies back then. I still wanna know what it was but I never thought it's bad. Nowadays everything is cyan/magenta CGA 80s thing but it always was about how it's executed.
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Sep 7, 2023 00:28
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No wait I got it. They were doing the complementary color thing 
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Sep 7, 2023 00:34
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Vic posted:There was a strong brown filter affinity in games and movies back then. I still wanna know what it was but I never thought it's bad. Nowadays everything is cyan/magenta CGA 80s thing but it always was about how it's executed. totally, late 00s into early 10s was maximum brown/grey/whatever filters to look realistic or gritty or whatever, but i think what dxhr does is in service of a different enough aesthetic that it works
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Sep 7, 2023 23:39
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VERY COOL MAN posted:totally, late 00s into early 10s was maximum brown/grey/whatever filters to look realistic or gritty or whatever, but i think what dxhr does is in service of a different enough aesthetic that it works Yeah it works, DXHR is supposed to be evocative of the enlightenment, so of course the sun is yellow and we're doing the Icarus thing because we're playing god etc. I unironically like it but I'm still kinda mad about the prequels being so stupid about the refrences.
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Sep 8, 2023 00:01
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The art direction in the Jensen games is so good.
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Sep 8, 2023 00:03
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Grand Fromage posted:The art direction in the Jensen games is so good.
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Sep 8, 2023 00:45
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I would legit buy some of those jackets and vests if I could find quality pieces based on them. The elaborate, angular dresses also look great on the women. It's too bad fashion didn't go in that direction instead of point less attention grabbing garbage and having streetwear making dressing like a slob and athleisure like someone who goes to planet fitness the height of fashion.
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Sep 8, 2023 00:52
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Shumagorath posted:I remember the lead art director defending the weird renaissance clothes on the grounds a definite style would age better than hyperrealism, and boy was he right. That guy is peak Montréal and I hope he’s still with the devs. Oh yeah. He knows his poo poo. It reminds me of how Babylon 5's space scenes still look great despite being made on like 386s or whatever the gently caress. Strong design overcomes technical limitations.
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Sep 8, 2023 00:52
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I think B5's space scenes wind up sufficing more on the incredible writing carrying the mediocre visuals, so even if it's not always a visual treat I'm so invested that it doesn't matter - which is very relevant to the first Deus Ex. But yeah, art design always outshines graphical detail. There are games 20, 30 years old which people still adore on their looks, and rightly so.
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Sep 8, 2023 03:05
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The only downside to the art direction was the lack of npc variations. Letitia, a woman who dug through the trash, was dressed the same way as the women working in the techbro company. Remember Letitia? I remember Letitia.
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Sep 8, 2023 03:10
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I remember her voice acting that's for sure
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Sep 8, 2023 03:15
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Momomo posted:The only downside to the art direction was the lack of npc variations. Letitia, a woman who dug through the trash, was dressed the same way as the women working in the techbro company. The comments from the Director's Cut are basically "What the gently caress were we thinking???"
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Sep 8, 2023 03:18
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Gynovore posted:The comments from the Director's Cut are basically "What the gently caress were we thinking???" I appreciated that there were a number of those comments that were just "man we really hosed this up, this sucks. sorry dudes"
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Sep 8, 2023 03:20
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Grand Fromage posted:I appreciated that there were a number of those comments that were just "man we really hosed this up, this sucks. sorry dudes" There were others?
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Sep 8, 2023 03:24
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Gynovore posted:There were others? It's been a long time since I played it but I remember multiple. Not like oh boy this was offensive the way the Latetia one was, but just talking about how they screwed something up in development.
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Sep 8, 2023 03:43
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Grand Fromage posted:I appreciated that there were a number of those comments that were just "man we really hosed this up, this sucks. sorry dudes"
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Sep 8, 2023 03:57
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Yeah, they're very candid about their mistakes and in areas where their reach exceeded their grasp, but you can tell they loved the series and wanted to do right by it.
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Sep 8, 2023 06:04
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Grand Fromage posted:It's been a long time since I played it but I remember multiple. Not like oh boy this was offensive the way the Latetia one was, but just talking about how they screwed something up in development. Ah ok. I don't think there were any other really racist bits. In the far northern part of Detroit there's a 'homeboy' who will sell you weapons, he's kind of a stereotype but not hugely.
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Sep 9, 2023 13:51
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I haven't played Deus Ex 1 since like 2007 and kind of want to play it now. I've heard a lot of GMDX but I don't know if it's too much changing or what. Does GMDX keep the authentic experience? Or is the original with some new render the way to go?
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Sep 10, 2023 20:50
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Pooperscooper posted:I haven't played Deus Ex 1 since like 2007 and kind of want to play it now. I've heard a lot of GMDX but I don't know if it's too much changing or what. Does GMDX keep the authentic experience? Or is the original with some new render the way to go? GMDX is supposed to overhaul a lot of mechanical stuff. If you're looking for rather minimal changes/quality of life updates, I think Biomod's the way to go if you want to mod it. There should be some info about getting better rendering in the OP.
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Sep 10, 2023 20:53
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GMDX is a lot of fun but it's substantially different. Maybe true to the spirit of the game, but the differences are large. Shifter and Biomod are much more to the effect of vanilla with tweaks.
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Sep 10, 2023 21:30
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Things I didn't have on my 2023 bingo card: https://www.pcgamer.com/14-years-later-the-deus-ex-mod-thats-a-better-sequel-than-invisible-war-gets-a-massive-overhaul/
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Sep 13, 2023 17:38
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Huh. I tried playing it long ago and bounced off real hard, but I guess this is a good chance to try again.
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Sep 13, 2023 17:59
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I should give it another chance just for the gameplay. Try to see not being a part of that community 20 years ago and not understanding all the dumb in jokes as part of the charm.
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Sep 13, 2023 18:03
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It was also like a really niche community within the Deus Ex community, I never interacted with them and I was plenty active within the Deus Ex multiplayer community (real DCSB hours tap if u up)
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Lemon-Lime posted:Things I didn't have on my 2023 bingo card: Well dip me in chocolate and call me a Mars bar
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Lemon-Lime posted:Things I didn't have on my 2023 bingo card: Holy poo poo, I can't freekin' believe that a 14 year old mod for a 24 year old game got a huge update. Especially since the game was conceived by the Gamespy forums, which vanished several years ago. A dude posted:Huh. I tried playing it long ago and bounced off real hard, but I guess this is a good chance to try again. I can understand not liking all the OMG INTERNET HUMOR LOLOLOL!! (I mean seriously, one item is 'lollerskates') But still the gameplay is rock solid.
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I'm trying to run Deus Ex GOTY but it always crashes when I finish the setup. I'm trying the fixes from the first page of the thread, but nothing seems to be working. Specifically the "Deus EXE" launcher.
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Gynovore posted:I can understand not liking all the OMG INTERNET HUMOR LOLOLOL!! (I mean seriously, one item is 'lollerskates') But still the gameplay is rock solid. Yeah I just don't use the terribly rendered joke weapons and it's mostly a fun experience. Time for another playthrough! Grimthwacker posted:I'm trying to run Deus Ex GOTY but it always crashes when I finish the setup. I'm trying the fixes from the first page of the thread, but nothing seems to be working. Specifically the "Deus EXE" launcher. Is that Kentie's launcher? I don't think you can launch from installation, you have to run the exe after installation completes.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Is that Kentie's launcher? I don't think you can launch from installation, you have to run the exe after installation completes. Yeah, I can't even start the game properly from the initial setup post installation; it just crashes right after launch. I honestly have no idea what's wrong.
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Sep 20, 2023 17:27
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When you try to run it again do you get the safe mode launcher that lets you change your renderer, etc? Might be worth checking through your options there.
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I got everything working, I just have poor reading comprehension. I've only finished Liberty Island so I can't say how much more GMDX adds to things but I appreciate the quality of life upgrades. I also spent more time around the Statue's perimeter and I found a small area I didn't know about with a clip and laser sight upgrade, perfect for the 10 mil; it certainly came in handy when I triggered a bunch of guards in the Statue's roof area. I don't like how you have to toggle the sight on again every time you reequip the weapon.
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Played through PDX last night in TNM and it's a great encapsulation of what's good and bad about the mod. Having these little trap rooms with a crazed AI after you? Great! Having that crazed AI do stupid movie quotes while taunting you? Bad!
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