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Also three of the last four Super Bowls have had a starting QB in his second or third year in the league (and the one exception featured Mahomes in year 4). Definitely can't say that the Moore/[hypothetical 2024 draft QB] windows don't overlap at all
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the bears should actually be prohibited by NFL bylaws from drafting a quarterback
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if the bears end up with the #1 pick again and are going to pick Caleb, why wouldn't he just take a few million in NIL and go back to college, no responsible agent would let their client go to the bears to have the career destroyed.
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R.D. Mangles posted:the bears should actually be prohibited by NFL bylaws from drafting a quarterback If the Union cared about player safety it would be in the next collective bargaining agreement
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Niwrad posted:Assuming this year is a waste, they'd have 2 years of control left on DJ Moore. Even with Caleb Williams, you're still a few years away from playing for anything. Would you rather have that at a high price or some picks you can use to bring in another wide receiver with 5 years of control instead? You are looking at 2 top five picks. If you get Caleb, you can still take MHJ and then ruin them like they do everything else.
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the bears should only be prohibited from drafted skill position players except for running backs until they prove they can be responsible.
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Does anybody have Greg Roman's number this is not a joke
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Worst part of my week was when I was thinking maybe if they win this week, they can turn things around and then I looked at the schedule.
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R.D. Mangles posted:if the bears end up with the #1 pick again and are going to pick Caleb, why wouldn't he just take a few million in NIL and go back to college, no responsible agent would let their client go to the bears to have the career destroyed. Can’t draftees refuse to play for teams?
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ngl the most bears thing in the world would be to somehow win this game on some fluke poo poo, and then lose out.
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Caleb Williams is not going to be a Chicago Bear, according to his dad:quote:"The way the system is constructed, you go to the worst possible situation," Carl Williams told GQ.com. "The worst possible team, the worst organization in the league -- because of their desire for parity -- gets the first pick. So it's the gift and the curse. I mean, I've talked to Archie Manning -- his career was shot because he went to a horrible organization. I've talked to Lincoln [Riley], and Kyler [Murray] struggled because of where he was drafted. Baker [Mayfield] struggled mightily because of where he was drafted.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Caleb Williams is not going to be a Chicago Bear, according to his dad: Very funny to mention kyler with kliff on the usc staff
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R.D. Mangles posted:Caleb Williams is not going to be a Chicago Bear, according to his dad: Caleb Williams refusing to play for the teams picking 1-4, as if they won't be right loving back there next year 
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Forrest on Fire posted:Caleb Williams refusing to play for the teams picking 1-4, as if they won't be right loving back there next year This is actually a problem with his argument going back to school isn’t going to make next years top pickers any better
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yeah, like that's just a situation where you probably have to go talk with Caleb and get exactly the offense and people in place he wants, and include him on like coaching discussions if you get the number one pick, because yeah if the Bears get the number one pick this year Flus is gone, and he can dictate the coach lol.
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Forrest on Fire posted:Caleb Williams refusing to play for the teams picking 1-4, as if they won't be right loving back there next year Maybe he can become a surgeon and put his brain to use I cannot imagine how much a QB has to memorise and understand. I only recently learned what the various formations do (and didn’t understand much of it. Football has more terminology than STEM lol)
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R.D. Mangles posted:if the bears end up with the #1 pick again and are going to pick Caleb, why wouldn't he just take a few million in NIL and go back to college, no responsible agent would let their client go to the FAT32 SHAMER posted:Maybe he can become a surgeon and put his brain to use Best way to think of it, is what is the nerd hobby youve had since you were 14. Almost the great QBs in the last 15ish years (Manning, Brady, Brees, Mahomes etc.) all study football endlessly. So they have so many things down Pat formations and alignments are 2nd nature to them. Paint Crop Pro fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Sep 20, 2023 |
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Dexo posted:yeah, like that's just a situation where you probably have to go talk with Caleb and get exactly the offense and people in place he wants, and include him on like coaching discussions if you get the number one pick, because yeah if the Bears get the number one pick this year Flus is gone, and he can dictate the coach lol. GM Caleb Williams would probably do better than the Bears on offense but does anybody expect the Bears to give a player, even a franchise QB, that much autonomy? The Cardinals are an equal level clown show org and are even less likely to accommodate a player request than the Bears lol
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Chicago seems like a very dramatic town and could probably use some kind of food not native to there to calm it down. Like a tavern style pizza or a steak sandwich.
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Beer and Sausage and Pizzas as big as spare tires are perfect tyvm.
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sponges posted:Can’t draftees refuse to play for teams? Archie Manning refused to allow Eli to play for a podunk market like San Diego, so they wound up with Rivers instead. No idea if that sort of thing has happened as overtly since then. John Elway is the other prominent historic example that comes to mind.
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Dexo posted:Free Justin Jefferson and Anthony Edwards imo Free Kirk Cousins. Please, take him. Seriously, no charge. All yours. Enjoy!
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Victor Vermis posted:Archie Manning refused to allow Eli to play for a podunk market like San Diego, so they wound up with Rivers instead. I think in modern history it's just those two. I don't know why more players don't try it really.
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Nervous posted:Free Kirk Cousins. Please, take him. Seriously, no charge. All yours. Enjoy! The most I'm buying you the gift of a car note pick up ever.
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Henchman of Santa posted:I think in modern history it's just those two. I don't know why more players don't try it really. Because you are pushing back your payday a year, and like playing on a bad team will only really really affect QB's. Like a Wide Reciever who is great, is going to be good and get paid regardless, maybe less paid than if they were on a good team. DJ Moore has played with some rear end QB's and he got paid, ditto with Allen Robinson. A Defensive end is going to flash(unless just like massively bad scheme fit) regardless of how rear end the rest of the defense is. QB's are like the only position where like you could be decent, or have potential and unless you somehow pull a Geno Smith, you are hosed and forever a backup at best, if you get to an rear end situation.
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Henchman of Santa posted:I think in modern history it's just those two. I don't know why more players don't try it really. Jim Kelly and Steve Young, kind of. They went to the USFL rather than play for the teams that drafted them. Kelly actually got drafted, by the Bills, who he really didn't want to play for, but ended up playing for anyway two years later because they still had his rights. Young was projected to go to the Bengals and sit on the bench, so told them he was signing with the USFL instead, and the Bengals traded the pick away. He got drafted in the supplemental draft the next year by the Buccaneers.
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Bernie Kosar also did some fuckery to make sure he went to the team he wanted, and not the team with the first pick in the regular draft. There was some extreme collusion between him and the Browns to have him go first in the supplemental draft.
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Bo Jackson, too. Went to play baseball instead.
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Ernie Davis I guess could qualify too, though he publicly claimed he didn't instigate the trade. But I think it could be reasonably inferred that not wanting to play for the most racist owner after being the first black Heisman winner was presumable. For those of you wondering why you haven't heard of him, he got traded to the Browns and then promptly died of leukemia before playing a down for them at age 23.
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Abugadu posted:Ernie Davis I guess could qualify too, though he publicly claimed he didn't instigate the trade. But I think it could be reasonably inferred that not wanting to play for the most racist owner after being the first black Heisman winner was presumable. He clearly took the lesser of two evils.
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C-Euro posted:The big takeaway from yesterday is that it was almost certainly too early for CJGJ to claim league villain status for the team, let's win a couple more games first. I can't think of who it was, but I swear there was another free agent acquisition (or maybe draft pick?) for Detroit who was also like "yeah this team has sucked forever but it's DIFFERENT NOW 'cuz I'M HERE!!!" immediately before the team flopped yet again.
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Dr. Lunchables posted:Chicago seems like a very dramatic town and could probably use some kind of food not native to there to calm it down. Like a tavern style pizza or a steak sandwich. Chicago's got food they need football operations people and maybe like another 300 therapists
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But eating large amounts of food is therapy. I hope.
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Forrest on Fire posted:Chicago's got food they need football operations people and maybe like another 300 therapists
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:300 therapists just for the Bears team, right? Do you think 5 therapists per Bear is not enough?
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Forrest on Fire posted:Chicago's got food they need football operations people and maybe like another 300 therapists  Their facilities have bad food options which is funny considering the city is world class for dining
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Forrest on Fire posted:Do you think 5 therapists per Bear is not enough?
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