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Absurd Alhazred posted:There were already seeds of the right-wing turn in the first one, though. "Nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off! It wasn't my war! You asked me, I didn't ask you! And I did what I had to do to win! But somebody wouldn't let us win! And I come back to the world and I see all those maggots at the airport, protesting me, spitting. Calling me baby killer and all kinds of vile crap! Who are they to protest me, huh? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about!" Which, incidentally, is only 20 or so words less than Rambo says in the entire of First Blood Part II.
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TGG posted:It's why The Last Action Hero is the best Arnold movie. It knows exactly what it is, it has one of the best villain actors of the era in Charles Dance and it just rolls with it being nonsense. Not a GREAT movie by any stretch but it nailed what it was. It could've been action move Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but it never quite got there. I have always called The Last Action Hero - "The thinking man's version of Purple Rose of Cairo"
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TGG posted:It's why The Last Action Hero is the best Arnold movie. It knows exactly what it is, it has one of the best villain actors of the era in Charles Dance and it just rolls with it being nonsense. Not a GREAT movie by any stretch but it nailed what it was. It could've been action move Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but it never quite got there. That was the movie that, as a child, made me decide if I ever lost an eye, I was going to have a bunch of fun ones, like the smiley face.
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TGG posted:It's why The Last Action Hero is the best Arnold movie. It knows exactly what it is, it has one of the best villain actors of the era in Charles Dance and it just rolls with it being nonsense. Not a GREAT movie by any stretch but it nailed what it was. It could've been action move Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but it never quite got there. Was Charles Dance the villain? I thought it was F. Murray Abraham. He killed Mozart, you know.
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Sep 21, 2023 14:12
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TGG posted:It's why The Last Action Hero is the best Arnold movie. It knows exactly what it is, it has one of the best villain actors of the era in Charles Dance and it just rolls with it being nonsense. Not a GREAT movie by any stretch but it nailed what it was. It could've been action move Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but it never quite got there. The Last Action Hero is one of my faves and is criminally underrated. It definitely gets weaker once they return to the real world, but it's still very good. It - along with the two Terminator movies - is also clear proof that Arnold was absolutely a good actor and he either chose or was directed to give his distinctive "bad" performances in most of his other films. Like just compare Arnie and Patrick in T2 to how most other people play Terminators - they come across as actual inhuman machines, while most actors just come across bored or stoic. Nailing that performance is actually really difficult.
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Well of course YOU'VE got opinions on robots
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sick of Applebees posted:Well of course YOU'VE got opinions on robots And on nailing the performance.
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Meaty Ore posted:Was Charles Dance the villain? I thought it was F. Murray Abraham. He killed Mozart, you know. Wow you're right, gently caress Murray Abraham.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:The Last Action Hero is one of my faves and is criminally underrated. It definitely gets weaker once they return to the real world, but it's still very good. All I've seen from that movie is Charles Dances "I've just shot a man! I did it on purpose!" scene, and I know that the rest of it cannot possibly live up to that.
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Yeah Last Action Hero is very enjoyable but suffers a bit from the "it was ahead of its time" pitches that throw the highlights at you.
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darkwasthenight posted:We managed a pretty much sexless version of Grease at school too. One of the year 1 classes at my daughter's school performed a Grease medley today. It was heavily remixed and edited.
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Meaty Ore posted:I thought it was F. Murray Abraham. He killed Mozart, you know.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Like just compare Arnie and Patrick in T2 to how most other people play Terminators - they come across as actual inhuman machines, while most actors just come across bored or stoic. Nailing that performance is actually really difficult. Robert Patrick really nailed that role. I had watched T2 many times before seeing the Westworld movie. I read somewhere that Patrick based his approach off Yul Brynner's, and I can believe; they both had great performances.
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Meaty Ore posted:Was Charles Dance the villain? I thought it was F. Murray Abraham. He killed Mozart, you know. Dance is definitely the main villain. I'm pretty sure F. Murray Abraham is only openly antagonistic in a single scene, right when he starts monologuing he's shot and killed by a cartoon cat.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:The Last Action Hero is one of my faves and is criminally underrated. It definitely gets weaker once they return to the real world, but it's still very good. I wonder sometimes how T2 would have turned out with the original choice of Blackie Lawless of WASP as the T-1000 (vetoed by Arnold for being taller than him). Certainly the T-1000 role goes against the horny wild man persona Blackie cultivated as a metal musician.
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Oh the plus side Blackie would have brought his own pyrotechnics for the steel mill scene.
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Meaty Ore posted:Was Charles Dance the villain? I thought it was F. Murray Abraham. He killed Mozart, you know. The funny thing about Amadeus is that the real story of who commissioned the Requiem is far funnier than it being Salieri - A man called Count Von Walsegg actually commissioned it for his wife's funeral, as he wanted to pass it off as his own work as he was an infamous plagiarist. Apparently it took a colleague about 12 months of bugging him before he finally admitted that it was Mozart's work. https://concert-vienna.com/blogs/vi...fe%27s%20death.
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I watched Grease Live back a few years ago when live TV musicals were a thing for a few months, and the work of the sanitation department on the script was more fascinating than the performances. Edit: Just watch this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBzFq3M291U evobatman has a new favorite as of 18:53 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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Offler posted:Dance is definitely the main villain. I'm pretty sure F. Murray Abraham is only openly antagonistic in a single scene, right when he starts monologuing he's shot and killed by a cartoon cat. You mean the one scene where where the joke you quoted comes from?
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“In the real world, the villains can win” is an incredible subject that the movie is not really willing to go all the way on since it’s still a mostly family-friendly action movie at its core, but I can definitely still appreciate it.
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I dunno, It's a Wonderful Life is played at Christmas time for millions and Mr. Potter still kinda wins at the end (or he's certainly $5000 richer)
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I watch fiction because I want to go to a world where evil loses for once.
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Aces High posted:I dunno, It's a Wonderful Life is played at Christmas time for millions and Mr. Potter still kinda wins at the end (or he's certainly $5000 richer) That's definitely the weirdest part of the movie, there's no resolution to Uncle Billy losing the money. Except for the old SNL sketch where Billy remembers and they all go to beat up Mr Potter.
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Pigbuster posted:“In the real world, the villains can win” is an incredible subject that the movie is not really willing to go all the way on since it’s still a mostly family-friendly action movie at its core, but I can definitely still appreciate it. It's especially notable in the first bit of Dance walking aroun in the real world and he sees a strung-out teenage hooker and a hobo getting killed for his shoes and he's visibly kinda shocked and disgusted, because he's from a universe of grandiose cinematic supervillainy, banal real-world crime is kinda upsetting to his PG-13 sensibilities. At least until he realizes the implications that he's now in a universe where crime and misery are allowed to be commonplace to the point of banality.
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That’s one thing I really appreciate about It’s a Wonderful Life: it’s very honest about how disappointment and occasional misery are part of life. George has aspirations that go unfulfilled, and it’s not like he decides he’s better off—he just accepts that sometimes the capitalists cause a depression and sometimes there’s a world war, and you just have to keep living. I thought it would be saccharine, but there’s a little bit of everything in it.
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TGG posted:It's why The Last Action Hero is the best Arnold movie. It knows exactly what it is, it has one of the best villain actors of the era in Charles Dance and it just rolls with it being nonsense. Not a GREAT movie by any stretch but it nailed what it was. It could've been action move Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but it never quite got there.
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I AM GRANDO posted:That’s one thing I really appreciate about It’s a Wonderful Life: it’s very honest about how disappointment and occasional misery are part of life. George has aspirations that go unfulfilled, and it’s not like he decides he’s better off—he just accepts that sometimes the capitalists cause a depression and sometimes there’s a world war, and you just have to keep living. I thought it would be saccharine, but there’s a little bit of everything in it. Yeah it's a really fuckin good movie. George has to give up on his early dreams, but the world needs him anyway, and life remains worth living.
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One of my dreams in life is to go to a funeral, lean over the casket, then yell to the mourners in Arnold voice, "This man is not deaaaad!!"
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So many Last Action Hero quotes, but not the best one? “If God was a villain…he’d be me.”
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The chief is just mad because you blew up more of the city than usual
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the_steve posted:The chief is just mad because you blew up more of the city than usual https://youtu.be/XGoU7urNTbI?si=Qhq9uveODBDWdqSs
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mind the walrus posted:Yeah Last Action Hero is very enjoyable but suffers a bit from the "it was ahead of its time" pitches that throw the highlights at you. this but for Megamind. the idea of an incel getting superpowers and deciding to kill the girl he's lusted after is pretty intense. I don't know if it would be made today because some assholes might get the wrong message. and it has some great lines too. one of the best being the fish minion confronting Megamind about lying to the girl: "And what's going to happen when Roxanne finds out you're not who you say you are?" "She's never going to find out! THAT'S THE POINT OF LYING."
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Megamind has a lot going on in a relatively simple setup. Quite a lot of subtle themes about choice and social roles. I feel one subtle bit they coulda made more of is Roxanne is the obvious choice for a good-natured human to empower if Megamind really wants a new superhero to square off against, she's arguably more heroic than Metroman- certainly more motivated- but Megamind has her solidly categorised as the damsel in distress in his mind. Also interesting in this age of a bunch of 'What if Superman but EEEEVIL' takes is that you get a 'What if Superman but neutral' one; Metroman isn't a bad person at all, and people pick up on that, but he's bored stiff and burnt out on being a superhero all the time. (Exactly the reason why Clark Kent keeps his secret identity, incidentally) There's some fun theorising on When they find him in his lair and he's learning to play guitar, and is comically bad at it- but of course he is, he's only just gotten started. Seems an implication that music is one of the few challenges he's encountered that his powers don't immediately trivialise, and that's why he's interested in it, as he's actively learning with instructional videos and practicing while getting some of the first time to himself he's had in forever.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Megamind has a lot going on in a relatively simple setup. Quite a lot of subtle themes about choice and social roles. I feel one subtle bit they coulda made more of is Roxanne is the obvious choice for a good-natured human to empower if Megamind really wants a new superhero to square off against, she's arguably more heroic than Metroman- certainly more motivated- but Megamind has her solidly categorised as the damsel in distress in his mind. Also both him and Megamind are really bad at branding. He names himself Music Man because that way "He gets to keep his logo" and Megamind ends up naming Hal "Tighten" because it's the only name he can trademark - since the other media with him spell it like that, I like to think that Titan spelled correctly was already taken because that's funnier to me than Hal misspelling it.
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BioEnchanted posted:Also both him and Megamind are really bad at branding. He names himself Music Man because that way "He gets to keep his logo" and Megamind ends up naming Hal "Tighten" because it's the only name he can trademark - since the other media with him spell it like that, I like to think that Titan spelled correctly was already taken because that's funnier to me than Hal misspelling it. Naw it's revealed that Megamind's plan was to call him Titan and Hal just doesn't know words goodly  They actually both pronounce it slightly differently, you can hear Megamind pronounce it with an 'a' and Hal pronounce it was an 'e'
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i still loving love when Space-Dad gives Titan a very tiny outfit; "I have a son?"
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The movie is good, Pixies song is good and Ebert's last two lines in his review good, but I'll never stop giving Fight Club poo poo for this lmao:quote:We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. 
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He’s supposed to be a fascist preying on the insecurities of failed men. I don’t think you’re supposed to find Brad Pitt’s insights correct within the context of the movie, although it was probably much harder to see in 1999.
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It's hard to believe these days for anyone under the age of 40 or so but there was a brief period in the prosperous Western world, let's say from 1991-2001, where people believed that most of society's major problems were pretty much "solved" and the struggle was for purpose in an increasingly automated, soulless world. Reality Bites, Office Space, Rent, Fight Club, even the Matrix to a certain extent were all the hallmarks of this particular Gen X end of history mindset in the 90s.
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