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Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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McGavin posted:

My work allows me to expense meals, but expressly prohibits me from expensing coffee when I go to visit clients. Ok, fine, I guess you're paying for me to have a sandwich too then idiots.

Regular drip coffee and the nicest sandwichs they have and give em to homeless people.

Make capitalism socialism again.

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Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Re: most stupid firing:
Pallet jack jousting.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Barudak, pack your poo poo we're going to Nagoya for a meeting at the F1 race tomorrow.

NFX
Jun 2, 2008

Fun Shoe

Barudak posted:

Barudak, pack your poo poo we're going to Nagoya for a meeting at the F1 race tomorrow.

You're lucky, last week's race was in Singapore

cynic
Jan 19, 2004



Serious_Cyclone posted:

Never, under any circumstances, work for an "unlimited PTO" company.

I'm in charge of approving leave at an unlimited PTO company and I will literally approve every single request, I see come in and if anyone is taking under 4-5 weeks in any year I get them to take more days. As long as people are performing well I don't give a poo poo how many days they have off.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
My coworker decided to, on his time off on a trip in a different city, drop in at one of our dealers and talk to them in person and see how things were going and if there was anything they could do, etc etc, usual sales stuff I don't know poo poo about.

That made him miss the bus to the event he was there for with his kids (school event with some parents along) so he took a cab and got poo poo for wanting to write it off as an expense. He's going near that same place again in a week or so and there's some stuff that would be nice if he could go there and clear it up in person.

But he told me since he got so much poo poo for that cab fare last time, he's not gonna drop in this time.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Randy Travesty posted:

Sales admin would book him meetings

If our sales team had this, they would literally be the happiest they’ve ever been and never complain again. I don’t understand how people can be so incredibly blinded to how easy they have it and throw it away, a sales role that doesn’t have to book their own appointments sounds like all the fun bits of sales with none of the poo poo.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




His Divine Shadow posted:

My coworker decided to, on his time off on a trip in a different city, drop in at one of our dealers and talk to them in person and see how things were going and if there was anything they could do, etc etc, usual sales stuff I don't know poo poo about.

That made him miss the bus to the event he was there for with his kids (school event with some parents along) so he took a cab and got poo poo for wanting to write it off as an expense. He's going near that same place again in a week or so and there's some stuff that would be nice if he could go there and clear it up in person.

But he told me since he got so much poo poo for that cab fare last time, he's not gonna drop in this time.

Good tbh, people shouldn’t be doing work poo poo in their free time because all it does is reinforce lovely notions.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Scientastic posted:

If our sales team had this, they would literally be the happiest they’ve ever been and never complain again. I don’t understand how people can be so incredibly blinded to how easy they have it and throw it away, a sales role that doesn’t have to book their own appointments sounds like all the fun bits of sales with none of the poo poo.

His base money was drat close to seven figures.

Seriously. He got over a year of that. And they were still willing to extend the guarantee if he just did the drat meetings. Hell, I loving booked him 50+ meetings personally with folks I knew, and he cancelled almost all of them. His territory is compact. If it was over 30 minutes to get to the area he was going to meetings in, he would cancel.

I make much much less than that and I do a shitload of work. I told them I'd take the field job if they couldn't get anyone. They already have people jockeying for it. It's wild.

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Isn’t that the very definition of “failson”. So entitled, he has no clue how good he had it. And probably will get another do nothing position elsewhere.

JeffLeonard
Apr 18, 2003

TV Violence

Barudak posted:

A coworker I had got fired for going into the buildings fire escape staircase and getting stoned. Not because he got stoned and bypassed fire safety to do it, but because he would get too high and need to be rescued and coworkers got tired of helping him.

Thanks for the :lol:

People getting too high, freaking out and telling on themselves is always good for a :lol:

I have a pretty good expense account story:

Our company had purchased a competitor and that company's owner was working for us through the transition. Basically, he was there to handhold customers and introduce them to our salespeople, etc. In the first month, he & I go to a meeting for a trade assocation that he had been very involved in for several years. I could only stay for one night, he stayed for two. When I'm there, we entertain some customers taking them out for dinner, cocktails, etc. All normal business stuff. I fly home the next morning and he stays.

When he gets back, he turns in an reimbursement request for the night I wasn't there: $3000. No receipts. I asked him "What the gently caress is this, Dave?" He said he took a bunch of dudes to a strip bar in a limo and bought booze, lapdances and who knows what else, all with cash. I told him to go gently caress himself and he didn't need to help with the transisiton any longer. He hosed himself out of a couple hundred thousand in consulting fees for the year for some sketchy handjobs in Baltimore.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Our networking guy who keeps insisting he only handles firewalls (and who loves telling everyone in earshot how smart and overworked he is) is currently insisting that a new wifi network has zero firewalls on it.

This wifi network was set up for the express use... of the executives.

God, I hope he's right...

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Orvin posted:

Isn’t that the very definition of “failson”. So entitled, he has no clue how good he had it. And probably will get another do nothing position elsewhere.

I kind of hope he does and that it's the same territory so I can just vacuum up the god damned wins.

frest
Sep 17, 2004

Well hell. I guess old Tumnus is just a loverman by trade.
I've seen a lot of firings for repeated lateness, pissing hot, sleeping on the job. Garden-variety making a pass at your subordinates, stealing, and overtime fuckiness.

Instead I'll share the worst almost-firing. An old manager interceded on the guy's behalf and he stuck around, but it was a close thing. This office has a secure environment and physical/IT security has only ever become more and more of a serious thing over time. When they first implemented the "No USB use ever no exceptions," it was not rolled out that explicitly, and there was a lot of confusion about it. I used to use a chrome portable executable (to use all my extensions and logins on a company device) and one day I plugged it in same as always only to have a LAN admin basically shoulder-check me away from my device and remove it and warn me never to do it again. So I said uh ok, and never had an issue since. But it was that level of SURPRISE! policy change.

However we do a lot of shift work and rotating 12 hours, and before the advent of 4G/5G and decent wireless service a lot of guys burned DVDs or portable drives full of media. While obviously you're not supposed to be watching breaking bad on shift, there was a lot of laxity towards the night shifts, especially towards the end of a major operating event when there wasn't a lot of action going on anymore. A guy plugs in his portable hard drive to copy over some mp3s (something he had been given permission to do) and the USB drive sets off their alerts but what's worse- this was the guy's personal stash of all media including porn. He did not watch any porn using company resources, did not access the porn at work, but the drive was connected with porn on it and that was apparently enough to go straight for a termination for a first-offense guy with 20+ years and a pension.

As I said, they interceded on his behalf and he took some training about it. I'm just trying to imagine explaining that one to your wife and kids.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
I remember a guy once got "fired" from a fully funded PhD course a few months in when it became apparent that he couldn't answer even basic questions about the subject and his undergrad university didn't know who he was.

Not really sure how he was expecting those years to go.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie

I have a lot I could say about IT and security and people doing things they shouldn't be on the job but instead I'll just say hot drat for this one

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

frest posted:

I've seen a lot of firings for repeated lateness, pissing hot, sleeping on the job.
Working from home for over ten years, I've always felt that there's certain degree of :decorum: about what one should share. You're at home, so surely it should not be surprising that you can shift time around to suit your needs. It could be in terms of fairly working your own schedule (e.g.,"I took an hour off to run an errand, worked extra tonight") or downright anti-employer (e.g.,"I took that hour off and I don't loving care"). There's also the garden variety excuses you can provide that almost nobody will ever be upset about, like "I'm not feeling well, going to take the morning off" .

But the one that gets me are people who when called out for being unavailable, instead of making up a lie, actually say, "Oh, I was taking a nap."

Of all of the things to say, why would you ever admit to that? How can "took a late/long lunch break" not be their automatic go-to?

frest
Sep 17, 2004

Well hell. I guess old Tumnus is just a loverman by trade.

Cheesus posted:

Of all of the things to say, why would you ever admit to that? How can "took a late/long lunch break" not be their automatic go-to?

Ha that sounds almost quaint. This dude was caught sprawled out sleeping while charging overtime (and being top 10% of all OT earners in the company) by a VP who was just visiting a field office to boost morale and chat up the front line guys. He was disappeared instantly, and people just pretended they never knew him.

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

So we're moving offices. (They made me move furniture for an hour and a half after I was promised I'd be allowed to leave early, in spite of a bad back and two bad knees, but whatever that's life. I'll loop around to that later once we have a full picture of how hosed this move is.) A month or so ago, I ran an tabletop RPG one-shot and was brainstorming "unintentionally dystopic corporate imagery", and ended up putting a mural of a fake window with a big nature scene behind it in the breakroom, that sort of "this is the beauty you aren't allowed to have as long as you're working" bullshit corporate would think would improve morale. Purely off the top of my head as an idea, never been in an office that actually did it before.

I get to our new break room and...


They have multiple of these, in multiple rooms. I read my own future.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie

Cheesus posted:

Working from home for over ten years, I've always felt that there's certain degree of :decorum: about what one should share.

I never tell anyone what I'm up to. I pray no one gives me poo poo for it because those same people that would leave me on read for weeks on end. Heavens forbid I stepped out for lunch a bit earlier than 'designated eating time'.

Funny enough our company having WFH optional prompted people to give feedback like 'have a feeling people don't work" which is really funny because hunting down a lot of people took more time than I would've liked in person, so I sure as gently caress didn't get the opinion they were working even at the office either.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Heh, a couple of offices in my corp HQ have those, pretty sure it was HR people who put them up but those rooms are now occupied by finance.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Cheesus posted:

Working from home for over ten years, I've always felt that there's certain degree of :decorum: about what one should share. You're at home, so surely it should not be surprising that you can shift time around to suit your needs. It could be in terms of fairly working your own schedule (e.g.,"I took an hour off to run an errand, worked extra tonight") or downright anti-employer (e.g.,"I took that hour off and I don't loving care"). There's also the garden variety excuses you can provide that almost nobody will ever be upset about, like "I'm not feeling well, going to take the morning off" .

But the one that gets me are people who when called out for being unavailable, instead of making up a lie, actually say, "Oh, I was taking a nap."

Of all of the things to say, why would you ever admit to that? How can "took a late/long lunch break" not be their automatic go-to?

100%. Would add there’s the big danger of forever being known as the nap guy when bored managers discuss that person at review time.

Peak example of someone oversharing was a coworker who had been out for a week with a back injury he said occurred on the job, using paid time & medical benefits. When he got back we were chatting about Xbox & he casually decided to mention he had actually been hurt in a bar fight & sent in a false claim so the company would pay for it. I of course didn’t tell anyone but dunno who else he barely knew he chose to inform, but I guess it wasn’t too many as he was still there when I shopped years later.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy


:wtc: how the gently caress does one even break a toilet seat

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
oh the stories that seat could tell

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

The Black Stones posted:

I know working sucks, but I’m always baffled at the people who don’t even want to do the basic thing they were hired to do. I’m all for saying “piss off” when someone asks you to go above and beyond, but the “No, I am going to meltdown at doing the thing I am being paid to do” is the oddest thing.

I used to do overnight security at a mall. I got told when I started “don’t fall asleep. Write a report when something happens or you find an unlocked door. If something big happens. Call management.” The amount of people I heard that got fired when I left because they could no do these things was more than one and I was amazed (I was friends with someone who worked there for quite a while after I left)

That also triggered a memory for me. Guy I worked with doing security got fired for having sex on the job. Did they catch him at night on video? No my friends. He tried to do this (again, at a mall) during the day in a place that led to roof access. The management was showing someone around and tried to show them the roof and found the access door locked. They didn’t catch him in the act, but he was still putting on clothes and there was a woman with him who was absolutely not supposed to be there. Wasn’t hard to put 2 and 2 together. What a way to go.

First he came, then he left

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Cthulu Carl posted:

Our networking guy who keeps insisting he only handles firewalls (and who loves telling everyone in earshot how smart and overworked he is) is currently insisting that a new wifi network has zero firewalls on it.

This wifi network was set up for the express use... of the executives.

God, I hope he's right...

Sounds like he wants to establish early that he's not touching this thing with a 10 foot pole, good on him.

frest posted:

"No USB use ever no exceptions,"

I worked at a bank that tried to implement a rule like that. I was a mobile developer, so I asked our director how I was supposed to do my job. As a great personal favour to my team, they offered permission to use USB devices with approval from IT every time we plugged anything in. Miraculously, I was able to convince the bigwigs that waiting on hold for 45 minutes multiple times per day to plug in a different phone was not an effective use of my time or their budget.

Ensign Expendable fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Sep 21, 2023

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

mobby_6kl posted:



:wtc: how the gently caress does one even break a toilet seat

A hefty boi probably leaned to that side and cracked it mid-wipe.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Reoxygenation posted:

I never tell anyone what I'm up to. I pray no one gives me poo poo for it because those same people that would leave me on read for weeks on end. Heavens forbid I stepped out for lunch a bit earlier than 'designated eating time'.

Funny enough our company having WFH optional prompted people to give feedback like 'have a feeling people don't work" which is really funny because hunting down a lot of people took more time than I would've liked in person, so I sure as gently caress didn't get the opinion they were working even at the office either.

At least for my team, we're all WFH and our manager's official position is that so long as you don't give him a reason to care, he doesn't, when it comes to what you're doing at any given moment.

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

I'm loving ecstatic that accounts payable may reject my attempt at fiscal responsibility and question my stewardship of the multi-million dollar fund entrusted to me because a loving lump sum gives them loving sticker shock.

You derps rubber-stamping a series of invoices in the hundreds but questioning a singular invoice in the thousands with a discount attached to it makes me question y'all's personal budgeting skills.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie

Dameius posted:

At least for my team, we're all WFH and our manager's official position is that so long as you don't give him a reason to care, he doesn't, when it comes to what you're doing at any given moment.

World needs more managers like that. Bless em

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

I brought my Drake posted:

I'm loving ecstatic that accounts payable may reject my attempt at fiscal responsibility and question my stewardship of the multi-million dollar fund entrusted to me because a loving lump sum gives them loving sticker shock.

You derps rubber-stamping a series of invoices in the hundreds but questioning a singular invoice in the thousands with a discount attached to it makes me question y'all's personal budgeting skills.

Company being penny wise!? You'll see this all the time in IT where the company will be happy to burn twice as much money to do something simply because it comes out of a different budget bucket instead of spending objectively less money but if you touch this other bucket that means it is bad.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Nobody said "crank it raw"?

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

goatface posted:

Nobody said "crank it raw"?

They aren't waiting for a rainy day to indulge.

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

Cthulu Carl posted:

Our networking guy who keeps insisting he only handles firewalls (and who loves telling everyone in earshot how smart and overworked he is) is currently insisting that a new wifi network has zero firewalls on it.

This wifi network was set up for the express use... of the executives.

God, I hope he's right...

DDoS them.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

mobby_6kl posted:



:wtc: how the gently caress does one even break a toilet seat

I've done that while wearing a plaster cast that went from my ankle to just below the hip, after dislocating a kneecap.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Cheesus posted:

Working from home for over ten years, I've always felt that there's certain degree of :decorum: about what one should share. You're at home, so surely it should not be surprising that you can shift time around to suit your needs. It could be in terms of fairly working your own schedule (e.g.,"I took an hour off to run an errand, worked extra tonight") or downright anti-employer (e.g.,"I took that hour off and I don't loving care"). There's also the garden variety excuses you can provide that almost nobody will ever be upset about, like "I'm not feeling well, going to take the morning off" .

But the one that gets me are people who when called out for being unavailable, instead of making up a lie, actually say, "Oh, I was taking a nap."

Of all of the things to say, why would you ever admit to that? How can "took a late/long lunch break" not be their automatic go-to?
I am completely unproductive in full on overhead training mode for other Dumb poo poo Your Work Does reasons involving 2+ products I could have been working on for the last month not being the strategic choice. And am doing a lot of admin on the side for my local boss. Like zero reason why I can't pick up a phone and say yessir done let alone most readings of policy mean I should be at the office while I'm not productive anyway.

I was in the yard putting away a fish tank I disassembled over the weekend around lunch time earlier in the week and got a call from my boss asking how a certain screen worked or something simple but needing to be logged into the intranet. I filled space saying I needed a couple minutes to log in after lunch and my boss straight up back pedaled and was like "oh I can call back later I don't want to interrupt lunch."

You get 1 lunch per day per person and you don't even need to use them when you take lunch if no one bothers you during your real lunch :thunk:

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
I’m spending an inordinate amount of time this evening shuffling night shift machine operators through a training regimen handed down from corporate.

They are all learning this evening the finer points of:

How to behave a trade show
What’s insider trading and what ain’t
What to do when asked for a bribe
What to do when offered a bribe
What gifts you can or cannot accept from vendors
What gifts you can or cannot offer politicians


Sigh.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

I present to you an exam question from the Month 5, Week 3 exam in Google Career Certificates' Digital Marketing and E-Commerce certification



(the selected answer isn't the right answer I just lol'd at the wording because goddamnit it that's factually correct, they do this poo poo all the time)

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Sep 21, 2023

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Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


tactlessbastard posted:

I’m spending an inordinate amount of time this evening shuffling night shift machine operators through a training regimen handed down from corporate.

They are all learning this evening the finer points of:

How to behave a trade show
What’s insider trading and what ain’t
What to do when asked for a bribe
What to do when offered a bribe
What gifts you can or cannot accept from vendors
What gifts you can or cannot offer politicians


Sigh.
IIRC they do this so that when the IRS goes after somebody higher-ranked, the company can say, "We give ethics training to every employee every year, there's no way they didn't know!"

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