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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX7rdMrUUHo BYZANTINES! lets loving go!
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skooma512 posted:
might i interest you in workers and resources
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Paradox have announced their new Civilization-style game by a studio called C Prompt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPy5nn7I8IA seems like the main selling point is that advancement is based on Ages and you can advance into variant alt-history ages based on fulfilling prerequisites. which is kind of neat but also I'm very tired of Civ and all Civ type games
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Colonization was the better Sid Meier game because it was more materialist and slightly less lib-brained in spite of its subject matter. And yet nobody makes a Colonization 2. Don't even talk to me about the "remake".
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John Charity Spring posted:Paradox have announced their new Civilization-style game by a studio called C Prompt oh hell yes theyre adding spreadsheets to civ
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Did Civ not already have spreadsheets? Civ VI already had a ton of poo poo going on in it that was kind of too much and tedious.
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Orange Devil posted:Colonization was the better Sid Meier game because it was more materialist and slightly less lib-brained in spite of its subject matter. it was kinda funny how colonization wanted to be inoffensive so they just removed the concept of slavery entirely from the game and all your plantations are worked by white dudes and the triangle trade is just two way honestly I hope the paradox civ takes off since humankind seemed to have flopped and firaxis has been getting really sloppy with civ 6 without any competition
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There are also scenarios for TAOW and wars around the world about counterinsurgencies at the end of empire. John Tiller’s Squad level titles also include Algeria and Indochina iirc
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Orange Devil posted:Tropico 2 might be the worst sequel in PC gaming history. I still remember how I felt after playing it for about an hour or two. It wasn't good. MOO3?
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Didnt play that so couldnt tell you.
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PerniciousKnid posted:MOO3? The theme of this page is Biggest Strategy Game Flops of 2003 
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Master of Orion 3 ambitiously reached for the stars and failed (miserably) due to not having the right tools for it. People trying to reach for those same stars later could look at it and be able to avoid a repeat. It's not really the same kind of failure as some others.
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my dad posted:Master of Orion 3 ambitiously reached for the stars and failed (miserably) due to not having the right tools for it. People trying to reach for those same stars later could look at it and be able to avoid a repeat. It's not really the same kind of failure as some others. Made by the guy who coined the term 4X, but sadly it was too 4X.
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Let none speak more of the fools who claim to have revealed the false Fifth X
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20 years ago, I got a game called Republic: The Revolution for my birthday. I was a nerd, sue me. The previews made it seem like a politics simulation where you lead a party to power in this post-Soviet republic. It has a nice looking 3D engine that still looks pretty good even today. The 3D engine was however, mostly just for vibes and barely had any gameplay attached. The gameplay was mostly allocating actions in a board game-esque interface and a card game that was easy to cheese when you needed to persuade someone. The populace speak a Simlish version of Russian. I heard the voice clips so many times I can probably imitate them from memory to this day. The vestigial 3D engine would later go on to power Evil Genius, and you can see they reused the Mi-8 model in that game which still has the symbol of Novistrana on it.  You manage points that are "ideology": Force, Wealth, and Influence, which you spend doing actions to take territory, depicted as pie charts of public opinion. No political ideology is depicted, beyond some factions having hammer and sickle imagery as their icon. Your party does not have and does not make any demands other than the removal of the current President (  ) and the installation of you instead. When you beat the game, you become the President and that's it. Power is the end, not the means to an end, and it is never asked what you would like to do with it. The current guy mostly uses his power to eliminate rivals, the usual.This game was quite instructive in how much bullshit previews are, and I learned my lesson lol. The box even has E3 awards, from its previews. Verdict: Not socialist, at least not in any way other than as an aesthetic. While looking for screenshots, I see someone here already did a Let's Play. https://lparchive.org/Republic-The-Revolution/
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Orange Devil posted:Tropico 2 might be the worst sequel in PC gaming history. I still remember how I felt after playing it for about an hour or two. It wasn't good. Sword of the Stars 2
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skooma512 posted:20 years ago, I got a game called Republic: The Revolution for my birthday. I was a nerd, sue me. I remember having this game and not understanding it in the slightest
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John Charity Spring posted:Paradox have announced their new Civilization-style game by a studio called C Prompt so essentially stellaris civtypes but for eras of human development? dope. i hope it doesn't have stellaris' economy/pop system
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skooma512 posted:20 years ago, I got a game called Republic: The Revolution for my birthday. I was a nerd, sue me. God young me was so excited for this and so utterly disappointed with the execution
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Endman posted:I remember having this game and not understanding it in the slightest For whatever reason I remember that being a thing among gaming boards and communities. People, myself including, winding up with used copies that may or may not have a manual and just being confused by the whole thing. Partly because it is a whole "political" game that boils down to playing cards and points in rock-paper-scissor games that aren't really connected to one another. Huge bummer since the concept is great but they just do nothing with it.
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When Republic was first announced in the mid 90s - it was in development for a long time! - the things it promised was downright shocking. Not only were you supposed to be able to run the whole country down to every citizen, you could also zoom in to them in full 3D. this was insanity in 1996, but by the time the game came out, it wasn’t that big of a deal, plus the gameplay, as described above, was lackluster.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/antony1959/status/1705220310696419648?t=ZKHswz-osp_R1Cjkgfb79w&s=19 Go to staff college and then do a visiting assignment in Canada bing bong so simple
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Frosted Flake posted:Go to staff college and then do a visiting assignment in Canada I know it's a thing that the wargaming community is full of "political people", but going to the source is too much to ask. gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/antony1959/status/1705220310696419648?t=ZKHswz-osp_R1Cjkgfb79w&s=19 When I get old I wanna be the cool grandpa with the huge desk to play wargames. Edit: Lol that 40K kill team box.
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I had fun with it for about 35 hours then stopped playing. The core concept of switching cultures between ages is definitely not perfect.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:On the topic of civ games, what was the final verdict on Humankind? probably the best combat in a civ clone but oftentimes it's main gimmick was annoying.
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Stairmaster posted:I had fun with it for about 35 hours then stopped playing. The core concept of switching cultures between ages is definitely not perfect. I feel like this is my experience with most civ games, the only one I really religiously played was 4 because of the modding community.
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https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/caveman-2-cosmos.288570/
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Frosted Flake posted:Go to staff college and then do a visiting assignment in Canada Yeah but it'll be one Soviet player and a dozen German
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KomradeX posted:Yeah but it'll be one Soviet player and a dozen German This is a bit of a joke in the staff college, and I've heard among the grog wargaming community as well, but the Soviet players usually won back in the day. There was a nice long form article on playing the Soviets on a war gamers blog some years ago, I can't remember the title. e: and at the American Fort Irwin NTC, the Soviets nearly always won as well, iirc.
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Frosted Flake posted:This is a bit of a joke in the staff college, and I've heard among the grog wargaming community as well, but the Soviet players usually won back in the day. I think I remember that article, got posted here, or maybe one of the Ukraine threads, where the guy used actual Soviet doctrine and just always rolled the US/NATO player
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There were two articles, the original and the response to it, which points out, with good arguments, that the original misrepresents the Soviet doctrine in some ways, including playing up the 'brute force' aspects of it. I know I have them both somewhere on my computer as PDFs, but it's in a hive of ancient folders I don't dare disturb. I do however have to note that I have a comparable experience when playing Dominions, which is a stupidly complicated fantasy wargame with A LOT of poo poo to manage, and a delayed response time which means it's difficult to adjust plans on the move if you didn't already previously prepare some means of doing so. I'm not really up for a long writeup right now (there's a lot of stuff I've noticed over the years that I think would be pretty cool to talk about), but basically - understanding that you, yourself, are a resource and a game piece (even if you're not on the board), understanding that your opponent is also an enemy resource and game piece, and making plans that account for your ability to implement them, goes a long way. I have defeated people who are far better players of the video game Dominions 5 than I'll ever be (my total dominions 5 game count is 11 or 12 depending on how you count, and there are people who have played hundreds if not thousands of games e: ok, maybe not thousands unless we count dominions 3 and 4 games) by accounting for my flaws, not trying for "skilled" plays that i can't reliably pull off, and instead going with a robust plan that focuses on achiveving my goals without much in the way of subtlety but allows me to pounce on enemy mistakes once they make them. I've gotten a reputation for weird, tricky, 2 steps ahead plans mostly because of how spectaculalry things go wrong when they go wrong for the enemy. I don't need to predict where you are going to make a mistake if I have a reserve that can reach any place you could have made one. e2: ugh, shortening the length of what I was trying to say but keeping the parts where i emphasize that i'm not saying this from a position of theorycrafter but as someone who has succesfully leveraged this to win games made this sound really high handed boasty. Apologies, it wasn't intended to sound like that, just take it as a "this actually works, in practice" my dad has issued a correction as of 19:57 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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I love reading dominions posts, I've only played 2-3 games of dom4 I think but it's fun tooling around in single player against incompetent AI. And I understand what you are saying. The human player is definitely a resource. Your time and energy can be consumed, or you may not have 2 hours that day to pay perfect attention to every detail. Accounting for that reality is sound strategy. The instinct of computer gamers is usually to go for perfect play it seems. A months long game of once-per-day turns sure is something. I can imagine games of chess by mail now.
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palindrome posted:I love reading dominions posts, I've only played 2-3 games of dom4 I think but it's fun tooling around in single player against incompetent AI. I’ve only played single player and there are so many spells that are clearly just to gently caress with and play mind games with human players like an ai isn’t going to care that a random mage every turn dies but that would be so irritating to happen to you
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KomradeX posted:I think I remember that article, got posted here, or maybe one of the Ukraine threads, where the guy used actual Soviet doctrine and just always rolled the US/NATO player If we're remembering the same article, I think my favorite part of it was that Soviet doctrine emphasized really simple plans. So the NATO side would be laying out really intricate clockwork of how they're going to advance, when air support will strike, when artillery barrages will start/end, phase lines, the works. And the Soviet team would just say "We're all gonna go forward at once, whichever axis has success will be reinforced" and be done with their planning in like thirty minutes. It was apparently extremely successful at unnerving the NATO players.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:On the topic of civ games, what was the final verdict on Humankind? it's Endless Legend again but with a Whig History theme instead of fantasy. if that appeals then you'll have some fun with it. I don't think it's very good
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