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Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Sundae posted:

Speaking from experience, this is how you get a 7AM-5PM workday. :v:

In practice it hasn’t worked out that way. It helps to be west coast based with most stakeholders to the east. Sometimes I have a late meeting and that sucks, but it’s rare.

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Awkward Davies posted:

In practice it hasn’t worked out that way. It helps to be west coast based with most stakeholders to the east. Sometimes I have a late meeting and that sucks, but it’s rare.

This is how I manage it. I'm on the west coast and hq is in cst, so I just work cst hours.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Awkward Davies posted:

In practice it hasn’t worked out that way. It helps to be west coast based with most stakeholders to the east. Sometimes I have a late meeting and that sucks, but it’s rare.

What's happened to me is that I'm west-coast with stakeholders in Basel, SF and Shanghai. My meeting times are hilarious some days, but my management at least understands that and doesn't throw a fit when I text them "had meetings from 1AM-4AM, not coming in today."

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Re: the recent thread bullet dodge, I've often wondered about the thought process behind the "just one quick (disruptive) question" person right as a fraught meeting is drawing to a close after unexpectedly righting itself.

Obviously I can't ask such people what the gently caress is up in meetings, but I can here.

So, uh?

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer
A lot of people thrive on having the last word.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Atopian posted:

Re: the recent thread bullet dodge, I've often wondered about the thought process behind the "just one quick (disruptive) question" person right as a fraught meeting is drawing to a close after unexpectedly righting itself.

Obviously I can't ask such people what the gently caress is up in meetings, but I can here.

So, uh?

Personally I consider myself a teacher

Honey Im Homme
Sep 3, 2009

Solid 80% of my meetings I don't say anything but "thanks, bye"

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

dpkg chopra posted:

A lot of people thrive on having the last word.

and/or just plain ol' stirring poo poo.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

Atopian posted:

Re: the recent thread bullet dodge, I've often wondered about the thought process behind the "just one quick (disruptive) question" person right as a fraught meeting is drawing to a close after unexpectedly righting itself.

Obviously I can't ask such people what the gently caress is up in meetings, but I can here.

So, uh?

It's the adult equivalent of reminding the teacher she forgot to assign us homework.

Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees
gently caress automation and their complete lack of any process to control their method revisions. They discovered a vendor software bug today (copy pasting method steps loses any variables in the step) for a change that went out in June under a change control. When asked how they would change their release process to ensure this doesn't happen again, they didn't have an answer and stammered something about code diff reviews. I have to get someone high up to force them to actually build a process externally becasuse they're incapable of doing so internally. This is the same dept whose director had the zoom porn game incident. I should not be surprised but I am.

Spikes32 fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Sep 22, 2023

secular woods sex
Aug 1, 2000
I dispense wisdom by the gallon.
Part of my job is researching regulations for contractors licenses.

Contractors licenses are not like drivers licenses. Just because I have my HVAC license in State A doesn’t mean I can move to State B and start working. Generally I would have to apply for State B’s HVAC license, pass their exam, follow any rules, ect.

Some states have reciprocal license agreements. All this reciprocity means is that I can skip the exam. I still have to pay licensure fees and get a State B license, but I can show my State A license as a way to skip the exam . . . if State B will accept State A’s license.

Today I spent three hours researching whether or not two states had a reciprocal licensing agreement. A trusted third party source says yes. Primary Source from State A says no. Primary Source 1 from State B says no, they have reciprocity with 3 other states. Primary Source 2 from State B says they have no reciprocity at all. Primary Source 3 says reciprocity is on hold for two states, but in effect for a third.

I called all the regulatory bodies involved. State A had me on hold for more than an hour and never picked up. State B forces you to accept a call back from an agent and it hangs up on you if you try and stay on hold.

Can’t wait to do it again tomorrow.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Democratic Pirate posted:

Oooh. Productivity aka payroll auditors.

Nice one. Right now I'm thinking "pathway" or "paradigm"

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Awkward Davies posted:

Waking up late is for suckers. My first meeting is at 7am. I can safely be done with work between 2 and 3pm and then I do whatever.

Imagine still working at 5pm, Christ.

Everyone in the US is insane with the mornings, my entire department except for like two of us being out there is perfect for me because my mornings are quiet, they all appear at 1pm and I work up until 6 (sometimes a bit longer if I want to score some points)

I've seen people doing stuff at 5am and why would you do that to yourself.

e: I should note that I'd be working until 6 anyway as that's the standard here. Unless I go to the pub.

Powerful Two-Hander fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Sep 22, 2023

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Atopian posted:

Re: the recent thread bullet dodge, I've often wondered about the thought process behind the "just one quick (disruptive) question" person right as a fraught meeting is drawing to a close after unexpectedly righting itself.

Obviously I can't ask such people what the gently caress is up in meetings, but I can here.

So, uh?

You need to up your game here: stealth into the meeting and right at the end ask a question that upends the entire thing.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

You need to up your game here: stealth into the meeting and right at the end ask a question that upends the entire thing.

Only if I can expense the subsequent smokebomb.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Atopian posted:

Re: the recent thread bullet dodge, I've often wondered about the thought process behind the "just one quick (disruptive) question" person right as a fraught meeting is drawing to a close after unexpectedly righting itself.
It's either

Renegret posted:

It's the adult equivalent of reminding the teacher she forgot to assign us homework.

or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHCdKb5UWc&t=56s

and i've 100% done that when some assholes are threatening to waste engineering time I need/use on useless bullshit I can run interference against.

evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Sep 22, 2023

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Monday: US west coast.
Tuesday evening and all of Wednesday: fly to Asia
Thursday AM: arrive in Asia 6am, calls until 12.30am Friday.
Friday: near-death state

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


From a friend:

quote:

I'm sitting on a meeting set up ages ago waiting for the host to join and I just realised she died in the interim, nobody is saying anything.

Very rude for the surviving family members to not cancel the appointments imo.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

From a friend:

Very rude for the surviving family members to not cancel the appointments imo.

dire

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS
I just got finished with a two day team conference thing and because I booked a later train so I wasn't in a rush I had time to help with the cleanup at the end. This turned into a bit of a debrief on the event in which multiple people stated it was good that a lot of people got up and presented but there were still a few people that had not really wanted to and we needed to work on that. I found myself explaining to a group of adults that there were a bunch of people in our finance/accounting function that were employed for their ability to sit in a corner and do maths and follow processes to the letter that, you know, might be on the "please leave me alone to do my job" side of things and maybe we shouldn't focus on making those people stand up and present to fifty people if they didn't want to? Maybe?

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

From a friend:

Very rude for the surviving family members to not cancel the appointments imo.

Nobody wants to work anymore smh

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

Fil5000 posted:

I just got finished with a two day team conference thing and because I booked a later train so I wasn't in a rush I had time to help with the cleanup at the end. This turned into a bit of a debrief on the event in which multiple people stated it was good that a lot of people got up and presented but there were still a few people that had not really wanted to and we needed to work on that. I found myself explaining to a group of adults that there were a bunch of people in our finance/accounting function that were employed for their ability to sit in a corner and do maths and follow processes to the letter that, you know, might be on the "please leave me alone to do my job" side of things and maybe we shouldn't focus on making those people stand up and present to fifty people if they didn't want to? Maybe?

But if we don't judge every single Fin/Atg new-hire on whether or not they are - someday, maybe - CFO material, why would we want them touching our numbers anyway!??!??

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
gently caress introverts, they are defective people and should be publicly shamed for it. -every executive

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
If you’re not climbing the ladder you’re taking up a spot for someone who will - an MBA stuck in the 1950s


I’m late to time zone chat but have none of you experience the glory that is Newfoundland?

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
Corporate Megathread: The meeting host has died. You are now the host.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

I ZOOM! I DIE! I ZOOM AGAIN!

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Live by the weekly meeting, die by the meeting invite

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

FrozenVent posted:

If you’re not climbing the ladder you’re taking up a spot for someone who will - an MBA stuck in the 1950s

Taylorism and up or out is a hell of a drug.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Discendo Vox posted:

Corporate Megathread: The meeting host has died. You are now the host.

Tomfoolery
Oct 8, 2004

Discendo Vox posted:

Corporate Megathread: The meeting host has died. You are now the host.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Discendo Vox posted:

Corporate Megathread: The meeting host has died. You are now the host.

The host is dead

Long live the host

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Discendo Vox posted:

Corporate Megathread: The meeting host has died. You are now the host.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

From a friend:

Very rude for the surviving family members to not cancel the appointments imo.

Insta-seance!

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



priznat posted:

Insta-seance!

That would easily be the most interesting meeting on my calendar.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
Hey team, just a reminder to mute your mics before dying so that your decomposing remains don't interrupt the speaker.

Deadite
Aug 30, 2003

A fat guy, a watermelon, and a stack of magazines?
Family.

priznat posted:

Insta-seance!

Microsoft teams new ouija board plugin

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Discendo Vox posted:

Corporate Megathread: The meeting host has died. You are now the host.

:mods:

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Discendo Vox posted:

Corporate Megathread: The meeting host has died. You are now the host.

:leavemtg:

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Deadite posted:

Microsoft teams new ouija board plugin

That's exactly what I said to him.

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Tnuctip
Sep 25, 2017

priznat posted:

Insta-seance!

How would you bill ghosts though, to the estate? If I become a ghost any pro boo-no work is gonna be of my choosing

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