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Midjack posted:Different role with better upward mobility opportunities, same pay. Yup. It was a great decision for me too because I got promoted at the new place within 8 months whereas I’d been strung along for 2-3 years at the last one.
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What are the odds of a Friday 3pm EST mandatory online meeting for a few hundred people being bad news?
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wolfs posted:What are the odds of a Friday 3pm EST mandatory online meeting for a few hundred people being bad news? If it's bad news this probably wouldn't have been your first warning that it was happening.
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Star Man posted:IRS will be using money from its Just got the announcement this morning that they can't actually use that money in case of a shutdown. The rumor mill says that people with short statute cases will keep working, no idea how short though.
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I apparently missed that announcement, but I thought that would be the case. It seemed odd to me that the IRA money could be used outside of the normal appropriations process.
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Midjack posted:If it's bad news this probably wouldn't have been your first warning that it was happening. I vaguely suspect it’s something about FEMA funding and the possibility of a government shutdown.
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LyonsLions posted:Just got the announcement this morning that they can't actually use that money in case of a shutdown. lol so did I
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Feeling more likely now. Lots of talk of chaos
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Sep 22, 2023 06:26
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This is the first time since 2013 that specifics have seeped down to my level so I'm guessing we get more than a just for the weekend shutdown this time.
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I have two weeks of annual leave in October. If a shutdown were to overlap with my leave, is the annual leave spent?
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What will happen is you'll be put on furlough without pay unless you're mission critical (like me). If you're mission critical, you can't take leave. So for the length of shutdown, you won't get paid until the budget is passed. Then they'll authorize backpay, so you just got free leave. Unless you're me... There's weird rules about taking leave while on furlough. https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/furlough-guidance/#url=Shutdown-Furlough
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I’m taking a trip next weekend so I have annual leave scheduled for Friday/Monday/Tuesday. Assuming the shutdown starts on Sunday, I guess I won’t actually use leave for Monday/Tuesday? That the middle of the pay period so it’s not like we’ll be able to submit timesheets anyway.
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Josh Lyman posted:I’m taking a trip next weekend so I have annual leave scheduled for Friday/Monday/Tuesday. Assuming the shutdown starts on Sunday, I guess I won’t actually use leave for Monday/Tuesday? That the middle of the pay period so it’s not like we’ll be able to submit timesheets anyway. Yes - but recommend communicating with your leadership for local policies in the event of a shutdown, if they haven’t pushed these out already. For us, we will probably have to sign a furlough letter physically, in person. We always ask about doing it electronically but always get told no. This makes things complicated when people aren’t local.
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Midjack posted:If it's bad news this probably wouldn't have been your first warning that it was happening. You must work for a functional agency. Mine won't give us any shutdown guidance until Oct 1 when the phone tree fires up to tell us we'll be expected to show up to the office for an orderly shutdown the following day.
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Endless Mike posted:You must work for a functional agency. Mine won't give us any shutdown guidance until Oct 1 when the phone tree fires up to tell us we'll be expected to show up to the office for an orderly shutdown the following day. An ounce of planning is worth 5 pounds of cure. BUT: An ounce of planning will get wasted if there's no shutdown, and if there IS a shutdown, it's not like you were going to be busy during the time that you spend 5 pounds of cure. So don't worry about it!
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Devor posted:An ounce of planning is worth 5 pounds of cure. BUT: Oh I don't really care tbh my office is a 10 minute bike ride away so it's barely an inconvenience to take care of it, just noting that my agency is consistently under-prepared for these things.
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Endless Mike posted:Oh I don't really care tbh my office is a 10 minute bike ride away so it's barely an inconvenience to take care of it, just noting that my agency is consistently under-prepared for these things. Oh yeah no I'm just mocking the mindset that allows this stuff to happen They don't care about wasting your time if you're off the clock anyway
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My first shutdown, it took three or four days to figure out the paperwork to shut down. We were all sitting around not allowed to work on any projects while management sorted everything out. About a fifth of our office was officially essential positions, so not allowed to take leave or get paid but had to work. About a fifth were on non-appropriated funds so work as normal. The rest were on appropriated funds and told to go home. It took most of the first day to pull up all of the position descriptions and sort out who was on what positions since they had no relation to current projects. Then they had to figure out what to do with the people on 50% appropriated, 50% non-appropriated positions. Not sure how they figured that out. While that was going on, I was a COR (contracting office representative) tasked with overseeing contractors in the building. It was required for one of us to be in the building with the contractors who had been prepayed to be there but we were mostly non-appropriated funds. So we had to sort out who had previously been trained as a COR but were on compatible non-appropriated funds to transfer official responsibility over the contractors. Then we had to notify the contractors in writing who their new COR was. As I was walking out the door on day two with all of that sorted out, my supervisor was working TDY orders to drive from Oklahoma to Texas to have the employees there, who had no on-site supervisor, physically sign furlough paperwork. It was really incredibly stupid.
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We have like 6 people who have been deemed essential in HQ and they're allowed to work on like one program that is not an ongoing thing, so I imagine a lot of their time will be sitting around twiddling thumbs. I think most or all of our field people are essential.
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Endless Mike posted:You must work for a functional agency. Mine won't give us any shutdown guidance until Oct 1 when the phone tree fires up to tell us we'll be expected to show up to the office for an orderly shutdown the following day. Same for us, but stuff always leaks out around the edges. My supervisor and higher are coming in but I get the funlough subject to 2-hour recall in case of emergency.
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To help people reading this subforum, are there any (nationwide) businesses providing special deals or benefits to furloughed feds if there's a shutdown? Or other things people should know?
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Ghost Cactus posted:Has anyone moved laterally/to the same step and grade before? If you have, why did you? I moved from USCIS's Service Center division to its Field Offices division because I could get to a duty station near my family. Then 6 months later I transferred back to my old Service Center because I hated the Field Office. Also, I am once again super glad that USCIS is fee-driven, and I feel for those of you that aren't. I hate to lose my OT, but that was going to happen at the fiscal year anyway.
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pmchem posted:To help people reading this subforum, are there any (nationwide) businesses providing special deals or benefits to furloughed feds if there's a shutdown? Or other things people should know? USAA and PenFed usually offer to loan you whatever your direct deposit is for the duration with the understanding they'll be taking it as soon as the return check comes through. Needless to say, if you're not already a member, this won't help you now.
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I've got my fingerprinting scheduled for next week. Happy pre employment onboarding stuff still going forward
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DC bars also did drink specials in previous shutdowns.
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Websites like GovExec, Federal News Network, and WTOP will probably have info about support for feds during a shutdown, although I imagine it might be DC-centric.
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Shut this bitch down! I could use a vacation.
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pmchem posted:To help people reading this subforum, are there any (nationwide) businesses providing special deals or benefits to furloughed feds if there's a shutdown? Or other things people should know? My agency's (LOC) credit union is offering interest-free loans to members, which I've made aware to some of my newer-to-the-workforce colleagues who might be strapped for cash if this thing runs particularly long. Might be worth seeing if something like that is available in your agency's case.
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My agency is 99.99% non essential and I'm loving it Edit lmao it turns out that I was only slightly exaggerating  https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2023/09/see-who-would-get-furloughed-shutdown-year/390517/ Thesaurus fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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I've got a work trip planned for the first week in October, including non-refundable plane tickets (thanks Concur!). EPA still isn't really telling us if we would be off immediately in October. There's even an open question about if some IRA-related work would still go on.
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Thesaurus posted:My agency is 99.99% non essential and I'm loving it Lol of course Treasury is “what, every single one of us is essential! Fine, fine, we can put the wellness yoga teacher on furlough.”
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Also for peeps getting furloughed or essential, can look at local/state assistance like food stamps, unemployment etc. During the last one we had peeps (in IL) get unemployment and food stamps while on furlough and having to work without pay. They also only had to pay back the food stamp money which was interesting.
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Thesaurus posted:My agency is 99.99% non essential and I'm loving it Jean-Paul Shartre posted:Lol of course Treasury is “what, every single one of us is essential! Fine, fine, we can put the wellness yoga teacher on furlough.” I think that's based on the earlier understanding that the IRS could use its recent funds to weather the shutdown. They have now changed that tune, I think: https://federalnewsnetwork.com/gove...ans-union-says/
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Rakeris posted:Also for peeps getting furloughed or essential, can look at local/state assistance like food stamps, unemployment etc. During the last one we had peeps (in IL) get unemployment and food stamps while on furlough and having to work without pay. But doctor, I WORK for SNAP!
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Wife is expecting next week, and I'll be out until March. I wouldn't complain about not having to burn some of my planned 6 weeks of sick time.
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You don't get the 3 months parental leave in whatever agency you're in? I'm looking forward to using that at the end of next January myself. Oh nm, I see that's quite a bit longer than 3 months....
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NPS still has no updated contingency plan, probably because they're trying to figure out if they want to try using FLREA visitor fees to keep parks open again even though the GAO slapped the Trump administration for it last time. Either way I'm 100% on the non-exempted list, so 
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sexy tiger boobs posted:You don't get the 3 months parental leave in whatever agency you're in? Yep, between sick -> annual -> parental I'm stretching it out to about 5 months. Will be down to about 3 weeks each of sick and annual banked when I come back.
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