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I really like playing sand king, but I've got sub 50% wr and I feel like my damage output isn't amazing. I usually just go wand bracer arcane blink aghs then situational items, but the enemy team is pretty anal about buying dust and sentries, which makes sense. So now I've started playing as slardar or spirit breaker and it's great popping people open, and I feel a little tankier as well.
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flashman posted:Both really, either way I'm not really sure how to get him to scale strong you need to find the perfect spot
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It feels bad as a pos5 main needing to earn role queue points to play a role that not many hope to be assigned. Last night I was given pos1 and pos3 and amazingly no one wanted to swap. My carry pool is shallow and when the remaining hero I sort of know is AM all I can say is "sorry, I asked to swap" when I get flamed. And then during the p3 round my IP had a long service interruption which most likely lead to an abandon. Some nights in Dota can just be rough. Here's hopping for no more p1's assignments while I bank queue points in the future!
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So I'm new to Dota 2 and only have about 7 hours in it so far, but this game looks pretty cracked. My only prior MOBA experience is playing Smite with friends but I never enjoyed it. Dota 2 captures my interest much more. I'm gonna take my Sven into my first non-bot game here soon, any uh beginner tips?
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Schrute Nation posted:It feels bad as a pos5 main needing to earn role queue points to play a role that not many hope to be assigned.
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Trent posted:So I'm new to Dota 2 and only have about 7 hours in it so far, but this game looks pretty cracked. My only prior MOBA experience is playing Smite with friends but I never enjoyed it. Dota 2 captures my interest much more. Brown boots then 5 Rapiers 
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Some advice for a newbie and also some for sven specifically: Know your gameplan! Dota's complicated, and figuring out what the best move for you at any given moment is really tough, so you should make it easier by thinking about what you want in advance. Everyone want to hit their timings, big items or skills that, when they get them, make a big difference. As a carry, your job is to figure out when you should be farming versus when you should actively be looking to fight. Sometimes it's as simple as go to lanes and hit creeps until your at the enemy base, sometimes you're trying to dodge the enemy until you have a big enough timing to bring the fight to them. Use the in game guides! They're a good resource for knowing what's popular and works with your hero. For sven specifically, you're probably hitting creeps until you have a farming item like mask of madness and a couple levels of cleave, then you zip around the jungle killing a million creeps until you have a big damage (daedalus or harpoon), initiation (Blink dagger, shadowblade, or harpoon), or survival item (shadowblade, BKB). Figuring out which one you want is tough, and there's rarely a single right answer, so it's good to experiment and think about it. Dying sucks, and is inevitable. You'll die, lose gold, feel bad, and watch as your teammates ping the enemies items and levels a million times. But it's not a big deal. Stick to a gameplan. If you're playing sven, you're trying get big money, to get big items, to get big hits. Dying sets you back a little, but it also resets your hero. You get back full life, full mana, and a TP scroll, and some time to reset your cooldowns. Take a breath, figure out where you are on the gameplan, and figure out where's the best place on the map to go. Sometimes it's good to die! Especially in lane, sometimes you might be teetering on a knifes edge HP wise, step out of place and die. Early game, your death timer is short, and it's a free heal, and you can pick up whatever items you had in base, while your enemy sits at half life and no mana, so you're suddenly coming back to a really easy lane. This comes into my next point. Regen items are important! Buy More! lots of people one and done a set of tangoes or two, a healing salve if they're feeling saucy, then beeline whatever items. These people tend to sit around lane at low hp dying or being useless, so don't be like them. You don't need to die to get your resources back! Ship yourself a set of tangoes if your first 3 don't cut it, if the HP lets you last hit two more creeps then they've more then paid for themselves, and a clarity potion shipped to you while your jungling lets you cast spells and items more freely, speeding you up way more then the 50 gold cost. You don't need to be topped off at all times, but just be aware there's a blurry line between "enough HP" and "basically dead already" and it's better to be on the upper end, even if it costs you a little gold in the laning phase. If you kill your lane opponents and spent all your mana and HP doing it, then keep in mind that they're coming back with full HP and mana and you're stuck with whatever you got, so investing in staying on the upper hand is often a good call. For sven advice specifically, the best thing you can do is usually going to be running between your ancient camps. Make sure you're stacking them if you have the chance, sven is incredible at clearing them and it's often easier with multiple stacks then without them. When fighting a stack of neutrals as sven, you want to hit the camp, then run back a bit so the creeps spend time walking to you instead of hitting you. Kiting camps is really important early and saves you a lot of HP. Good Luck and Have Fun!
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Yay new players! Sven seems to be a good pick right now. Carry can be a good role to start with so you learn to last hit. If you're liking the game maybe do random draft or something to try new positions if you feel like it. When you're low ranked it's a good time to explore other roles. It kinda always is but if you get good at one it's hard to get into another. And dabbling in roles that you expect to support you as Sven helps you to know what they should be doing and how to help them do their job. Learning to play 4 or 5 also helps with role queue so you can be sure you can play sven when you want to.
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Glory to Italia!
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I spectated a couple of Sven games to see what other people do and they did a lot of farming on creeps so I tried to emulate that and I didn't seem to do nearly as much damage when I tried it. I probably did not have the right items. Items are always the most complicated part of MOBAs. I tried leveling his 2 and buying strength items but I still hit like a wet noodle
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If you have questions about which items to buy, this website is very useful: https://dota2protracker.com/ It can show common items for heroes across different roles and you can see skill builds too. Obviously you need to understand a little bit about the game to see why they build skills or buy which items but you can ask here. Edit: You can also sort by high MMR only and all MMR. Make sure to look primarily at high MMR lol.
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Trent posted:I spectated a couple of Sven games to see what other people do and they did a lot of farming on creeps so I tried to emulate that and I didn't seem to do nearly as much damage when I tried it. I probably did not have the right items. Items are always the most complicated part of MOBAs. Yeah strength is a nice side benefit on Sven, not a big priority A roughly ideal Sven game for the first six items right now is power treads, mask of madness, echo sabre, black king bar, blink dagger, silver edge That might be too much information right now, but I’d suggest playing another bot game or two with that item build in mind. You will feel a huge difference in how fast you farm. You can select the in-game guide from ImmortalFaith which will let you find all the items more easily (Item builds are very flexible in dota once you know the purpose of each one. It just really pays to have a plan when you’re starting out.) Also welcome to dota! This game really is great, impossibly deep, and at times incredibly rewarding.
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Trent posted:I spectated a couple of Sven games to see what other people do and they did a lot of farming on creeps so I tried to emulate that and I didn't seem to do nearly as much damage when I tried it. I probably did not have the right items. Items are always the most complicated part of MOBAs. If you open up the shop in game (default key is f4), to the left you should see a "browse guides" button. If you hit that, you can select a pre-built guide that gives you suggestions for your items, what order you should put points in your skills, and more. Some of them will even give you explanations regarding these skills and items underneath the tooptip when you hover over them. Tortedelini is generally the most popular guide maker at any given time because he does his best to keep them up to date with meta, as well as filling in the extra information on skills and items he suggests.
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I wonder what the game would be like today if the community hadn't poo poo a brick when Valve tried to introduce the idea of elemental damage.
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Sab669 posted:Brown boots then 5 Rapiers I just played a game with a PL who bought gloves then a rapier. We ended up winning because he died and we got it back on me, the magnus who already had a daedalus. Not the smartest choice but certainly made for a fun match. I am guessing he was high or something because he stayed off comms and made some other unique choices during the match. Unranked gets some wild stuff sometimes.
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I know it's a meme and I'm definitely not saying I'm better than people at my rank, but me having 500 something games seeing people with nearly 10K games do the most dumb poo poo ever is so frustrating. Like how do you even play this game that much but you're still stuck in Herald? I really should join the Pyrion Flax Discord thing, at least I can lose while having fun then. rkd_ fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Sep 22, 2023 |
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I didn't know I could still get a dead reckoning chest after a match. Was that because I won with a Muerta on my team or was that just a coincidence?
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rkd_ posted:I know it's a meme and I'm definitely not saying I'm better than people at my rank, but me shaving 500 something games seeing people with nearly 10K games do the most dumb poo poo ever is so frustrating. Like how do you even play this game that much but you're still stuck in Herald? dota is a game where its extremely easy to do habitual bad poo poo and not notice it if you don't actively think about the game
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ItohRespectArmy posted:dota is a game where its extremely easy to do habitual bad poo poo and not notice it if you don't actively think about the game I'd totally get it if it was accidentally overextending or misplays, but it's literally going somewhere solo when we know the enemy team is there, when we know enemy team has vision, TPing in after the team is already dead... But yeah, I guess that might also fall under 'habitual bad poo poo' actually
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rkd_ posted:I know it's a meme and I'm definitely not saying I'm better than people at my rank, but me shaving 500 something games seeing people with nearly 10K games do the most dumb poo poo ever is so frustrating. Like how do you even play this game that much but you're still stuck in Herald? My sweet summer child. We don’t have fun.
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rkd_ posted:I'd totally get it if it was accidentally overextending or misplays, but it's literally going somewhere solo when we know the enemy team is there, when we know enemy team has vision, TPing in after the team is already dead... But yeah, I guess that might also fall under 'habitual bad poo poo' actually the important thing to understand about dota is that like, a very serious number of dota players do not actually understand how to play dota like at all.
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I'd advise NOT playing Dota2 ranked for a while until the midas bug is fixed, apparently backpacking it reduces the cooldown https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/12067
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:I just played a game with a PL who bought gloves then a rapier. We ended up winning because he died and we got it back on me, the magnus who already had a daedalus. Not the smartest choice but certainly made for a fun match. I am guessing he was high or something because he stayed off comms and made some other unique choices during the match. 6700 hours of dota and i've played maybe 6682 of them stoned out my face
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:I just played a game with a PL who bought gloves then a rapier. We ended up winning because he died and we got it back on me, the magnus who already had a daedalus. Not the smartest choice but certainly made for a fun match. I am guessing he was high or something because he stayed off comms and made some other unique choices during the match. Tactically Feeding a Rapier is my favorite strategy Finally broke yesterday's 9-loss-streak by becoming what I hate the most: a sniper picker
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Mother in laws dog got his by a car. It's thankfully fine, but my behavior score and lpq status?
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flashman posted:Mother in laws dog got his by a car. It's thankfully fine, but my behavior score and lpq status? i'm not sure they track your attempted vehicular ganks
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grinding out 3 lpq wins , always knew i disliked that dog
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the thing about lpq games is that they are the exact same as regular games
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Yeah they're pretty good but the queue can be long, I escaped prerrt easily this time. Single draft is bomb tho
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I cant even tip at my behavior score so at least the game itself admits that the feature is only meant to be used as toxic
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I've seen a few sincere tipping for good plays, recently
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My last game we baited the enemy team into a full-on chaos dunk and our whole team tipped the ES afterwards. I only BM tip if I got BM tipped first, turnabout is fair play.
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I tip good plays all the time! Get that behavior score up
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It's insanely hard, harder than actual mmr.
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I’m at 12000 behavior score and definitely only tip enemies after they rage buy back or black hole a minion wave
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TOOT BOOT posted:I wonder what the game would be like today if the community hadn't poo poo a brick when Valve tried to introduce the idea of elemental damage. Double edged sword scenario; on one hand it introduces a new way to play and think about spells, on the other hand it creates game endorsed synergies. Game endorsed will turn to player enforced as people will report others for the perceived crime of playing a crystal maiden with brewmaster, instead of using jakiro who can maximize brews damage with liquid fire. I’d imagine it can become a balancing nightmare too, you’d have to think about how a skill from a hero can be impacted by another’s based on synergies with damage type. But that already exists today without special damage. Would’ve been neat to see items based on dealing/mitigating elements. Like a versions of cloak that can toggle a favored element to reduce damage of that type.
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idk having to buy “magic resist item but only for one type of magic” sounds boring
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The only way elemental magic damage would make sense is if they just mapped the current system onto something like poison = dispellable damage over time, fire = undispellable damage over time, lightning = pure, "arcane" = magic or something so there was some shorthand for the things that are affected by dispels and magic Specific rock/paper/scissors magic types would be another annoying layer of confusion on top of the existing system
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I think the only way it could have stuck was if it were done with as much fanfare as the new map update and every hero got in on the elemental action, at the time it was just like the one Brewmaster ability working with various fire-based spells, right?
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If I wanted elemental weaknesses and resistances in a MOBA/FARTS I'd play Pokemon UNITE which doesn't have them anyway
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goku i won't do what u tell me