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I think it's pretty clear that Jason Reitman just meant gb2016 was a bad movie, and for that little money Leslie Jones shouldn't bother defending them imo
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tbh fans didn't want a story where seconds after gb2 ended Egon exiled himself and died alone and miserable either reminds me of John Connor dying 2 seconds after the end of T2 according to the new terminator film lol
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i say swears online posted:67,000 goddamn That's such a ludicrously low amount that I'm having a hard time believing it's true.
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loquacius posted:gb2016 was a bad movie, and for that little money Leslie Jones shouldn't bother defending them imo online culture war discourse is so fuckin' stupid and tiring
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I've started Only Murders in the Building season 3. Episode 1 is good.
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did any of the other stars bother trying to defend the honor of ghostbusters 2016 or did they just shrug their shoulders and go whatever i got paid who gives a poo poo
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Just watched the Richie episode of The Bear, and I can see where people were complaining about season 2 being too pro- fine dining and expensive gentrification poo poo but I also think it really fits Richie's character arc. The Seven Fishes episode was still probably better but this ep was also really good, just without being depressing. Also my wife pointed out that the viewer's whiplash from the show going from being about a cheap sandwich joint to being about a high concept fine dining establishment in season 2 mirrors the characters' whiplash at the exact same transition, notably Richie's
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Regarde Aduck posted:reminds me of John Connor dying 2 seconds after the end of T2 according to the new terminator film lol lol
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I watched the first two episodes of the third season of The Morning Show. I can no longer recall if it was always there in prior seasons, but there's a very strong undercurrent of emphasizing that this takes place in the real-real world: - the world is only just emerging from the COVID pandemic - abortion bans play a role in a major subplot - the Ukraine conflict is currently happening - Reese Witherspoon's character gets a journalism award for being on-the-ground and reporting on Jan 6 - the network execs are worried about the next election being a close-run thing One of the main throughlines in the plot is that the network went big on streaming services, but they're in trouble now because people aren't streaming as much anymore since COVID is over, so the network head (Billy Crudup, who is excellent here) is trying to buddy up with a billionaire tech investor played by Jon Hamm. Hamm's character owns a spaceflight company, he has an abrasive, domineering personality, and wants to buy the network to burnish his public profile. I originally was going to write that he sounds like he's supposed to be Elon Musk, but honestly it could just as well be Jeff Bezos. Anyway, I bring it up because the first episode revolves around Jennifer Aniston's character being enlisted to join the maiden flight of the space company's rocket, alongside Jon Hamm's billionaire character, and it sticks out like a sore thumb because you can tell it was written in that period in time after Bezos and Richard Branson's respective stunts, but BEFORE the Stockton Crush submarine incident.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEGNbYVwVEk not quite as ironically funny as the 1619 project lady doing pr for them, but still a good lol
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insane clown pussy posted:not quite as ironically funny as the 1619 project lady doing pr for them, but still a good lol lol at least it wasn't bacardi or brer rabbit molasses or something
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i mean funding and providing material support for genocide in nigeria is up there
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insane clown pussy posted:i mean funding and providing material support for genocide in nigeria is up there what, like, the biafran war?
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i say swears online posted:what, like, the biafran war? i was thinking of their more direct involvement in the ogoni massacres, but yeah that too
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1glitch0 posted:That's such a ludicrously low amount that I'm having a hard time believing it's true. overpaid across the board. kinda hosed up how that mirrors ernie hudsons gb experience tho. holywod is racist who would have thought i know a lot of people started watching the 2016 movie but how many finished it ?
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Nix Panicus posted:Its a thinly veiled metaphor on race relations, including interspecies dating i have exactly one memory of this show and it involves the alien cop guy giving his human cop partner interspecies dating advice to the effect of chicks dig it when you rub their elbows and that genitals are some gay human thing we arent into that poo poo
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Ammanas posted:overpaid across the board. quote:i know a lot of people started watching the 2016 movie but how many finished it ? i went with my dad. i had never seen the originals and had no nostalgia for them. it was bad
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Regarde Aduck posted:tbh fans didn't want a story where seconds after gb2 ended Egon exiled himself and died alone and miserable either I am growing increasingly suspicious of this current obsession American media has with dredging up every beloved story from the past 70 years and retconning away their happy endings with new bad endings where actually the characters all became suicidal divorcees who don’t leave behind any children so their family is wiped out root and stem when they die. In fact if they had children previously the child is killed. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Terminator, Ghostbusters (well technically Egon does leave descendants there albeit estranged ones), Picard did it in the first two seasons before walking it back in the third. I understand making bad sequels to things that should have been left finished, that’s just the standard capitalist greed Hollywood has always had. It’s this weird extremely specific form of it. Knowing how insular Hollywood is it’s probably just that everyone in their little social circle all ended up as childless divorcees and they’re going to make all of us at the bar miserable until someone relents and picks up their tab.
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I thought lady ghostbusters was ok
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Regarde Aduck posted:reminds me of John Connor dying 2 seconds after the end of T2 according to the new terminator film lol the video posted about terminator dark fate wasnt my thing in general but i did like how he noted that having a girl poc do literally the exact same plot that a white boy did three decades ago isnt actually progressive its literally white supremacy well he didnt say anything about white supremacy i was just thinking it is why the video wasnt my thing
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galagazombie posted:I am growing increasingly suspicious of this current obsession American media has with dredging up every beloved story from the past 70 years and retconning away their happy endings with new bad endings where actually the characters all became suicidal divorcees who don’t leave behind any children so their family is wiped out root and stem when they die. In fact if they had children previously the child is killed. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Terminator, Ghostbusters (well technically Egon does leave descendants there albeit estranged ones), Picard did it in the first two seasons before walking it back in the third. Blade Runner kind of did this but also didn't.
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Miss Lonelyhearts posted:Blade Runner kind of did this but also didn't.
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galagazombie posted:It’s this weird extremely specific form of it. Knowing how insular Hollywood is it’s probably just that everyone in their little social circle all ended up as childless divorcees and they’re going to make all of us at the bar miserable until someone relents and picks up their tab. rather I think its an easy way to provide some grimdork this is a SERIOUS sequel, unlike those crappy Joel Schumacher movies! This ain't yo' daddy's rebootquel. And also not pay actors $$$$$ to return, and leads into an easy way to start a clean slate cast with a modicum of continuity. plus everyone is like old: they know no one wants to watch a 90 year old bill murphy try to catch some ghosts or w/e. but mostly the money thing
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Xaris posted:I dunno I thought BR2049 was overall a pretty happy continuation of the original. except for I guess Rachel, and i guess ford's exile. I mean the original blade runner wasn't really a happy ending -I mean depending on the cut, but I think everyone's just assumes dealers choice of non-theatrical at this point- type of film and neither was the remake. Both, to me at least, had pretty similar atmospheres, and feelings of endings of ends. Not identical obviously, but both had a very heady mixed emotions type deal going on with the endings. BR2049 was probably a bit happier, but it still had those elements of sadness pretty forward as well. As far as very belated sequels goes I'd say it was one of the best at nailing the atmosphere and tone while still very much being it's own thing. Great movie in it's own rights.
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Shia Labeouf's Mutt was poorly written and stupidly named and didn't catch on as the successor to Indiana Jones. Plus Labeouf had a real life meltdown and then did a weird art-porno movie and wasn't wholesome and bankable anymore so they murdered him for a quick hit of pathos in the ill advised *5th* Indiana Jones movie. Also Ghostbusters 2016 suffered from too much improv and bits that went on way past the point where they got stale. Its like someone read about adlibbing in the original movie but then didnt actually watch the movie to see how tight the adlib segments really were
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Nix Panicus posted:Also Ghostbusters 2016 suffered from too much improv and bits that went on way past the point where they got stale. Its like someone read about adlibbing in the original movie but then didnt actually watch the movie to see how tight the adlib segments really were Was there much ab libbed in the original? Like I could see a line here or there, but it seems like a really tightly scripted movie. And yeah movies with with a lot of ablibbing can work really well, but you need to have a script that allows for it and make it work, comedians that can do it, and and editor that can work with it. Seems ghostbusters 2016 had one of those three. Like they actually got a good really good cast. At least two of them really like as comedians, although I haven't checked how many of them actually have a stand up/improv background? Few of them are SNL so I assume so? But yeah you can get actors who can deliver a great comedic performance, but are a bit poo poo at coming up with their own material as there pretty different skills (A lot of really great comedy writers are poo poo at even reading their own material).
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It's really just pointless edge for cheap pathos and setups for a big plot to save the whatever by writers who don't understand the point of the story and don't care, they want their big new drama and don't see how it undermines the nostalgia they're banking on to start with 'Oh the protagonists you love were total failures and everything they did came undone five minutes after the credits rolled'. Especially when they never actually get around to fixing the things that went wrong, like lol they never actually got around to defeating the First Order at all
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Happy endings being undone in the sequel isn't that weird since you need conflict for the characters, the real problem is the story being too beholden to the old cast instead of leaving them out of the plot (or giving them something new and interesting to do instead of undoing their previous victory so you can redo the same beats). But then this is the age of sequels and fanservice, so they gotta show up I guess.
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YaketySass posted:Happy endings being undone in the sequel isn't that weird since you need conflict for the characters, the real problem is the story being too beholden to the old cast instead of leaving them out of the plot (or giving them something new and interesting to do instead of undoing their previous victory so you can redo the same beats). But then this is the age of sequels and fanservice, so they gotta show up I guess. Yeah, and bringing up BR2049, if Harrison ford's character had never shown up, still would of 100% felt like a blade runner sequel and I think most people would of cared in the slightest. Sure blade runners pretty different from more character based movies as it is so much more about the setting and ideas, but there's plenty of examples of just using the setting working though. Going hard on fan service really has hosed up a lot of sequels though. Particularly really creative original ideas that just become increasingly stale as all they think to do is go back to the same fan service well.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEGNbYVwVEk get that money kari
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I have not seen the blade runner sequel. does it have anything as good as Batty’s death speech?
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RandolphCarter posted:I have not seen the blade runner sequel. does it have anything as good as Batty’s death speech? of course not lol
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RandolphCarter posted:I have not seen the blade runner sequel. does it have anything as good as Batty’s death speech? it doesn’t have anything good
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RandolphCarter posted:I have not seen the blade runner sequel. does it have anything as good as Batty’s death speech? That speech has been considered one of the best monologues in cinema's history ever since it released, so it's hard to match The scene with a beaten up K looking up at the giant dead-eyed Joi is pretty good
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2049 is better constructed as a whole, but the original has better peaks. they are both really good, but in different ways, imho
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products of their time really. hard to compare.
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galagazombie posted:I am growing increasingly suspicious of this current obsession American media has with dredging up every beloved story from the past 70 years and retconning away their happy endings with new bad endings where actually the characters all became suicidal divorcees who don’t leave behind any children so their family is wiped out root and stem when they die. In fact if they had children previously the child is killed. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Terminator, Ghostbusters (well technically Egon does leave descendants there albeit estranged ones), Picard did it in the first two seasons before walking it back in the third. every iteration of the terminator franchise just ignores the premise of the previous ones outside of the first two movies. it's been that way since terminator 3 the tv show from 15 years ago ended with john being sent to the future only to discover nobody had even heard of him
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the potential within the terminator story for there to be multiple failed john connors, different pockets of survivors independent of each other sending back their own version of him, no john at all, etc is actually pretty interesting and they should work with that more. the whole thing is just a jesus allegory anyway, so who cares if they screw with the concept a little
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insane clown pussy posted:the potential within the terminator story for there to be multiple failed john connors, different pockets of survivors independent of each other sending back their own version of him, no john at all, etc is actually pretty interesting and they should work with that more. the whole thing is just a jesus allegory anyway, so who cares if they screw with the concept a little it's like all the suppressed gospels with crazy(ier) theories of jesus
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