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FireWorksWell posted:Probably shouldn't be in here until I finish the show but oh well. I'm only tangentially aware of most AT lore, but isn't it implied that most of the other beings are from before the mushroom war?
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Neito posted:I'm only tangentially aware of most AT lore, but isn't it implied that most of the other beings are from before the mushroom war? I think a lot of them are mutants caused by the mushroom war? Also one thing I noticed upon watching the series again is while they refer to the waste from the bombs as radioactive, they don't call them atomic bombs but rather mutagenic bombs.
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That could have been a weird decision from higher up, too. Kind of like 80s - 90s shows saying "destroy" instead of "kill."
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Waffle! posted:That could have been a weird decision from higher up, too. Kind of like 80s - 90s shows saying "destroy" instead of "kill." The Ocean dub of Dragon Ball Z referred to killing as "Phasing into another dimension" or being "Sent to the next dimension", which was a hilarious choice.
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Not mousing over spoilers since I'm in the middle of finishing up the original so I can watch Fionna and Cake, but it's funny to see other goons hitting the same wall I did. The Flame Princess stuff was where I fell off, not so much because it was low energy and boring (it didn't help) but also because it felt like a weird thing where a show about teenage angst and Finn trying to date princesses wasn't really for my grown adult self anymore even if it was probably cool for the audience that was growing up with it. But now that I kind of know that they stuck with all the deeper lore and character development stuff it's a lot easier to just get through it. Happy to hear that Fionna and Cake is going over well.
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Me: "I should see what the mushroom thing was about" *Wiki page scroll bar is about a 16th of an inch long* Me: "fukkin nope"
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I don't even remember why I stopped watching AT first time but it was also at the flame Princess stuff which probably isn't a coincidence. I think I just lost interest. And here I am now in S7
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I tried with AT from the beginning, but I didn't get it and stopped. When I picked it up years later I jumped straight to the sixth season and mostly just jumped back and forth for a while and that's when I got the appeal. Pretty sure I haven't seen even half of seasons 2 through 5, but I like the show a lot and I'll probably pick them back up at some point.
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i preferred the show when it was less serialized, but maybe a rewatch would be better. i also didn't like the fionna and cake episodes after the first one, but wow am i loving the fionna and cake show 
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Adventure Time and Regular Show both getting increasingly romance-focused at the same time was like 9/11 to my little kid brain
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:99% of F&C will be adventure time nostalgia for those that grew up on it, but oh boy the animation is actually quite good, this in particular. Macaluso posted:The animator of that sequence is on Twitter as well, and so is the background artist. The background artist, you guys are probably familiar with, Emmy Cicierega. Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Speaking of which, for those interested in the boarding for that musical number. I never really got into Adventure Time, but this reminded me quite a lot of this sequence from the Rapunzel spinoff Disney series. The series itself won a bunch of big awards thanks to its animation and bonkers amazing vocal cast, but I remember this song being a huge deal in animation circles when it aired a few years ago because of the storyboarding in general and especially the bit at 2:20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1q-dnX21LM Hazo fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Sep 22, 2023 |
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Ccs posted:I think a lot of them are mutants caused by the mushroom war? Also one thing I noticed upon watching the series again is while they refer to the waste from the bombs as radioactive, they don't call them atomic bombs but rather mutagenic bombs. My own understanding of the lore is that The bombs used during the Mushroom War were made from the essence of The Lich, extracted from the meteor that hit Earth millions of years in the past during Evergreen. The bombs ended up not only creating The Lich in his modern incarnation, but also affected the nature of the world such that magic became a powerful force on the planet once again. So the various weirdos seen during the series are a combination of mutants from The War and things either created or drawn to the planet after magic re-emerged Also I'm loving Fionna and Cake so far, from how the story's going I think they're building up to Simon not putting the crown back on and recognizing that the way to help Fionna and Cake is to recognize that the imaginative, slightly far-out part of him that created the old F&C fan fictions didn't entirely come from the madness of the Ice King and that that's the part of him Betty originally fell in love with. Basically him realizing that writing dumb fan fiction about Fionna and Cake is a part of him and something that can help him process his feelings about Betty and the world he now finds himself in. I'm also really hoping Simon and Betty are reunited in some way, even if it ends up being bittersweet. Given how things went in the episodes leading up to the finale of the original series I'm almost wondering if the reason she's been absent since fusing with GOLB isn't because she's an incomprehensible being of chaos, it's because she took Magic Man's lesson to heart, realized she's kind of lost who she is after making so much of her life revolve around Simon and has needed to take some time alone to find herself again...as an incomprehensible god of chaos. Look, I just really like these two goobers and want them to have some kind of happy ending.
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Ccs posted:Its really good, I've been going back to check stuff I missed like the Elements and Islands miniseries. I can really feel the show stretching itself as far as it could go as a kids show with those events. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr53S9vIbCE Here's the vid for those curious. It's not spoiler-y per se other than obviously being a "finale" song. KingKalamari posted:My own understanding of the lore is that The bombs used during the Mushroom War were made from the essence of The Lich, extracted from the meteor that hit Earth millions of years in the past during Evergreen. The bombs ended up not only creating The Lich in his modern incarnation, but also affected the nature of the world such that magic became a powerful force on the planet once again. So the various weirdos seen during the series are a combination of mutants from The War and things either created or drawn to the planet after magic re-emerged I think it's heavily implied that Princess Bubblegum is a product of the magic/radiation that came from the mushroom war - she manifests first as a blob and slowly gains sentience until becoming PB. All the candy people and kingdom are actually her creations, and come directly from her, and would not exist without her I also hit the same wall as everyone else around flame princess time - I think it is just one of the weaker parts of the show and a bit of a slog. It's important for Finn's development so it's still good, it just doesn't hit as well as some of the other stuff. The way they handle his angst and adolescence later is way, way better done. They also got a bit more experimental and less strictly serial later too.
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KingKalamari posted:Look, I just really like these two goobers and want them to have some kind of happy ending.  Those flashbacks with Simon and Marcy, that "song" they made out of Simon's notes and unsent letters sorta broke my heart. Goddamn that dude deserved better after raising a kid in the wasteland.
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What AT episodes could I watch to get caught up with the story as stands in F&C? I don't fancy watching 7 seasons of AT.
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The_Doctor posted:What AT episodes could I watch to get caught up with the story as stands in F&C? I don't fancy watching 7 seasons of AT. None, Adam Muto loves the idea of everything being ultimately inscrutable.
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The_Doctor posted:What AT episodes could I watch to get caught up with the story as stands in F&C? I don't fancy watching 7 seasons of AT. These are the main ones previously referenced, except for the first one, which was included because it introduces the Ice King Prisoners of Love (S01E03) Holly Jolly Secrets (S03E19 & S03E20) I Remember You (S04E25) Simon & Marcy (S05E14) The Lich (S04E25) Finn the Human / Jake the Dog (two-part Season 5 premiere) Betty (S05E48) Evergreen (S06E24) You Forgot Your Floaties (S06E38) Crossover (S07E23) - follow-up to the AU Finn from "Finn the Human"/"Jake the Dog" with more important Prismo lore Come Along With Me parts 3 & 4 (S10E15-S10E16) - intersects with an unrelated storyline involving Finn losing his arm and then having it replaced with a cursed sword shaped like a grass sword that becomes a duplicate Finn called Fern who struggles with evil impulses edit: I integrated the changes from removed thanks alot assbag's post galenanorth fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Sep 24, 2023 |
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I’m delighted you all are enjoying it but for someone with only a passing familiarity with the series the last page or so has been utter gibberish.
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The Flame Princess breakup stuff is good tbh
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The_Doctor posted:What AT episodes could I watch to get caught up with the story as stands in F&C? I don't fancy watching 7 seasons of AT. That's a surprisingly difficult thing to do. While galenanorth gave a good rundown of the episodes directly referenced, just watching those is going to leave some major holes in your understanding of the story. Adventure Time is one of those series that isn't directly serialized but managed to build up a whole bunch of continuity and status quo changes over the years meaning that to understand what's going on in some of the episodes mentioned you'll need to have seen other episodes, which will require you to have seen other episodes. So, for instance, The season 3 finale episode mentioned in the other post, The Lich, is an episode whose events directly build off the events of a bunch of episodes before it: It's something of a sequel episode to the two parter finale for season 2 (Mortal Folly and Mortal Recoil), but it also heavily involves a character introduced in the final episode of season 1 (Billy), An object introduced in an episode in season 1 (The Enchiridion) and had another episode in season 3 whose events lead directly into it (In Your Footsteps). There's also a bunch of characters and concepts that show up and play semi-important roles in the series that you'd need to watch episodes not mentioned on the list to understand: The setting for the first couple of episodes has strong connections to concepts from the Islands mini-series, which also requries you to have seen th two parter that sets up the plot of said miniseries as well as 3-4 additional episodes about Susan Strong; one of the two recent episodes is heavily based on the Stakes mini-series, The plot of Come Along with Me and Betty's character arc in general is going to require some degree of familiarity with Magic Man and the Mars society, which requires watching an additional 6+ episodes dealing with Magic Man's backstory, Grob Gob Glob Grod and Mars... I tried to make up a truncated version of the series that just touches on the main plotlines and it's still over 100 episodes long. Though I guess that's still an improvement over the 284 of the series as a whole...
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It took me like a full day to realize that Marceline in the Oops! All Vampires Timeline is called The Star because it's continuing the Tarot theme from Stakes.
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Hazo posted:I never really got into Adventure Time, but this reminded me quite a lot of this sequence from the Rapunzel spinoff Disney series. The series itself won a bunch of big awards thanks to its animation and bonkers amazing vocal cast, but I remember this song being a huge deal in animation circles when it aired a few years ago because of the storyboarding in general and especially the bit at 2:20 the song is killer but it's undermined in context by Cass's betrayal being mostly unearned and her having no plan other than conjuring rocks and making faces
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Every 5 seconds in Fionna and Cake is at least a fun little nod to a past character/storyline. There's definitely some filler and skippable episodes of AT, but trying to breeze through it all and get all the plot would be a challenge.
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Fionna and Cake rules so far. It's literally the only example I can think of where a piece of media took all of its previous lore, used it, and congealed it into an excellent sequel story. What sucks about it, is that if you want to launch directly into it without watching any other Adventure Time, you almost certainly won't understand WHY it's so good. Someone ought to make a clip show primer, or something. The aforementioned list of episodes is good too, but I'd make changes: Evergreen - is necessary viewing because it introduces the Ice Crown as a Wish Crown Crossover - more important Prismo lore and subtract all of the Gumball War stuff and just watch the last half of Come Along With Me I'm still floored that they made something this good! I hope they stick the landing but I have a LOT of faith that they will.
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Agreed, in fact I wouldn’t mind seeing more AT related content in the future (even the more adult elements they added to this show feel completely natural) Though I will also agree that the show doesn’t work quite as well if you don’t have at least a familiarity with the basic plot of Adventure Time Larryb fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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The_Doctor posted:What AT episodes could I watch to get caught up with the story as stands in F&C? I don't fancy watching 7 seasons of AT. galenanorth posted:These are the main ones previously referenced, except for the first one, which was included because it introduces the Ice King You should also watch Stakes. Episodes 6-13 of season seven. Stakes is really good.
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Adventure Time is one of the best shows ever made and everyone should watch all of it if only to see the quality progression and evolving lore
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It kinda sucks to newbies like me that they make a whole new AT series that seems like it would be an excellent jumping on point, but in fact it’s the opposite of that, and you need to know basically everything beforehand. Like, at this point I’m almost shrugging and walking away completely.
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You could just go back and watch the show if you're interested. It isn't any less worth watching because it didn't air this week That's what I'm doing. It was a coincidence though - I didn't even know F+C existed and I haven't liked the alt gender swap versions anyway so I'm more excited about watching distant lands. I'm sure I'll enjoy F+C when I get to it though.
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The_Doctor posted:It kinda sucks to newbies like me that they make a whole new AT series that seems like it would be an excellent jumping on point, but in fact it’s the opposite of that, and you need to know basically everything beforehand. Like, at this point I’m almost shrugging and walking away completely. It’s honestly not that bad, I hadn’t seen AT in years and haven’t had any trouble following along so far. As long as you know what Simon's deal is and have at least a passing familiarity with the characters you should be fine Speaking of though, is the original show and its related specials still up on Paramount+ and the like or did they axe that as well? Larryb fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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I enjoyed the original Adventure Time pilot/short and none of the rest that I tried. Algebraic!
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I’m enjoying Fionna and Cake, I kind of like the extremely brief story Simon gets in the montage at the end of the last episode of Adventure Time, which suggests he gets closure after a long period of trying everything possible to return Betty and is happy with his friends. Seeing him do some version of that same story (probably) in more than three split-second cuts makes me appreciate how good the finale of Adventure Time is. It’s better when most of it is left up to implication. I feel the same way about the engineer lady taking over the train in Infinity Train. I’m kind of glad they didn’t do their intended season/movie about her taking over the train.
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Baldur’s Gate 3 made me put off a lot of TV so I’m just now finishing Praise Petey season 1. It’s fine, I guess.
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Escobarbarian posted:Baldur’s Gate 3 made me put off a lot of TV so I’m just now finishing Praise Petey season 1. *with a Reed stick* no! BAD
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The_Doctor posted:It kinda sucks to newbies like me that they make a whole new AT series that seems like it would be an excellent jumping on point, but in fact it’s the opposite of that, and you need to know basically everything beforehand. Like, at this point I’m almost shrugging and walking away completely. Then watch Stakes! Stakes is an excellent jumping on point, it has references to past events and hints at deeper character stuff, but it's also a fully self-contained story arc that you'll be able to grasp and really enjoy even without knowing the background stuff.
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Escobarbarian posted:Adventure Time is one of the best shows ever made and everyone should watch all of it if only to see the quality progression and evolving lore empty quote
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Speaking of, is all of AT (including the specials) still legally available anywhere? Fiona & Cake kind of inspired me to do a rewatch of the original
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Larryb posted:Speaking of, is all of AT (including the specials) still legally available anywhere? Fiona & Cake kind of inspired me to do a rewatch of the original They're all up on (HBO) Max. You have to look for Distant Lands for the post cartoon network pre Fiona and Cake eps.
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The best part of any of the original Fiona and cake episodes of adventure time were the punchlines at the end when the whole thing turns out to be the ice kings fanfic he is reading to a captive audience. This full episode popped into my youtube suggestions with all of the new adventure time stuff out, this is a good episode to watch of adventure time if you want probably one of the best for sad ice king backstory's and a emotional ride, especially if you've ever had a loved one get alzheimers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnCT7d7THpY Has my recommendation if you haven't watched adventure time before but were curious. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Sep 24, 2023 |
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