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Few things would make me less upset than Malofeev being sent to the oubliette.
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Sep 23, 2023 18:24
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https://twitter.com/yasminalombaert/status/1705550288390688860quote:Fear in Sevastopol.
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Sep 23, 2023 18:25
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Cope shelters. Flooded, used as the city dumps, just unserviceable. Then Russia will whine about ukrianian unfairness when their citizens die in the bombings due to a lack of emergency services like bomb shelters. Literally Russia could give a gently caress about its citizens, people, or anyone. They have shown themselves to be so vicious that human life matters less than the narrative. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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Sep 23, 2023 18:26
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"We won't need shelters, they'll never make it this far south. The money will make a nice Dacha for me instead!  "
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Sep 23, 2023 18:31
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I like how Razvozhaev's cope is that it was impossible to predict Crimea being lit up every single day now.
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Sep 23, 2023 18:35
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"okay, first of all, those 'bomb shelters' were NEVER fit for purpose, and they will not be improved in any way" now that's what I call Local Leadership™
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Sep 23, 2023 18:47
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zone posted:
Better to declaw all the rabid nationalists now, before they all get worked up into a lather when the really bad news about the war starts.
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Sep 23, 2023 19:02
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Mr. Sunshine posted:I wonder if any EU country is ever gonna realize that the only way to get Russian jets and subs to stop loving around inside our borders is to start shooting at them... I like the Biden approach of sending "small" amount of weapons. Which could be from 10 to 5000. Honestly I am not sure if any EU country has the capability of attacking a submerged sub. Maybe France? But they only have like 1 task force and it is busy terrorizing Africa
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Sep 23, 2023 19:02
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Comstar posted:Hell, you can't hide the big oil tanks, and missiles will hit them with ease if you can knock out the Air Defense first. Hell, the Navy and air force oil tanks are probably easier to hit than the planes and ships that at least can move about. If the Japanese had hit the oil tanks and repair shops at Pearl harbour the Pacific fleet would have been kicked back to San Fransisco anyway. The Third Strike theory about Pearl Harbor overlooks three important things. 1. The defenses would have been fully alert. The attackers would have lost a lot of planes and irreplaceable aircrew. 2. The oil storage was designed to minimize this sort of attack. Each tank was enclosed by a berm high enough to hold if the tank was smashed and dumping oil out, so a bomb hit would only get one tank, and there were over two hundred of them. Smoke from the first hits would obscure the targets for the later bombers. Each attack wave was only about 130 bombers, so even if they all got hits that's only a little over half of the tanks destroyed. 3. The US Navy had the tanker capacity to run the submarine campaign and the early carrier raids in the Western Pacific. The underground fuel storage at Pearl was almost ready when the attack happened, its construction would have been rushed. This would have had some impact on operations elsewhere, but not enough to seriously impeded the war effort. For the long version, see Zimm's The Attack on Pearl Harbor.
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Sep 23, 2023 19:03
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tiaz posted:"okay, first of all, those 'bomb shelters' were NEVER fit for purpose, and they will not be improved in any way" now that's what I call Local Leadership™ In case of emergency requiring shelter bring your own chairs, also water and if necessary bring shelter as that can not be relied on either.
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Sep 23, 2023 19:08
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:In case of emergency requiring shelter bring your own chairs, also water and if necessary bring shelter as that can not be relied on either. ...So that the local policeman running a stick-up operation have water and chairs to sit while they collect you an entry fee or beat you up and kick you out.
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Sep 23, 2023 19:17
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Sekenr posted:Maybe France? But they only have like 1 task force and it is busy terrorizing Africa Uh no our guys who are getting replaced with reasonable Wagner guys atm, a massive win for african civilians obv.
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Sep 23, 2023 19:18
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rowkey bilbao posted:Uh no our guys who are getting replaced with reasonable Wagner guys atm, a massive win for african civilians obv. Frenchman spotted, being normal
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Sep 23, 2023 19:25
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"We didnt actually expect our performative act of creating 'shelters' would get used. They were just a photo op. Please return to the beaches. Tourism must continue."
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Sep 23, 2023 21:39
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Sekenr posted:Honestly I am not sure if any EU country has the capability of attacking a submerged sub. Maybe France? But they only have like 1 task force and it is busy terrorizing Africa AFAIK all of the NATO countries have marinized helicopters that can drop buoys / torpedoes, although I dunno if they all have the fancy magnetic anomaly detectors and periscope-seeking radar.
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Sep 23, 2023 22:24
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Tankie twitter is such a gold mine of hot takes. No elections = no democracy ergo Nazi Or maybe UA doesn't want to have civilians gather to get missiled by Russia They banned opposition parties! Maybe don't callaborate with Russia that is invading your country and actively trying to undermine it 2014 Maidan was a coup!! Maybe read a book, articles or just have a loving objective view that isn't Russian bias and be open minded. Tai fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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Sep 23, 2023 23:54
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Those shelters look more like torture dungeons. I'd be afraid of being locked inside more than the missiles.
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Sep 24, 2023 00:01
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BrassRoots posted:Those shelters look more like torture dungeons. I'd be afraid of being locked inside more than the missiles. Well lucky for you, if you don't bring a seat, some drinking water and a substantial amount of cash the local cops or troops will not let you in regardless.
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Sep 24, 2023 00:03
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Tai posted:They banned opposition parties! My favorite tidbit there is that it was six parties with a combined total of one (1) MP.
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Sep 24, 2023 00:12
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mllaneza posted:My favorite tidbit there is that it was six parties with a combined total of one (1) MP. but but democracy! Love how the elected MP's aren't banned but we will ignore that.
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Sep 24, 2023 00:22
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It's absolutely outrageous for a democratic party to be banned Now, when my revolutionary vanguard takes power, our first action will be to arrest all reactionary elements from opposing political parties...
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Sep 24, 2023 00:26
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Tai posted:Tankie twitter is such a gold mine of hot takes. Never forget the "2014 Odessa fire was a bunch of trade unionist protestors getting burned alive by the Ukronazis" when it was just actually just bunch of paid Russian agitators who accidentally molotoved themselves while holed up in the a trade union building by pure coincidence. Oh, and they were just randomly shooting civilians too from the roof, but no one talks about that on tankie twit or discords. But in their minds, someone was able to throw a molotov cocktail up five floors, and then have it change direction in mid-air and fly 30 feet inside the hallway of the building. Strategic Tea posted:It's absolutely outrageous for a democratic party to be banned Big fan of democracy here. That's why I staunchly support the Chinese government. What could be more democratic than a party that gets 100% of the vote? Who needs all those other parties that just get in the way of democracy. Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Sep 24, 2023 |
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Sep 24, 2023 00:29
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Yikes! https://twitter.com/AliTahmizian/status/1705564941065851281
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Sep 24, 2023 00:45
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I would need verification on this.
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Sep 24, 2023 00:48
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Yeah that sounds like a pretty big tale to tell without some kind of corroboration
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Sep 24, 2023 00:48
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I am not unbelieving of the possibility of ethnic cleansing, however unverified reports that hinge on the "targeted" killing of russian officers reporting on a massacre, especially after russian conduct in Ukraine, seems sketchy.
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Sep 24, 2023 00:55
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Well, if there are conscientious russian officers They probably go to Nagorno Karabakh if they're able. Relatively safe, you're not trying to kill your cousins, it's a good gig
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Sep 24, 2023 01:19
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Der Kyhe posted:Well lucky for you, if you don't bring a seat, some drinking water and a substantial amount of cash the local cops or troops will not let you in regardless. Are you telling me that if I bring this glorious rug to hang on the wall, and a fifth of russky standard for the boss I still have to sit on the floor?
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Sep 24, 2023 01:23
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Toxic Mental posted:Never forget the "2014 Odessa fire was a bunch of trade unionist protestors getting burned alive by the Ukronazis" when it was just actually just bunch of paid Russian agitators who accidentally molotoved themselves while holed up in the a trade union building by pure coincidence. Oh, and they were just randomly shooting civilians too from the roof, but no one talks about that on tankie twit or discords. But in their minds, someone was able to throw a molotov cocktail up five floors, and then have it change direction in mid-air and fly 30 feet inside the hallway of the building. The tankie talking point for china is that you can’t change the party but you can change the policy (lmao)
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Sep 24, 2023 01:29
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Holy poo poo. The vdv is retreating from the north of Nova Prokoivka due to Ukrianian assaults. This is huge news. Another counter offensive by Russia has been shattered. After which Ukraine has been orchestrating offensive operations this morning and last night with lots of Bradley's being used in night attacks. Things are moving in the right direction. If the VdV is shattered it will be a huge blow to Russia. Battles are ongoing in the town though. This piece of the map was a huge concentration of the last of it Putins experienced troops. Let's remember that paratroopers are light infantry, the lightest of the light infantry. The vdv does not have a lot of tanks. So Ukraine using motorized / mechanized/armored assaults against them are doubly as effective as they would be against a combined arms army. Literally the vdv is the lightest of light infantry. These guys are not made to defend areas against concentrated combined arms operations. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Sep 24, 2023 |
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Sep 24, 2023 03:38
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https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1705771792168558714
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Sep 24, 2023 03:44
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Holy poo poo. The vdv is retreating from the north of Nova Prokoivka due to Ukrianian assaults. Very Defeated Vatniks
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Sep 24, 2023 03:47
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There is one last line before tokmak. There are no strategic reserves. Ukraine has one month to get Tokmak. Time will tell. I hope so. Otherwise we are looking at the end of next year for liberation.
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Sep 24, 2023 03:56
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Holy poo poo. The vdv is retreating from the north of Nova Prokoivka due to Ukrianian assaults. AFAIK there was 10K of those troops and other moved into that area to support existing soldiers as basically the last reserves they could commit in the south Could be aninteresting coule of days if thats all true
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Sep 24, 2023 04:07
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:AFAIK there was 10K of those troops and other moved into that area to support existing soldiers as basically the last reserves they could commit in the south Yeah they were expecting to last until the winter. Clearly they haven't of they are retreating from what was going to be their bastion of October. Also Russian peacekeepers had an ammo depot blown up by Azerbaijani terrorists.
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Sep 24, 2023 04:08
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i misread that as "azebaijani tourists" initially and i was like "man a hawaiian shirt means something different over there huh"
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Sep 24, 2023 04:10
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Interestingly Russian telegram channels have published vids from fighting near both Verbove and Novoprokopivka, so I guess that counts as some kind of management of expectations. Links in ISW daily report.
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Sep 24, 2023 04:47
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https://x.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1705786918787494245?s=20 There goes another brigade.
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Sep 24, 2023 04:51
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Yeah that's a new piece of this. Entire units being eliminated to the "last" non injured man. Russia isn't letting any of these guys retrest so the unit is ashed out. Remember Russia is artillerying it's own soldiers who are surrendering. So is it far to say that they might arty retreating soldiers? Or just straight shoot them
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Sep 24, 2023 04:59
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"The situation is difficult."
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Sep 24, 2023 05:04
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