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infernal machines posted:there was a poster in canpol, back when the information about freeland's grandfather came out (years back), who insisted that no one in the thread would have made a different choice, and that he was coerced into owning and running the formerly jewish printing press, and naturally had to print nazi propaganda lol i remember that but i don't remember the names. thread got wild for a bit trying to suss out how culpable in the holocaust you are if you edit a pro-nazi newspaper Dreylad has issued a correction as of 20:10 on Sep 25, 2023 |
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm curious if the Legion is going to say anything. the legion seems to be largely the children of ww2 vets at this point and in my experience it's largely people who are fine with people waving the flag of the genocidal nation that tried to kill their parents (and killed some of my relatives) in downtown ottawa because their politics of reaction happen to coincide. it's awesome.
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You can start reading on this page if you want to relive great moments in CanPol history, including Helsing making predictions about Ukraine, and a poster who I'd rather not be confused for debating the finer points of wartime publishing.
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Oh my god how are you people still babbling on about this Freeland/Ukraine/Grandpa poo poo? In what actual way does this matter with respect to national politics?
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lot of incredible posts
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eXXon posted:You can start reading on this page if you want to relive great moments in CanPol history, including Helsing making predictions about Ukraine, and a poster who I'd rather not be confused for debating the finer points of wartime publishing. lol rust is always there when there are nazis to be defended
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it helped get us into a war against a country we share a border with edit: re: why this is relevant to national politics edit2: dammit I got syqed
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I'm glad former Ukrainian SS members have a safe place to heal from the trauma of their heroic wartime service. I'm adding a Slava to my next land acknowledgement
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https://twitter.com/stephen_taylor/status/1706050083626598715
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StealthArcher posted:"Why don't the principles of the Roman Republic work anymore?" Lmao at PP trying to score points over this whole thing like he didn't clap right along Trudeau tricked us into supporting a Nazi 
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I'm glad this happened. it's funny to me
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Karach posted:I'd say the ad is part of a larger pattern of chud dogwhistling. Those darn entitled Natives, not wanting to get murdered, or, when they're murdered, to get justice for it. Justice is just too darn expensive (for them). We also can't afford to let our brave cops get doodoo and peepee on their boots looking for bodies ("health and safety"). Is this their regular colors or is this Ukrainian pandering?
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quote:In posts to the blog dated 2011 and 2010, Hunka describes 1941 to 1943 as the happiest years of his life and compares the veterans of his unit, who were scattered across the world, to Jews. So how can be antisemitic? Some of his best friends were (like) Jews
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Karach posted:My inlaws have Ukrainian roots and I've definitely heard the line from that side of the family about their ancestors having "no choice" but to volunteer for the Nazis. https://www.history.co.uk/article/lyudmila-pavlichenko-lady-death-historys-deadliest-female-sniper quote:Born in present-day Ukraine in 1916, Lyudmila Pavlichenko fought for the Red Army during WW2 and became the deadliest female sniper in history. Known as ‘Lady Death’, her name struck fear into the hearts of German soldiers. Her reputation on the frontline was warranted with 309 confirmed kills to her name, racked up in just a matter of months - a number placing her amongst the greatest snipers of all time. Let's honor this Ukrainian WWII vet 
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Best Friends posted:Oh my god how are you people still babbling on about this Freeland/Ukraine/Grandpa poo poo? In what actual way does this matter with respect to national politics? SYQ
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PhilippAchtel posted:Is this their regular colors or is this Ukrainian pandering? I had been wondering about this myself. They've been using the colour scheme pretty consistently through the campaign. It's not like there are are any points to be scored by invoking the Ukraine war, though - Canadians of all political stripes either tepidly support this bloodbath or have forgotten there's even a war going on. A quick look through the wayback machine shows that they mostly used blue and white up until the current campaign.
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Best Friends posted:Oh my god how are you people still babbling on about this Freeland/Ukraine/Grandpa poo poo? In what actual way does this matter with respect to national politics? lmao, quality
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eXXon posted:You can start reading on this page if you want to relive great moments in CanPol history, including Helsing making predictions about Ukraine, and a poster who I'd rather not be confused for debating the finer points of wartime publishing. oh, lmao. yeah that makes perfect sense now that i see who posted it
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Best Friends posted:Oh my god how are you people still babbling on about this Freeland/Ukraine/Grandpa poo poo? In what actual way does this matter with respect to national politics? like, our nation? idk, the deputy prime minister's stated political influences might have some kind of bearing
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PhilippAchtel posted:Is this their regular colors or is this Ukrainian pandering? It's Ukraine pandering
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Lol Rust. That decides it, SPR should be freed. Also lolling remembering the good old days of 2017 when the media was still allowed to point out Azov are Nazis without getting disappeared
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DaysBefore posted:SPR should be freed. nah
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infernal machines posted:like, our nation? Owned by 6 year old syq that someone already noticed and stealth edited recognition of... for shame.
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I don’t usually syq but Jesus Christ. it’s like a post from sept 10 2001 saying that the twin towers will always be safe.
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eXXon posted:You can start reading on this page if you want to relive great moments in CanPol history, including Helsing making predictions about Ukraine, and a poster who I'd rather not be confused for debating the finer points of wartime publishing. Helsing posted:Russia is going to gobble up chunks of eastern Ukraine and then, once the war in the Donbass winds down, the IMF and EU are going to oversee the economic collapse of whats left of the country in order to recollect all the loans they've advanced to the dysfunctional government in Kiev. well then! lmfao
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eXXon posted:Owned by 6 year old syq that someone already noticed and stealth edited recognition of... for shame. what? e: pretend i'm your boomer uncle and i have no idea what the gently caress any of this means infernal machines has issued a correction as of 22:47 on Sep 25, 2023 |
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infernal machines posted:what? The post you replied to, by Best Friends, is copypasted from that old thread I linked (it's on the following page). pokeyman was also caught by this. Though to be fair, that same sentiment was repeated basically every time Freeland's Nazi grandpa came up after that.
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eXXon posted:The post you replied to, by Best Friends, is copypasted from that old thread I linked (it's on the following page). pokeyman was also caught by this. Wasn’t the official government response last year “it’s true but noticing it is Russian disinformation”? I swear they put out a statement like that.
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lmao Frosted Flake posted:Wasn’t the official government response last year “it’s true but noticing it is Russian disinformation”? yeah pretty much
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Frosted Flake posted:Wasn’t the official government response last year “it’s true but noticing it is Russian disinformation”? we cannot risk emboldening the enemy by admitting our faults. the time for truth and reconciliation is later
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Frosted Flake posted:Wasn’t the official government response last year “it’s true but noticing it is Russian disinformation”? Basically. And it was true that the story got amplified by Russian-affiliated media to make Freeland look bad, but people went too far in calling it disinformation, or outright lies given that Freeland gave the academic who wrote about this stuff access to her grandfather's papers.
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Dreylad posted:Basically. And it was true that the story got amplified by Russian-affiliated media to make Freeland look bad, but people went too far in calling it disinformation, or outright lies given that Freeland gave the academic who wrote about this stuff access to her grandfather's papers. iirc he was her uncle too lol
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infernal machines posted:we cannot risk emboldening the enemy by admitting our faults. the time for truth and reconciliation is later well yeah it's in five days
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yellowcar posted:iirc he was her uncle too lol he married into the family, the Nazi grandpa was Himka's father-in-law
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infernal machines posted:we cannot risk emboldening the enemy by admitting our faults. the time for truth and reconciliation is later i thought that time was saturday? e:f;b
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i remember thinking the CanPol dogpile on Helsing for being exactly correct was insane, and i even kept a lot of those links for reference later, but i forgot he called the Ukraine War blow-for-blow a half-decade in advance. goddamn
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Yeah reading through it is wild, I think there are a few things that are off but it's a pretty prescient read of Eastern European politics at the time. i hope helsing is okay and wish he'd come back and post Dreylad has issued a correction as of 03:06 on Sep 26, 2023 |
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Frame itHelsing posted:If someone tells me their biggest political influence was a literal Nazi collaborator who directly participated in the holocaust then that changes how I look at them. I'm sorry if actual moral outrage is somehow passe in a thread that mostly consists of people saying we should execute all rurals and behead anyone in a Ford F-150. Honestly, if this were a Conservative politician I bet the thread would be losing its collective poo poo but that's just my speculation.
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