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Dial A For Awesome
May 23, 2009

Boxturret posted:

But the documentary Monopoly says that if there's a bank error in my favour I get to keep the money:confused:

You have won second prize in a beauty contest. Here's $20 a poorly drawn monkey picture.

PS. Hey handsome - you need to open an account at my shady exchange to collect your prize.

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Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

ranbo das posted:

I think people are confusing the fake check scam with how bank accounts work. Bank accounts are a pool of money except in very specific niche circumstances, and there would be $500 left (minus overdraft fees) in this situation. If you got a mystery deposit $1m as long as you kept your balance above $1m you'd be fine when the charges were reversed. The alternative would be some wild FIFO madness. Maybe it's a British thing or something where they do their bank accounts different?

No this is right, that goon is just bad at maths.

And I’ve watched more gay porn in my life than you all combined don’t you DARE slander my gay porn watching capabilities, I watch SO MUCH gay porn god drat it

Lammasu
May 8, 2019

lawful Good Monster
If I suddenly found 10 million dollars in my bank account, I'd be terrified it was like organized crime money.

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

Lammasu posted:

If I suddenly found 10 million dollars in my bank account, I'd be terrified it was like organized crime money.

and if it was tied to bitcoin, be extra terrified that it was disorganised crime money

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/25/hackers-steal-200-million-from-crypto-company-mixin/
"hacked" aka "purpose built backdoored"

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
Its my theory that no bitcoin has ever been stolen buy an actual hack, its all backdoors all the way down. There's the odd time where a hacker poking around manages to find the back door and use it before the owner wanted to, but its still all by design.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Boxturret posted:

Its my theory that no bitcoin has ever been stolen buy an actual hack, its all backdoors all the way down. There's the odd time where a hacker poking around manages to find the back door and use it before the owner wanted to, but its still all by design.

80% of the time it's a frontdoor.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Last night a new Dan Harmon show called Krapopolis premiered on Fox. It's an NFT cartoon. NFT holders get to vote on elements of the show and all that dumb bullshit.

Fox has proudly announced that Episode 1 is the highest-watched comedy telecast of 2023 so far with 3.6 million first day viewers:
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/krapopolis-premiere-ratings-viewers-1235734456/

The thing they're not proudly announcing is that the second episode aired immediately after the first and literally 50% of viewers did not stick around for the second episode, which had 1.8 million viewers.

The official subreddit, /r/Krapopolis/, has 207 subscribers and managed a whopping 23 comments and 11 upvotes for the first episode discussion thread. The second episode discussion thread has 3 comments.

The NFTs cost about $150 each. Of the 10,000+ NFTs (called Krap Chickens) in the collection, approximately 3000 of them were minted, with around 1350 unique owners.

:allears:

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Sep 26, 2023

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Jakabite posted:

No this is right, that goon is just bad at maths.

And I’ve watched more gay porn in my life than you all combined don’t you DARE slander my gay porn watching capabilities, I watch SO MUCH gay porn god drat it

say, how are you so knowledgeable about banking? Is it because of all the Capital Under Management stored in your Asset Secured Services?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

deep dish peat moss posted:

Last night a new Dan Harmon show called Krapopolis premiered on Fox. It's an NFT cartoon. NFT holders get to vote on elements of the show and all that dumb bullshit.

Fox has proudly announced that Episode 1 is the highest-watched comedy telecast of 2023 so far with 3.6 million first day viewers:
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/krapopolis-premiere-ratings-viewers-1235734456/

The thing they're not proudly announcing is that the second episode aired immediately after the first and literally 50% of viewers did not stick around for the second episode, which had 1.8 million viewers.

The official subreddit, /r/Krapopolis/, has 207 subscribers and managed a whopping 23 comments and 11 upvotes for the first episode discussion thread. The second episode discussion thread has 3 comments.

The NFTs cost about $150 each. Of the 10,000+ NFTs (called Krap Chickens) in the collection, approximately 3000 of them were minted, with around 1350 unique owners.

:allears:

gently caress's sake

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
Wonder where that fits into the story circle

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

deep dish peat moss posted:

Last night a new Dan Harmon show called Krapopolis premiered on Fox. It's an NFT cartoon. NFT holders get to vote on elements of the show and all that dumb bullshit.

Fox has proudly announced that Episode 1 is the highest-watched comedy telecast of 2023 so far with 3.6 million first day viewers:
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/krapopolis-premiere-ratings-viewers-1235734456/

The thing they're not proudly announcing is that the second episode aired immediately after the first and literally 50% of viewers did not stick around for the second episode, which had 1.8 million viewers.

The official subreddit, /r/Krapopolis/, has 207 subscribers and managed a whopping 23 comments and 11 upvotes for the first episode discussion thread. The second episode discussion thread has 3 comments.

The NFTs cost about $150 each. Of the 10,000+ NFTs (called Krap Chickens) in the collection, approximately 3000 of them were minted, with around 1350 unique owners.

:allears:

I watched the first episode without realizing it was an NFT thing. Most shows have a shaky first episode or two but are worth sticking out to see if they improve. This is not one of those. It's just bad.

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007

have you considered that the nft holders could just vote for the show to be good instead

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Sometimes I scroll too far on a streaming service and end up in a category of utterly undifferentiable adult-targeted cartoons from the last 10-ish years that I have never loving heard of.

This would be another in that category but I actually saw a commercial for it once, in a bar, so I guess I have heard of it.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

say, how are you so knowledgeable about banking? Is it because of all the Capital Under Management stored in your Asset Secured Services?

That’s actually coincidental, I keep that there recreationally

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

ranbo das posted:

I think people are confusing the fake check scam with how bank accounts work. Bank accounts are a pool of money except in very specific niche circumstances, and there would be $500 left (minus overdraft fees) in this situation. If you got a mystery deposit $1m as long as you kept your balance above $1m you'd be fine when the charges were reversed. The alternative would be some wild FIFO madness. Maybe it's a British thing or something where they do their bank accounts different?

Nah, it's just the same as everywhere, but as we own most of the banks we get subjected to new scams first. People are fairly savvy for the most part, but on a million scale there will always be few people who get suckered.

Account for the bills.
Account for living.
Account for "who know what".
If you are lucky and have something left over? Account for retirement.

Strictly in that order.

Those "oopsie we our money in your account" scams are spear fishing bastards that target pensioners, and should be shot.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

Jakabite posted:

So there’s a PP Show at 4pm ET today that they all think is going to prove they’re right (the BBBY people that is). Looking forward to the fallout!

Boxturret posted:

What's the PP show again?

Shroud posted:

Go to Twitter's new video site, (xvideos.com, because of the name change), and just type in PP show in the search bar. There's a lot of junk, but you'll find it in no time.

cruft posted:

Ha ha. NSFW this, jerk.


lol

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
Just saw people I know regurgitating "Blockchain helps" despite "does this even need a Blockchain"?

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitcoin-blockchain-is-fighting-fraud-in-guatemalas-presidential-elections


article posted:

Bitcoin is helping secure the truthfulness of Guatemala’s election results.

Thanks to OpenTimestamps, a tool created by bitcoin developer Peter Todd a few years ago, Guatemalan tech startup Simple Proof is able to safeguard key documents about the country’s presidential elections from fraud and tampering. Todd’s tool, which leverages hash functions and the bitcoin blockchain, is able to timestamp pieces of information and make it easier to spot attempts at fraud and manipulation.

The idea of timestamping documents is fairly old. Individuals and societies have relied on this technique for centuries to indicate when a document was signed, when a cheque was written, or when someone was born. Cryptographic timestamps, however, are much newer.

Apparently hallucinating garbage, cryptographic timestamping in say 1900BCE or the enigma machines is "much newer"

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Leveraging modern digital technology, such as Electronic Mail™

Aramis
Sep 22, 2009



notwithoutmyanus posted:

Just saw people I know regurgitating "Blockchain helps" despite "does this even need a Blockchain"?

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitcoin-blockchain-is-fighting-fraud-in-guatemalas-presidential-elections

Apparently hallucinating garbage, cryptographic timestamping in say 1900BCE or the enigma machines is "much newer"

LMAO, this is just shouting the hashes of documents real loud with dozens of unnecessary steps added for the sake of bitcoinifying the process.

edit: https://petertodd.org/2016/opentimestamps-announcement#public-calendars Of course they also do the classic "Blockchain sucks rear end, so we operate trustworthy intermediary servers".

Aramis fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Sep 26, 2023

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

Paladinus posted:

Leveraging modern digital technology, such as Electronic Mail™

Bitcoin makes use of this amazing system wherein electrical pulses are sent down a conductive wire! Its quite new.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Paladinus posted:

Leveraging modern digital technology, such as Electronic Mail™
But Electronic Mail with cryptography is good and underutilized.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
remember when coiners re invented morse code but worst, and ham radio but worse for how they would get a coin network up and running in their real life fallout fanfics?

they would totally be masters in the wasteland and not just another dead body.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

PhazonLink posted:

remember when coiners re invented morse code but worst, and ham radio but worse for how they would get a coin network up and running in their real life fallout fanfics?

they would totally be masters in the wasteland and not just another dead body.

Sir I will offer you .005 BTC for that tin of potted meat.

*GETS STABBED AND EATEN*

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
See? Sucks to be that guy. But still a secure system! You should do it because *checks notes* government. (sombre music).


Seriously I have no idea why people want to be involved in a system that directly funds north korea and Russia, but here we are.

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!
The Loch Ness Monster is more real than the value of NFTs and all cryptocurrencies combined

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
GMERICA!!!!!

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Apparently today’s peepee show made the peepee guy like $15k. Jesus christ why did my parents have to raise me with morals and integrity I could be making so much money off these dipshits!

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

Isn't there some suspicion that streaming services wildly inflate their viewership across the board? I am highly skeptical that a premier of some dumbass nft show is topping any charts.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
What's the scam? Tell the rubes to buy penny stocks so the price goes up just long enough for him to sell slightly higher? if so that seems maybe illegal

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


deep dish peat moss posted:

Last night a new Dan Harmon show called Krapopolis premiered on Fox. It's an NFT cartoon. NFT holders get to vote on elements of the show and all that dumb bullshit.

Fox has proudly announced that Episode 1 is the highest-watched comedy telecast of 2023 so far with 3.6 million first day viewers:
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/krapopolis-premiere-ratings-viewers-1235734456/

The thing they're not proudly announcing is that the second episode aired immediately after the first and literally 50% of viewers did not stick around for the second episode, which had 1.8 million viewers.

The official subreddit, /r/Krapopolis/, has 207 subscribers and managed a whopping 23 comments and 11 upvotes for the first episode discussion thread. The second episode discussion thread has 3 comments.

The NFTs cost about $150 each. Of the 10,000+ NFTs (called Krap Chickens) in the collection, approximately 3000 of them were minted, with around 1350 unique owners.

:allears:

Fox have been heavily pushing this show on their NFL broadcasts for weeks and I'm sure the numbers got a nice boost from it being on immediately after the games.

I realise that ad spots (especially football ones) are always going to push the dumbest parts of a show but it looked absolutely dire. Richard Ayoade and Matt Berry deserve better.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

SettingSun posted:

Isn't there some suspicion that streaming services wildly inflate their viewership across the board? I am highly skeptical that a premier of some dumbass nft show is topping any charts.

One of the big points of the strikes is that streaming services are variously insisting they have no idea how many views their shows get (an obvious lie) or must keep it super duper secret except to their shareholders, to screw writers and actors out of residuals.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


It's on Fox and uses the age-old trick of airing after the football because people will leave their TV on

Mr Lanternfly
Jun 26, 2023

tango alpha delta posted:

The Loch Ness Monster is more real than the value of NFTs and all cryptocurrencies combined

Honestly, if you count the amount of tourism the myth generates for the local economy, it probably does. Bitcoin and NFT's are a net drain if you exclude the profit from outright theft that they're primarily designed to enable. Not to mention the energy costs.

Koburn
Oct 8, 2004

FIND THE JUDGE CHILD OR YOUR CITY DIES
Grimey Drawer
The 15k figure was from donations



This was a very special episode of the PP show featuring the always desperate for attention failson Pulte and criminally insane Kais.

Jean-Paul Shartre
Jan 16, 2015

this sentence no verb


“You misled all of us. Here’s a hundred dollars so you read my message about how you misled all of us. “

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Mercury_Storm posted:

What's the scam? Tell the rubes to buy penny stocks so the price goes up just long enough for him to sell slightly higher? if so that seems maybe illegal

The apes want to hear people affirm their beliefs, and this PP guy does so on stream and also creates an environment in the stream + his subreddit where only belief-affirming speech is allowed, so they clap and give him money. He claims to be way into BBBY but never actually shows how much he has invested, and I guarantee that on the off chance he has invested more than a pittance it is still less than 1% of what he makes with the stream.

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!

rydiafan posted:

I don't understand.

If I have $1000 in my account, then get sent an erroneous $Million, spend $500, then the $Million is taken away, won't I have $500?

Okay, so this claytons thing - what it did was establish the rule that accounts are first in, first out:
imagine a pipe that's exactly 10 golf balls long. If you put a new ball in, one of the existing ones pops out. You still have 10 balls in the pipe, but one of them is the new one, not the one you started with. You spent/transferred that one.

Ed: okay, this is neat, there's researchers doing Claytons on stolen Bitcoin:
https://www.wired.com/story/bitcoin-blockchain-fifo-dirty-coins/

quote:

When the researchers tried out their FIFO analysis on Bitcoin's actual blockchain, they found that in massive thefts—like the 2012 heist that took 46,653 bitcoins from the cloud provider Linode, or the 2014 theft of 896 bitcoins from bitcoin "bank" Flexcoin—they could create far tidier answers about where those stolen coins ended up than the haircut method could. Using the FIFO method, they linked the Linode haul to fractions of tainted bitcoins at around 372,000 addresses, compared with 2.7 million tainted bitcoins with the haircut method. (The latter number would mean a single theft had tainted nearly 5 perceent of the whole blockchain, the researchers point out.) For the Flexcoin attack, they traced fractions of the stolen coins to just 18,000 accounts, compared with 1.4 million using the haircut system.
:lol:

Kerbtree fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Sep 26, 2023

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Kerbtree posted:

Okay, so this claytons thing - what it did was establish the rule that accounts are first in, first out:
imagine a pipe that's exactly 10 golf balls long. If you put a new ball in, one of the existing ones pops out. You still have 10 balls in the pipe, but one of them is the new one, not the one you started with. You spent/transferred that one.

so are you saying they are on the edge of a cliff

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Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!

Ghost Leviathan posted:

so are you saying they are on the edge of a cliff

Yes, but I'm not going to start asking customers if they've got stairs in their house.

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