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Seemlar posted:He really is a lot like Gladys when you put it that way Except for the part where other than the corruption Andrews was great and Gladys was uniformly poo poo?
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Synthbuttrange posted:what the hell is slug gate well, you're in for a treat. check out the totally not unhinged website http://sluggate.com.au/ to learn more.
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Sep 26, 2023 08:05
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bucky you should buy a domain and get on sluggate level.
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Sep 26, 2023 08:13
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I always thought he should have leaned in to the Chairman Dan thing to be honest....
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Every time I drive under skyrail I'll think of him. Pity we'll never see the outer loop done, is the Heir Apparent the roads minister?
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I remember the song that the cookers used to sing about him. No more Dan Andrews No more Daniel Andrews No more Dan Andrews Before I be a slave I'll be buried in my grave And go home to my lord and be free.
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Comstar posted:Every time I drive under skyrail I'll think of him. it'll get done, at least to box hill, which is magnificent political gamemanship, it ends right before doncaster, and bulleen (last lib refuge in eastern melbourne) meaning support will be incredibly high in two elections time when stage 1 is nearing completion and stage 2 would have to be approved, making it very hard for the libs to kill off without upsetting their remaining base. Dan was always going to step down (heh) this term and hand it over to Jacinta to let her get some time in the top job before the next election. 3 years is the same amount of time Brumby got after Bracks resigned, although he lost an election by 1 seat. Jacinta will have a dozen ribbon cutting ceremonies before the next election for hospitals, schools, the metro tunnel and westgate tunnel along with a dozen new train stations. She was also in charge of the big build program for a few years so will no doubt keep that rolling where the budget allows it.
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Comstar posted:Every time I drive under skyrail I'll think of him. Jacinta Allan? yes.
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Synthbuttrange posted:what the hell is slug gate my pants zipper
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Also don't bother catching up on Warren Mundine's press club address, it's the same baseless shite that the no campaign loves to trot out at every opportunity.
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Recoome posted:Also don't bother catching up on Warren Mundine's press club address, it's the same baseless shite that the no campaign loves to trot out at every opportunity. with an absolutely bizarre aside to Chapelle thrown in for good measure
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hambeet posted:Jacinta Allan? yes. If she lasts the same length of time it will be her honor to announce the tolls on the eastern freeway. Not sure what other tunnels she can dig. Still a lot of rail crossings to remove. Can’t think she’ll be cutting ribbons on bike paths though.
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Looking at the actual voice changes, it seems like a lot of weird effort being put in from both sides to make sure an indigenous committee gets set up and can provide advice to govt but be otherwise fairly toothless? Am I reading the changes right or is there a hidden paragraph about death squads somewhere?
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Recoome posted:Dictator Comrade Danandrews “The Bat Man” Andrews, who single handedly chained the border shut, has left the building 
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Synthbuttrange posted:Looking at the actual voice changes, it seems like a lot of weird effort being put in from both sides to make sure an indigenous committee gets set up and can provide advice to govt but be otherwise fairly toothless? Am I reading the changes right or is there a hidden paragraph about death squads somewhere? You can get informed here https://www.riotinto.com/en/news/trending-topics/voice-to-parliament
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What corruption lol every time they've tried to catch him for something it's been nothing?
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Synthbuttrange posted:Looking at the actual voice changes, it seems like a lot of weird effort being put in from both sides to make sure an indigenous committee gets set up and can provide advice to govt but be otherwise fairly toothless? Am I reading the changes right or is there a hidden paragraph about death squads somewhere? it's a weird toothless proposal because it came out of noel pearson working with some conservative legal figures to figure out a constitutional amendment that would do Something more than just symbolic recognition but be able to get bipartisan support and therefore have a decent chance of passing. it then took on a life of its own via the process leading up to the uluru statement but also completely failed to get bipartisan support
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lih posted:it's a weird toothless proposal because it came out of noel pearson working with some conservative legal figures to figure out a constitutional amendment that would do Something more than just symbolic recognition but be able to get bipartisan support and therefore have a decent chance of passing. it then took on a life of its own via the process leading up to the uluru statement but also completely failed to get bipartisan support Also it's still just symbolic.
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Synthbuttrange posted:what the hell is slug gate tiny toll gates for slugs, its despicable really giant bear?
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Non Compos Mentis posted:giant bear? Polar bears are only in the Arctic circle, not Antarctica. The editor or writer who posted it is like "Antarctica? Oh yeah, with the snow and polar bears and penguins, and stuff", for people who can't remember or don't care about major continents. TheMostFrench fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Sep 26, 2023 |
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arctic circle = bear circle antarctic circle = not bear circle
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Bald Stalin posted:Also it's still just symbolic. Megan Davis has written at length how there needs to be a level of creativity in treaty making which the Voice is but one component, amongst other things. Right now, the listening to First Nations people by the powers that be are toothless. I’d raise the words of Yunupingu when he said “They do not listen because they do not have to”. Having a constitutionally enshrined voice means they in some form, the Coalition can’t just blow it away completely on a whim, which is the fate of many other representative bodies. Symbols have power - it’s the flags we wield and the days we wield them. What’s the point of changing the date? January 26 is just symbolic right? What about the colonial symbols on our flags? Would changing it even matter if it’s just symbolic? Maybe read some of your theory around how capital cloaks itself in the symbols of authority and righteousness.
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Recoome posted:Megan Davis has written at length how there needs to be a level of creativity in treaty making which the Voice is but one component, amongst other things. This is broadly my view It may be largely symbolic but if we're forced to choose between a positive symbol and a negative one it seems obvious
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lih posted:it's a weird toothless proposal because it came out of noel pearson working with some conservative legal figures to figure out a constitutional amendment that would do Something more than just symbolic recognition but be able to get bipartisan support and therefore have a decent chance of passing. it then took on a life of its own via the process leading up to the uluru statement but also completely failed to get bipartisan support It had bipartisan support, this is the thing that also gets lost in the noise. What we are seeing from the Coalition is nothing more than partisan politics and another grab at winning the culture war. If the Coalition/Dutton was so concerned about First Nations rights, they'd have listened to them while they were in government rather than funding non indigenous organisations over community support because communities can't slap together as slick of a slide deck.
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Recoome posted:It had bipartisan support, this is the thing that also gets lost in the noise. it never did, actually. turnbull immediately rejected it as pm, and then morrison avoided the idea as much as possible, only coming up with a vague plan to legislate it but not have a referendum.
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Recoome posted:Dictator Comrade Danandrews “The Bat Man” Andrews, who single handedly chained the border shut, has left the building
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Recoome posted:What we are seeing from the Coalition is nothing more than partisan politics and another grab at winning the culture war. If the Coalition/Dutton was so concerned about First Nations rights, they'd have listened to them while they were in government rather than funding non indigenous organisations over community support because communities aren't their mates from private school FTFY
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Recoome posted:What we are seeing from the Coalition is nothing more than partisan politics and another grab at winning the culture war. The problem is that the Coalition is only a part of what we're seeing, and not even a particularly big one, and we're making a mistake if we continue to ignore that. From platforms like Rebel News to Craig Kelly to Twitter accounts like Alexandra Marshall, there are plenty of ways to push narratives to persuade people to vote no. Cos yeah, this is a culture war, and you don't need to register a political party and win office to to put propaganda on telegram.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:The problem is that the Coalition is only a part of what we're seeing, and not even a particularly big one, and we're making a mistake if we continue to ignore that. ellymelly is the most powerful mind on twitter and ITT we stan a queen
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Bald Stalin posted:Also it's still just symbolic. And as we all know, nothing should ever be done for symbolic reasons alone. Symbolism itself has no meaning in the discourse nor the views of the public. What do you mean overton window?
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Any sort of symbolism in parliament is bad! Also in parliament: https://peo.gov.au/understand-our-p...secular-nation/
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dont forget the mace that you arent even allowed to hit senators with
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RIP Dictator Dan. He benefitted so so much from the fact that the Vic/ Libs are quite arguably the worst opposition in the country. And still bear the stain of Jeff "loving" Kennett. I wonder who the next leader will be and how they'll handle it. Coz whilst the VicLibs will still be poo poo, I reckon your SkyNews and Herald Sun types won't have quite the same victriol and unhinged hate for the new person. Hopefully condemning the posh fascist cunts to longer in the wilderness.
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BrigadierSensible posted:I reckon your SkyNews and Herald Sun types won't have quite the same victriol and unhinged hate for the new person. anyone who wasn't the literal face of the lockdowns will have a significant advantage, but that won't stop those types from trying. Anyway new chanting street gangs just dropped: https://x.com/WhiteRoseSocAU/status/1706845281441181904?s=20
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BrigadierSensible posted:Coz whilst the VicLibs will still be poo poo, I reckon your SkyNews and Herald Sun types won't have quite the same victriol and unhinged hate for the new person. Hopefully condemning the posh fascist cunts to longer in the wilderness. it'll just take a little while to spin up the Hate Machines again, we'll return to normalism soon enough
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