Diablo IV SEASON 4: dads eatin good

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flashman: Dec 16, 2003

They spent too much time on the stupid campaign lol

# ? Sep 26, 2023 04:20

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# ? May 25, 2024 19:42

rydiafan: Mar 17, 2009

In fairness, it's probably the best campaign a Diablo game has ever had.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 04:41

AreWeDrunkYet: Jul 8, 2006

That's Diablo 1 erasure

# ? Sep 26, 2023 04:44

Kaysette: Jan 5, 2009; ~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

I�ll probably replay the campaign for s2 launch. It was pretty fun.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 04:46

harrygomm: Oct 19, 2004; can u run n jump?

doing it once for SC and once for HC was enough for me. was that something that ever got changed? normally progress between SC/HC are totally separate but campaign progress i could see changing

# ? Sep 26, 2023 07:39

pseudanonymous: Aug 30, 2008; When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

What parts of Diablo 4 qualify it as Early Access?

Crafting, NMDs, affixes, enchanting, in game events, horses, world leveling, loot control, ui issues, paragon & skill resets, quest finding, renown, gems, resistances lol, Uber uniques

# ? Sep 26, 2023 08:17

Vic: Nov 26, 2009; malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

https://www.eurogamer.net/diablo-4-development-plagued-by-chaos-and-mismanagement-claims-new-report posted:

As a result of its development upheaval, Diablo 4 is said to have seen multiple internal, unannounced release dates over the years, with Activision at one point floating 2021 as a release goal. That reportedly shifted to December 2022 following the game's reveal at BlizzCon 2019, but developers are said to have "appealed for more time to avoid massive cuts to the game". That lead to a revised release goal of April 2023, but the team "felt it still needed more time", whereupon launch was reportedly shifted to 6th June next year.

"We're at the point where they're not willing to delay the game anymore," one current Blizzard Albany employee told the Post. "So we all just have to go along and figure out how much we're willing to hurt ourselves to make sure the game gets released in a good enough state."

[...]
Unsurprisingly, employees the publication spoke to say Diablo 4's strained development process could impact both the quality of the game - some believe it will be "fun" while others describe it as "mediocre but passable" - and employee health.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 08:30

VOTE1: Aug 23, 2007

Calling something early access because you don�t like it feels like something they should be confined to chat windows of twitch streamers.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 08:42

Vic: Nov 26, 2009; malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

It's not early access, it's good bones.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 08:51

Doomykins: Jun 28, 2008; Didn't you mean to ask about flowers?

Diablo 4 isn't early access, there's just near universal consensus that a year after release it might be as good as other ten year old arpgs.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 10:28

Mr. Pickles: Mar 19, 2014

Game sure could use rotating camera angle in tyool 2023

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:19

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

There's probably a bunch of things in the game that would have gaps and unfinished surfaces if you looked at them from any other angle.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:22

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Mr. Pickles posted:

Game sure could use rotating camera angle in tyool 2023

Absolutely loving not

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:26

flashman: Dec 16, 2003

A zoom out tho

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:29

Mr. Pickles: Mar 19, 2014

Bobby Deluxe posted:

There's probably a bunch of things in the game that would have gaps and unfinished surfaces if you looked at them from any other angle.

They would have to like.. create 3d models for stuff *GASP*

Tiny Timbs posted:

Absolutely loving not

I am sorry old person, progress cannot wait for you anymore

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:34

Mr. Pickles: Mar 19, 2014

flashman posted:

A zoom out tho

This would devalue our prized cosmetics paid for from our children's college fund and health insurance savings BRO

No, I want to see my excellent divine bracers from all angles but NO ZOOM OUT!!!!

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:36

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Mr. Pickles posted:

They would have to like.. create 3d models for stuff *GASP*

And those prefabs are only tidied up and made to look nice from one angle. Like how the only time you're allowed to look up at a skybox is in a few, very limited static vistas.

We are never getting a rotating camera.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:44

Tonetta: Jul 9, 2013; look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

flashman posted:

A zoom out tho

okay but too many people would potentially be on your screen and all of their stash's will load

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:45

Mr. Pickles: Mar 19, 2014

Tonetta posted:

okay but too many people would potentially be on your screen and all of their stash's will load

Players just want the opportunity to see the monsters from equal distance as the monsters see and attack them. The light radius mechanic is not in the game so how absurd is it that monsters can attack players from miles and miles away but players only see and interact with objects in a few yard radius

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:50

hawowanlawow: Jul 27, 2009

yeah because the game is so difficult currently

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:53

CharlestonJew: Jul 7, 2011; Illegal Hen

Getting 360 noscoped by a corpse bow from offscreen feels bad

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:55

Bisse: Jun 26, 2005

Mr. Pickles posted:

Players just want the opportunity to see the monsters from equal distance as the monsters see and attack them. The light radius mechanic is not in the game so how absurd is it that monsters can attack players from miles and miles away but players only see and interact with objects in a few yard radius

Trying to keep track of what is happening outside your visible area and how the map looks is one of the few skill elements remaining in this game. Do people basically just want Cookie Clicker?

It's like saying you want all FPS'es to turn field of view up to 360 degrees because you just want to see what's happening behind you.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 13:57

Bisse: Jun 26, 2005

CharlestonJew posted:

Getting 360 noscoped by a corpse bow from offscreen feels bad

May I recommend Ninja Gaiden 1 on Xbox. Visions of *being surrounded by 10 explosive-kunai-throwing ninja and developing a continuous-dodging-and-iframes offensive style that dodges perpendicular to the ninjas you can't currently see to avoid the kunai's you have no chance of seeing coming*. What I'm saying is: git gud. What i'm also saying is: a zoomout makes the game a whole ton easier and things offscreen not being allowed to hurt you would be dumb and boring.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 14:01

External Organs: Mar 3, 2006; One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

The most unused feature of the game feels like the open world itself. In other open world games, you see something interesting, you can go poke around there. The Zelda's are the biggest example of this done really well. The camera angle of Diablo 4 obviously makes this a moot point, plus I mean...you're just looking for monsters to beat up, there's nothing more complex than that.

What it does offer is the opportunity for really large scale encounters, and I'm hoping we see stuff like that in the future.

Edit: I'm imagining stuff like, say, descriptions of battle from the end of The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 14:05

Mr. Pickles: Mar 19, 2014

Bisse posted:

Trying to keep track of what is happening outside your visible area and how the map looks is one of the few skill elements remaining in this game. Do people basically just want Cookie Clicker?

It's like saying you want all FPS'es to turn field of view up to 360 degrees because you just want to see what's happening behind you.

In truth all I want is to keep playing the game and the only mode Im willing to pour hours into atm is Hardcore, but I dont wanna play that and die in a cave by almost invisible arrows fired from offscreen

# ? Sep 26, 2023 14:16

Tonetta: Jul 9, 2013; look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Bisse posted:

Trying to keep track of what is happening outside your visible area and how the map looks is one of the few skill elements remaining in this game. Do people basically just want Cookie Clicker?

It's like saying you want all FPS'es to turn field of view up to 360 degrees because you just want to see what's happening behind you.

getting one shot off screen by an untelegraphed ability is actually one of the most unfun things I can think of in any video game, and there's nothing skillful about running past every hallway on the off chance a skeleton archer already fired down it as you turned the corner. this isn't loving tarkov, nor a pvp game, I shouldn't have to tediously check every angle for some poo poo that I can't even see in a game that the power fantasy is that you go into a room and press a button and the whole screen eplodes.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 14:16

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Mr. Pickles posted:

They would have to like.. create 3d models for stuff *GASP*

I am sorry old person, progress cannot wait for you anymore

Play an ARPG where you have to manage camera angles on top of everything else and you�ll live to regret your words

# ? Sep 26, 2023 14:35

bamhand: Apr 15, 2010

harrygomm posted:

i mean that�s probably classifies it as a shorter game, but not really early access though? idk EA games i�ve played have typically been extremely obviously lacking last act/major mechanics/finishing touches like voice acting and cutscenes

i didn�t see any of that here

I mean you can call it whatever you want. It's just longer for people to type out "D4 is not an EA game but it has less content and less thought through design than a game that is literally in EA."

# ? Sep 26, 2023 14:39

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

These are FUN. My pulverise druid has become even more 'hits either do nothing or destroy everything on screen.'

# ? Sep 26, 2023 14:40

hawowanlawow: Jul 27, 2009

Grim Dawn and I think Torchlight have rotatable cameras, and I never use them because they're disorienting and pointless. I actually turned the keybind for it off in GD

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:07

flashman: Dec 16, 2003

Bisse posted:

Trying to keep track of what is happening outside your visible area and how the map looks is one of the few skill elements remaining in this game. Do people basically just want Cookie Clicker?

It's like saying you want all FPS'es to turn field of view up to 360 degrees because you just want to see what's happening behind you.

1/10

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:07

KazigluBey: Oct 30, 2011; boner

"Good bones", which either on purpose or not implies that Acti-Blizz will add the meat later, is just a euphemism for "early access". You'd literally see people say the exact thing about games that aren't fully out on Steam, if they are well regarded enough.

Like, how the hell is D3 beating D4 on Twitch viewership? People are more keen to watch someone else play the XYth season from a game that released over a decade ago instead of the new Acti-Blizz Diablo hotness?

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:08

Kaysette: Jan 5, 2009; ~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

Mr. Pickles posted:

They would have to like.. create 3d models for stuff *GASP*

I am sorry old person, progress cannot wait for you anymore

Bisse posted:

Trying to keep track of what is happening outside your visible area and how the map looks is one of the few skill elements remaining in this game. Do people basically just want Cookie Clicker?

It's like saying you want all FPS'es to turn field of view up to 360 degrees because you just want to see what's happening behind you.

extremely cursed opinions

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:10

Tonetta: Jul 9, 2013; look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

KazigluBey posted:

Like, how the hell is D3 beating D4 on Twitch viewership?

12 million sales with these clown show numbers lol

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:16

Grave Centipede: Apr 19, 2007; "But how can I put my lion's head in the lion's mouth? That act is ruined!"

Mr. Pickles posted:

This would devalue our prized cosmetics paid for from our children's college fund and health insurance savings BRO

No, I want to see my excellent divine bracers from all angles but NO ZOOM OUT!!!!

If anything in the camera should zoom in and pull other players views towards your $25 horse armour.
How would they know what to buy otherwise?

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:25

External Organs: Mar 3, 2006; One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

KazigluBey posted:

Like, how the hell is D3 beating D4 on Twitch viewership? People are more keen to watch someone else play the XYth season from a game that released over a decade ago instead of the new Acti-Blizz Diablo hotness?

New D3 season, old D4 season...?

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:26

CharlestonJew: Jul 7, 2011; Illegal Hen

Bisse posted:

May I recommend Ninja Gaiden 1 on Xbox. Visions of *being surrounded by 10 explosive-kunai-throwing ninja and developing a continuous-dodging-and-iframes offensive style that dodges perpendicular to the ninjas you can't currently see to avoid the kunai's you have no chance of seeing coming*. What I'm saying is: git gud. What i'm also saying is: a zoomout makes the game a whole ton easier and things offscreen not being allowed to hurt you would be dumb and boring.

the guy that made ninja gaiden has games that involve underage girls fighting in skimpy outfits. and blizzard is full of sexual harassers. what I'm saying is: people that like offscreen attacks are sex offenders

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:30

GoGoGadgetChris: Mar 18, 2010; i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

How many hours of D3 Twitch are you knuckleheads watching?

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:35

Kaysette: Jan 5, 2009; ~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

i'm old school and play games myself instead of watching other ppl play them

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:41

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# ? May 25, 2024 19:42

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Even if you like D4 there's nothing really "watchable" about it. In D2 the runs are like 90 seconds tops with the ever so slight chance of epic drops and in D3 things explode at a phenomenal rate at speeds of 3,000 m/h. What's there to do in D4, watch some guy slowly walk from vendor to vendor evaluating if 1.6% increase in vulnerable damage is worth it.

# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:46

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