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I feel like this is an instance where the fans had a better idea of what to do with the characters than the show runners did, which is usually the opposite of this thread
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Perhaps it'll need to settle in a bit? The first season of Frasier could be a bit rough too, with Marty being noticeably more sour than in the rest of the show. Cautiously optimistic.
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Wouldn't an intellectual snob like Frasier know that saying "the hoi polloi" is like saying "the the commoners"? Well, I'm nit picking already, but the whole thing looks pretty uninspired.
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nah he'd just blather about it being idiomatic and not literal usage of an ancient greek term
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Chicken! I believe it was LaRouchefoucauld who said...
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Achmed Jones posted:nah he'd just blather about it being idiomatic and not literal usage of an ancient greek term After Niles calls him out about it.
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fraiser is going to lead his son fredrick into the light of christ
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didn't need to know Frasier smelled emphatically good.
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KoRMaK posted:didn't need to know Frasier smelled emphatically good. He has a proprietary bath blend after all
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For cleaning that HUMONGOUS rear end of his
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pretty sure fraiser smells like terminal alcoholism slathered in a luxurious greek aftershave balm
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The Saucer Hovers posted:fraiser is going to lead his son fredrick into the light of christ Lilith eloped with Brent Spiner and joined the Church of the Jedi, no more Jewish influence in Freddy's life, Frasier found Christ in re-hab. This is a season's worth of plot-line already!
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Rappaport posted:Lilith eloped with Brent Spiner Picturing them together, he's still wearing the Data makeup of course
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Norm! I welcome you into house.
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OHGOAGHHG OIHM SHOIMON OIM EENGLEESH AND OI AM PISH DRUNK OI AM *shits self loudly*
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Cheers cast reunion with inexplicable recastings, and instead of Norm it's Morn
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Craig T Nelson as Coach
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Cheers cast reunion with inexplicable recastings, and instead of Norm it's Morn Use the actors they used for when Diane did her play! Them applauding at Frasier's bluster worthy of Macbeth is a moment that still cracks me up no matter how many times I see it. TheWorldsaStage fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Sep 17, 2023 |
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TheWorldsaStage posted:Use the actors they used for when Diane did her play! Them applauding at Frasier's bluster worthy of McBeth is a moment that still cracks me up no matter how many times I see it. "So, drink hearty, Franklin, and laugh! Because you have made a pact with Beelzebub! And her name ... is Mary Ann!"
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Grassy Knowles posted:Craig T Nelson as Coach
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Dr. Huxtable for can't miss Thursdays.
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the trailer didn't get me excited for new stuff but we did click a random point in season 2 and now we're five episodes deep this stuff was so good. i love marty and all the hot chicks
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The trailer looked fine. It’s going to be tough to capture the show since it’s designed to pack in as many jokes as possible. But it does seem to have some life to it. One of the key aspects of Frasier and Cheers is that they were willing to let scenes have emotions that weren’t just funny. You could have a serious and heart wrenching scene in Cheers, like when Sam says “goodbye, Diane.” If this show is willing to have those moments, it could be fantastic.
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TBH I kind of feel the opposite way, it seems like comedies aren't allowed to just be comedies anymore and are expected to provide moments for clickbait headlines about 10 Times This Show Unexpectedly Gave Us All The Feels. It is important for the show to have some tender moments, but I just feel like that's a given at this point. I'd be far more surprised if it didn't.
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Sometimes I think about why the Simpsons were so much better in the beginning. Part of it was the emotional aspect, there were some moments that held weight in that regard, think of the ending of When Flanders Failed for example. Frasier doesn't have a ton of those moments but there are some. I suppose it isn't really a prerequisite for making something funny, but it definitely elevates the show to another level. Safe money is on the show being bad, I really hope its not, but I think the proof is in the pudding. That they've abandoned the core cast who played such a huge role in making the show great (hopefully thats just a red herring and they just have kept it under wraps- unlikely in todays world of online leaks), thats a big red flag. Then when you think about who Kelsey is as a person, and the absolute stinkers he's attached his name to in recent years. Doesn't fill me with confidence that he or certainly any executives would bother to try and hold this version to any sort of high standard, as long as the money comes. We'll see
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It looks like a perfectly serviceable 90's sitcom. Are sitcoms even a thing anymore? If you asked me to name a single sitcom currently running on network TV I don't think I could.
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The last thing I saw close to a sitcom was Kevin Can F**k Himself, which was more of a dark deconstruction of the premise. The last straight up sitcoms I remember were Fresh of the Boat, and Young Sheldon, which were last decade pre-pandemic. I couldn't name a single post covid sitcom. Just had a look at what NBC is offering because they're sure to have sitcoms. They have Lopez v Lopez, a vanity project for George Lopez and his daughter playing fictionalized versions of themselves. Kenan, a vanity project for Kenan Thompson playing a fictionalized version of himself. And Young Rock, a vanity project for the Rock portraying his childhood. Vanity projects for celebrities where they get to play themselves seem to be where sitcoms are these days. Marenghi fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Sep 18, 2023 |
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Like with a lot of TV the audience is probably exclusively boomers who reliably press the button to see a familiar face make the voice and reinforce all their biases.
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bring back my name is earl you cowards
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GolfHole posted:bring back my name is earl you cowards 
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GolfHole posted:bring back my name is earl you cowards Give me closure dammit. They've rebooted nearly everything else from that era.
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Marenghi posted:Give me closure dammit. They've rebooted nearly everything else from that era. Sorry, the money for that has been earmarked for a remake of Ed 
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Dokapon Findom posted:I feel like this is an instance where the fans had a better idea of what to do with the characters than the show runners did, which is usually the opposite of this thread It should have been Niles and Roz
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Niles Per Hour: Niles finally opens that auto body shop he's secretly had planned
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Dokapon Findom posted:I feel like this is an instance where the fans had a better idea of what to do with the characters than the show runners did, which is usually the opposite of this thread the theme song should have been "flesh is burning"
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nah nah nah nah nah nah
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I don't think My Name Is Earl was ever big enough for streamers to think they could leverage it to draw eyeballs to their platform, but damned if I don't want to see Earl cross the very last thing off his list.
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Marenghi posted:The last thing I saw close to a sitcom was Kevin Can F**k Himself, which was more of a dark deconstruction of the premise. Abbott Elementary is both the best and most popular sitcom running at the moment.
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LividLiquid posted:I don't think My Name Is Earl was ever big enough for streamers to think they could leverage it to draw eyeballs to their platform, but damned if I don't want to see Earl cross the very last thing off his list. Yeah I really enjoyed the show.
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I finally remembered to show my wife that preview and she just said "oh no" at the end.  codo27 posted:Sometimes I think about why the Simpsons were so much better in the beginning. Part of it was the emotional aspect, there were some moments that held weight in that regard, think of the ending of When Flanders Failed for example. Frasier doesn't have a ton of those moments but there are some. I suppose it isn't really a prerequisite for making something funny, but it definitely elevates the show to another level. Mid90s Simpsons, roughly the time Oakley and Weinstein take the reins, moves away from the animated attempt at a dysfunctional family into stories that are less grounded in the family and more exploratory (like Bart selling his soul). I think by 98 or 99 the "classic" run exhausts its novelty and just becomes a series of gags with a loosely pinned on plot at the start like "The Simpsons attend MONSTERtruckfest, but leave quickly when they realize that it's a convention of truck-bros who dress up as classic monsters. On the way home, the family car hits a pothole causing Marge to have to drive recklessly to get to safety. This sparks a new obsession with racing and the rest of the episode is a send-up of Days of Thunder, with Bart having a Fast and the Furious-style B-plot." Once you get to that point, the cast isn't so much characters as paper-thin functions to make jokes happen. But that's kind of the problem with cultural satire-- it works when you're the out-group but time marches on and it's harder to be so biting if you're a literal cultural institution with decades of success. Arguably the first Season of Frasier has the back and forth with Marty at the core-- there's a point where he nearly chucks Marty into a home until they have it out and recognize it won't be smooth sailing but it will be worth it. I think that Frasier's most memorable episodes revolve around the inherent farcical aspects of the show, but they're possible because the characters largely behave in familiar ways that makes the comedy pay off. You also have plenty of stealth feelings episodes, where the brothers' personalities and quibbles are comedic, but in the process lead to something more impactful (Martin feeling sadness at seeing the age of his old horse and in turn lamenting his youth). There's this touch in some really simple scenes, like the mini-arc where one of the Crane boys' absurd coffee orders keeps being slightly off. The episode happens and as we reach a resolution with the characters and events, the barista finally gets the order right.
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