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God I can't win with my group sometimes. "hey you take too long searching." *makes tech with non searchable tri lands because I don't have any fetch lands in the deck* "why aren't you using the better tri lands?" "because Im not using fetch lands?" "why?!" 3 way commander sucks when the other two are always arguing and you're caught in the middle.  Especially when they argue about who I should be bullying and I can't judge the board state at all. So I made a deck that kills them both at the same time 
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Johnny Truant posted:only non-creature spell in my Sliver deck is Flying Crane Technique, because That is also fun, I enjoy having a curveball like that, especially since the last sliver you add is usually not too exciting. Raenir Salazar posted:God I can't win with my group sometimes. It’s tough when your group is like that, but some people (me) just like to complain and cajole friends. If you don’t let it bother you, and try to focus on the fun, you’ll have a better time and often others will lighten up.
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So I finally picked up the last few critical cards for my Imodane deck and got to take it for a spin last weekend. First game was nothing as one guy had a turn 4 infinite mana combo deck. Second game with a different group I got Imodane out T4 and Neheb, the Eternal on T5. Turn 6 I attack into one guy who didn't block, then use the 8 red mana to plop down City on Fire. Tap for 3 and smack another guy's commander with Frantic Firebolt. Since I had a bolt in the bin, his commander takes 9, which then causes Imodane to smack everyone else in the face for 27. Gonna see about balancing it out a little more, but overall I really had a blast with it. 
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Sep 27, 2023 15:48
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Magnetic North posted:As a card carrying Sliver Snob myself, here's the Galaxy Brain meme version of this: Slivers affecting all other slithers would be interesting. I'd like to play a match of commander with that stipulation and the consideration of should you play your sliver if it's gonna buff the others
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Sep 27, 2023 16:10
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Khanstant posted:Slivers affecting all other slithers would be interesting. I'd like to play a match of commander with that stipulation and the consideration of should you play your sliver if it's gonna buff the others The old Slivers affected all other Slivers, not just your own. They changed that later to make it more intuitive for players. A lot of old cards were like that: Elvish Champion and Lord of Atlantis buffed all Elves and Merfolk respectively. Priest of Titania counted all Elves, not just your own.
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Make a new Rofellos that cares about all forests, cowards. E: or make it an enchantment that also references Carpet of Flowers. Carpet of Rofellos (G)(G) At the beginning of your main phase if you haven't added mana with [card name] this turn add green mana equal to the number of Forests. Papa Was A Video Toaster fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Sep 27, 2023 |
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I think I like the idea of an equipment commander deck, but who are good commanders for it, and what does winning with one usually look like? Like throwing 1000 equipments on 1 guy and attacking 1 person at a time with combat damage seems slow and easy to disrupt. Is mono-white viable or do we need red for damage doubling/tripling as well as various Nahris? I feel like Sram would be a good commander, but probably draw hate like crazy, and probably goes in a super fast competitive deck, and I wanna do dumb poo poo like tutoring all 3 Kaldra pieces.
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Sep 27, 2023 18:08
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A Moose posted:I think I like the idea of an equipment commander deck, but who are good commanders for it, and what does winning with one usually look like? Like throwing 1000 equipments on 1 guy and attacking 1 person at a time with combat damage seems slow and easy to disrupt. Is mono-white viable or do we need red for damage doubling/tripling as well as various Nahris? Syr Gwyn knights is fun because it gives you 3 colors to play with.
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Sep 27, 2023 18:12
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I had a pretty fun Bruenor deck. One free equip and +2/+0 for each equipment attached can get out of hand. +4/+0 and double strike for a pair of brass knuckles? Don't mind if I do.
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Sep 27, 2023 18:17
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I have a voltron deck with this guy 
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Sep 27, 2023 18:20
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Aftermath Nahiri is pretty nuts, and Kellan, the Fae-Blooded from WOE is bonkers with living weapon/for mirrodin! strats
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Sep 27, 2023 18:24
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A Moose posted:I think I like the idea of an equipment commander deck, but who are good commanders for it, and what does winning with one usually look like? Like throwing 1000 equipments on 1 guy and attacking 1 person at a time with combat damage seems slow and easy to disrupt. Is mono-white viable or do we need red for damage doubling/tripling as well as various Nahris? I think you'd definitely want to lean on myriad if going for an equipment combat kill.
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I have two equipment decks. One is Nazahn who both tutors but also wants to go wide since every time an equipped creature i control attacks i can tap their best blockers down. Also cat synergy since Biran, Kemba, og Brimaz, etc The other is Shagrat who was forgotten immediately but I still like him  the deck runs all the good amass poo poo, some of the weird niche rakdos color equipment that rarely sees play, and the fact he lets me steal opponents poo poo like greaves, swords, etc can throw people off hard lol
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Sep 27, 2023 18:40
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I run Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist // Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh as partners for an equipment deck. It can be fun but can run out of steam quickly. It does well in my group who often play little interruption battle cruiser decks. Stuff like getting a bunch of bloodforged battle axes or using Ardenn to toss a colossus hammer or two onto my commander is always fun.
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Sep 27, 2023 18:42
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You could also run Kediss instead of Rograhk but that would probably raise your threat level.
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So I’m curious, how many decks do people have that starts as a concept WITHOUT a commander, vs the number of decks that started with the Commander and built from there? I ask because I assume like 90%+ of decks start with the Commander. That’s certainly true of my decks. But now I have three decks that started as concepts, and for which I determined a Commander as part of the building process: Demon Typal, Jeskai Dice-Rolling, and Gruff Octuplets. So I’m wondering how many others do this and build some decks without having the commander in mind at the start.
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I am not really creative and just pick up precons that interest me to gut them out and find old obscure cards to put into them for flavor and jank. And then my competitive side wants to put in redundancy when I focus on defense or offense. And it gets all sorts of hosed. I'm currently staring at like 78 cards (31 in my possession, 37 on a maybe list) on what to realistically put into an Esper knights precon, and I really REALLY enjoy finding obscure poo poo like the North, South, East, West, paladins that can blow up creatures for two colored mana and tapping. Or tap, pay one life and blow up a black creature, using Rogue Class to give em all Menace, or using Promise of Tomorrow to just bounce back from a Wrath. For me it's always finding a commander first that sounds fun and building around that.
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Extra combat steps (of which there are many sources in Boros) work wellKhanstant posted:I think you'd definitely want to lean on myriad if going for an equipment combat kill. Myriad doesn't copy equipment on creatures, hence Stangg, Echo Warrior.
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Sep 27, 2023 19:28
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johnny park posted:I have a voltron deck with this guy Oooh, care to post?
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I mean if you want to use equipment and myriad to kill people the obvious choice would seem to be Godo but while it's not super fast (by modern competitive standards), that also probably goes against "not drawing hate" and wanting to use fun dumb artifacts instead of just winning via a very well-defined line of play another very strong "equipment" commander that comes to mind and which obviously benefits from otherwise janky equipment (while simultaneously probably also failing to meeting the implied criteria) is Slicer A Moose posted:I think I like the idea of an equipment commander deck, but who are good commanders for it, and what does winning with one usually look like? Like throwing 1000 equipments on 1 guy and attacking 1 person at a time with combat damage seems slow and easy to disrupt. Is mono-white viable or do we need red for damage doubling/tripling as well as various Nahris? you'll note both examples above are mono-red, good enough to be and/or have been competitive commanders, and get above around the "one person at a time" limitation by either comboing with equipment or (effectively) getting to attack every turn with their commander (who has an effective ~x2 damage mulitplier due to how commander damage works, something to consider in voltron strategies) loading up one unit to attack once per turn is slower and easier to disrupt and probably won't rise to be on the level of competitive deck, but you can definitely make it strong enough to get people complaining/consistently win or get arch-enemy status against people playing decks falling short of competitive status, the trick is generally a combination of speed and inherent protection/resilience - an example would be something like Light-Paws (where the commander needs to be removed instantly or it will be extremely hard/impossible to interact with and quickly punching one player a turn to death via unblockable commander damage)
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TotalHell posted:So I’m curious, how many decks do people have that starts as a concept WITHOUT a commander, vs the number of decks that started with the Commander and built from there? I've had one or two decks start from me finding a really weird bulk rare in one of my boxes or from a pack from a set that came out while I was taking a year off from mtg, one that doesnt really lend itself to an obvious archetype, and wondering what kind of decks would want it, and then going through the results of a cursory search to see what pops out to me. I wouldn't have my Verazol list if I hadnt pulled a skyclave relic and gone "ok what non-gimbal deck should i put this in" and found that like 60% of Verazol lists run it
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ChiTownEddie posted:Oooh, care to post? I don't have it uploaded anywhere, but basically it's just a bunch of equipment and auras that gives him flying/menace/unblockable/etc. plus lots of white instants to protect him. Plus Sigarda's Aid because you just gotta have it. It was inspired by a deck I found that combo'd it with this card:  So even with zero other buffs he can swing for 18 commander damage in one turn. It's lethal if you play the adventure and then equip it the same turn. However I don't have this card because I decided it was too strong to be fun with my friends
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If you wanna be a HUGE rear end in a top hat you can make this guy your commander and swing for approximately one hundred billion commander damage with him and Raiyuu on the board
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Sublime archangel and Karazikar are also good adds for that deck.
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A Moose posted:I think I like the idea of an equipment commander deck, but who are good commanders for it, and what does winning with one usually look like? Like throwing 1000 equipments on 1 guy and attacking 1 person at a time with combat damage seems slow and easy to disrupt. Is mono-white viable or do we need red for damage doubling/tripling as well as various Nahris? Mono-white equipment is entirely viable. Sram can probably do it, so can the Kembas, but my personal version is Ardenn/Akroma partners. Going voltron is the easiest path but you can also get a go-wide version or even just generic goodstuff.
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Play Rafiq of the Many. Something like this: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Jr4qWPVUxkGeqXkG8WSVnQ but maybe with fewer ETB Tapped lands and more interaction.
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TotalHell posted:So I’m curious, how many decks do people have that starts as a concept WITHOUT a commander, vs the number of decks that started with the Commander and built from there? I've done both, either I just look through commanders that I have and build around them like my Scion of the Ur-Dragon or Brion Stoutarm decks, or I have a concept that I want to make, and then try to find a commander for them. Like I have a bunch of enchantment synergy stuff, so I looked into making an enchantment deck. Or I want to make a huge but non-infinite number of 2/2 zombie tokens, but I don't have Gisa yet. So I threw all my zombie tokens stuff and just grabbed Erebos because I needed a mono black commander.
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TotalHell posted:So I’m curious, how many decks do people have that starts as a concept WITHOUT a commander, vs the number of decks that started with the Commander and built from there? There was only one time I tried to make a deck before I had a commander in mind, and that was when I wanted to make golem tribal featuring all the splicers. When I finally went looking for one, I couldn't find anything that was in at least Bant colors that interested in me, even taking into account Ich-Tekik. Of course, maybe it was all for the best because now WOE gave us Brenard who is literally perfect for what I wanted.
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Dizz posted:i still kinda want to make a mutate deck, shame wotc never explored it more. A Goon posted this a while back. I modified it some but it needs work. You can probably find the original by putting the deck name in the search bar: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/FDq4gsxAuU2-0WxGtHmkYQ E: ShallNoiseUpon posted:Ivy mutate is incredibly cool I would hate to keep track of the mutate aura copies, even with tokens you can draw on.
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Batterypowered7 posted:I would hate to keep track of the mutate aura copies, even with tokens you can draw on. This is true. There are two pilots at my LGS and both of them do a really good job with the dry-erase tokens and have definitely done it A Lot so it’s not awful but almost certainly a learning curve there.
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Yeah the easiest is to just make a list on a dry erase token, that's what I do for my Ivy. I didn't do mutate in my deck but I may have to throw in a little bit. Just, as a treat
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TotalHell posted:So I’m curious, how many decks do people have that starts as a concept WITHOUT a commander, vs the number of decks that started with the Commander and built from there? I pick a theme before a commander at least half the time. Most of my decks treat the commander as an 8th card in hand - a really nice 8th card, but nothing that's required to function.
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Dizz posted:i still kinda want to make a mutate deck, shame wotc never explored it more. It's criminal that two of the ikoria-based cards we got in aftermath were yet another hardened scales variant and Humans auto-include #472, but no mutators
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My group banned First Sliver
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So play a second one. who is checking decks in commander?
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Raenir Salazar posted:My group banned First Sliver As a commander or in the deck?
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Floppychop posted:As a commander or in the deck? As the Commander. We learned how Cascade works and when I have only 2 1 drop slivers they didn't like the time it takes to go through my whole library.
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