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Edward Mass posted:I’d give the AMPTP about a month before they need actors, given the turnaround time of filming for Spring television. There are multiple films my workplace is waiting to get our hands on that have been delayed due to needing ADR. So I hope that the AMPTP comes to the table soon.
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Email to membership says SAG-AFTRA and the AMPTP will meet for bargaining on Monday, Oct. 2. This will be interesting.
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On minimum writer’s room size, the WGA did get their way: “For shows with six or fewer episodes, studios must hire at least three writers and three writer/producers. For shows with between seven and 12 episodes, the minimum is now five writers and three writer/producers and for shows with more than 13 episodes, there must be at least six writers and three writer/producers.” But there also seems to be a pretty big carve out. If _all_ episodes are written by the same writer or writers, then that group can be as small as they want. It’s hard to say how much this diminishes the new requirements. The most obvious beneficiaries are the lone wolf writers like Taylor Sheridan. https://deadline.com/2023/09/mike-white-taylor-sheridan-rule-showrunners-wga-deal-1235557877/
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Vegetable posted:It’s hard to say how much this diminishes the new requirements. The most obvious beneficiaries are the lone wolf writers like Taylor Sheridan. Or ones that are credited as such; I think there's been some insinuations online that Sheridan doesn't actually write all his scripts himself.
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Link to the full John August podcast detailing what is in the new WGA MBA. August was on the negotiating committee and has always been an excellent explainer of WGA related things. https://johnaugust.com/2023/sidecast-whats-in-the-deal It may be a bit inside baseball if you're not in the industry but I'm sure most interested people will be able to follow along fine. And here's a link to the summary document they are reading through: https://www.wgacontract2023.org/WGAContract/files/WGA-Negotiations-Tentative-Agreement.pdf tanglewood1420 fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Sep 28, 2023 |
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Does the Directors' Guild feel silly now?
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Dawgstar posted:Does the Directors' Guild feel silly now? God I loving hope so
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Dawgstar posted:Does the Directors' Guild feel silly now? Probably not. Directors just don’t give much of a poo poo about this stuff as much as writers and actors do. blinkeve1826 posted:Email to membership says SAG-AFTRA and the AMPTP will meet for bargaining on Monday, Oct. 2. This will be interesting. Oh nevermind. I guess I was wrong about being wrong. fart blood fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Sep 28, 2023 |
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fart blood posted:Probably not. Directors just don’t give much of a poo poo about this stuff as much as writers and actors do. Yeah I'm not saying all directors like the part where they order peasants to make art for them more than the money and would do it for free if they could, but a clear majority do otherwise we'd have a triple strike
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DarklyDreaming posted:Yeah I'm not saying all directors like the part where they order peasants to make art for them more than the money and would do it for free if they could, but a clear majority do otherwise we'd have a triple strike Directors are perfectly fine being gods and right now they see AI as benefiting them over everyone else, so they just didn’t give a poo poo mostly. Will they be right? Time will tell.
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Directors are really one or two steps removed from bog-standard managers, of course they're more aligned to the executives than most creatives.
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You can teach AI to write. You even can teach AI to act! What you can't do is teach AI to direct, and that's why their guild didn't strike.
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I’ll be the (slight) disagreer, I think the fact that I saw a fair amount of DGA members on Twitter complain about the lovely deal they got has me thinking (hoping?) it’s just a lot of lovely leadership at top.
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Edward Mass posted:You can teach AI to write. You even can teach AI to act! What you can't do is teach AI to direct, and that's why their guild didn't strike. This seems... either wrong or will be proven wrong before the end of the decade maybe.
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cartoons123 posted:I’ll be the (slight) disagreer, I think the fact that I saw a fair amount of DGA members on Twitter complain about the lovely deal they got has me thinking (hoping?) it’s just a lot of lovely leadership at top. Yeah there has been some grumbling that DGA leadership were pretty unilateral in taking a deal.
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nine-gear crow posted:This seems... either wrong or will be proven wrong before the end of the decade maybe. As someone who barely passed Directing for Stage in college, I can firmly say that AI is at my level right now with regards to the skill. Now, seven years from now? Anything's possible.
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Edward Mass posted:As someone who barely passed Directing for Stage in college, I can firmly say that AI is at my level right now with regards to the skill. Now, seven years from now? Anything's possible.
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Vegetable posted:What AI tool are you comparing against? UNIT9
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Wasn't it the DGA that had the email leaked about not voting activist directors onto the board?
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https://x.com/TVMoJoe/status/1707554699522789557?s=20 Good Little Rundown of the last five months, with some summaries and explanations of the new deal
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Was this just like filming strangers in public kinda b-roll? Interesting to know it's covered by the unions, I think I kind of assumed most people in b-roll didn't necessarily even know they were being filmed for it but fair game in public for the most part, aside from legal permits. Glad the unions were able to stop Netflix trying to sneak in some work.
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Khanstant posted:Was this just like filming strangers in public kinda b-roll? Interesting to know it's covered by the unions, I think I kind of assumed most people in b-roll didn't necessarily even know they were being filmed for it but fair game in public for the most part, aside from legal permits. Glad the unions were able to stop Netflix trying to sneak in some work. Usually there's a big sign that says "FILM PRODUCTION IN PROGRESS. IF YOU GO PAST THIS SIGN YOU CONSENT TO BE FILMED" When studios need public area b-roll. I get the feeling this is what happens when they don't put up the sign
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Well, I'm glad the writers reached a deal before this happened https://twitter.com/lara_korte/status/1708305071673676139 Man, gently caress Newsom
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This is why I have to tell Dem people I know that Newsom is not to be trusted. He pretends like he's super progressive, but he's more than happy to tell labor or workers to eat poo poo He also recently vetoed a bill in CA that would expand protections for trans children.
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claw game handjob posted:Yeah, if you're not in this state it's easy to miss that he's been very lukewarm for years, but the last 12 months have been incredibly calculated in a way that seems to be moving center-ward for a 2024 run. Oh my god Republicans are still going to call him a commie and not vote for him 
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FlamingLiberal posted:He's been running for President forever, biding his time Yeeeeep. He's gonna be the Democratic nominee in 2028 one way or another because nobody wants It was supposed to be Newsom vs. DeSantis in 2028 but Ronny D couldn't wait and wound up shooting both his feet right out of his big white rubber pooty boots and is now loving dead at Trump's feet.
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Happy Landfill posted:Oh my god Republicans are still going to call him a commie and not vote for him These moves aren’t to appease republicans they’re to appease the centrist libs
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1st AD posted:These moves aren’t to appease republicans they’re to appease the centrist libs
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Oxxidation posted:that doesn’t bode well for SAG Does it though? The studios already gave the writers almost everything they wanted so the studios don’t have a lot of leverage right now. This still sucks because so many actors need help but I don’t see this hurting tomorrow’s talks that much.
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What can I say? Dems are not your allies and the government isn't on your side.
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My understanding is the bill Newsom vetoed wouldn’t even apply to the current strikes so it doesn’t give SAG leverage anyway. Feldegast42 posted:What can I say? Dems are not your allies and the government isn't on your side. This is democrats we are talking about so it wouldn’t shock me if they passed this bill knowing Newsom was going to veto it.
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His supposed concerns stated in the reasoning are easy enough to address, just update the UI funding methods and presto
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Szurumbur posted:His supposed concerns stated in the reasoning are easy enough to address, just update the UI funding methods and presto But that would involve government doing something.
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