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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

PoE-style dedicated tabs would be absolutely killer, especially for seasonal stuff. Organizing the malignant gems was a pain.

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MrMidnight
Aug 3, 2006

I had a nightmare dungeon where all the boars were invisible. Also ran into a couple of invisible walls where my bone spear would bounce off of. Game needs work.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Live stream info:

First Stream: October 4th.

Topics:

- New quality-of-life updates.
- Season 2 mechanics and updates.
- Improvements to dungeons.
- Improvements to mounts.
- Changes and improvements to stash and inventory functionality.
- Q&A

Second Stream: October 10th.

Topics:

- Deep dive into upcoming class balance changes and updates.
- Deep dive into several reworked game mechanics and systems.
- Itemization changes for season 2 and plans for future itemization revamps.
- Discussing community-requested features.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:


- Discussing community-requested features.

They're adding the P Organ!!

Doomykins
Jun 28, 2008

Didn't you mean to ask about flowers?

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Live stream info:

First Stream: October 4th

Good poo poo. Though I can't help but amend my smartass joke from earlier.

Diablo 4 isn't early access, we're just waiting a minimum of 7 months for it to be entirely reworked. :haw:

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

External Organs posted:

They're adding the P Organ!!

It's The Cow Level and the ability to type "/pizza" to automatically have a medium pepperoni from Pizza Hutt sent to your home.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
i'm hype for 4 hours of rod holy poo poo

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Live stream info:

First Stream: October 4th.

Topics:

- New quality-of-life updates.
- Season 2 mechanics and updates.
- Improvements to dungeons.
- Improvements to mounts.
- Changes and improvements to stash and inventory functionality.
- Q&A

Second Stream: October 10th.

Topics:

- Deep dive into upcoming class balance changes and updates.
- Deep dive into several reworked game mechanics and systems.
- Itemization changes for season 2 and plans for future itemization revamps.
- Discussing community-requested features.

game is saved

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Doomykins posted:

Good poo poo. Though I can't help but amend my smartass joke from earlier.

Diablo 4 isn't early access, we're just waiting a minimum of 7 months for it to be entirely reworked. :haw:

Yeah it's a Diablo game.

MrMidnight
Aug 3, 2006

Ehud posted:

game is saved

That's actually an impressive amount of changes but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*
I'm not going to breathe the hopium because I know all of the good things will be announced for future seasons and they're just telling us about them now to excite the 2000 players left in the game

doomfunk
Feb 29, 2008

oh come on was that really necessary
all over my fine carpet!!
I think season 2 is going to be cool. I will not elaborate.

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?
i am going to play diablo 4 and have fun doing it

El Scandelouse
Jan 10, 2003

Love, Drunkchat.
Seems like they are aware of the issues which is nice. Hope to see some neat stuff come out for s2. If not, we’ve got a ton of good games to play in the meanwhile.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
yeah i doubt im ever gonna really go hard on a season enough to get to 100 but its good enough and ill probably take some time out of whatever great game im playing this glorious year to get to 50 at least im optimistic for this next season

Swilo
Jun 2, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD
:dukedog:

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Live stream info:

First Stream: October 4th.

Topics:

- Instantly access NMDs from town
- season of zombiesvampires
- 5% more of every number in dungeons
- mounts 10% less likely to get stuck on geometry outside of town when not sprinting and no close enemies
- gems finally treated like mats
- name mispronunciation jokes and cherry picked softballs

Second Stream: October 10th.

Topics:

- we're gonna tweak some numbers without playtesting any of it
- permanent helltides
- set items
- you can't have any of the cool stuff you're asking for because it would ruin the game

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Swilo posted:

First Stream: October 4th.

Topics:

- Instantly access NMDs from town
- season of zombiesvampires
- 5% more of every number in dungeons
- mounts 10% less likely to get stuck on geometry outside of town when not sprinting and no close enemies
- gems finally treated like mats
- name mispronunciation jokes and cherry picked softballs

Second Stream: October 10th.

Topics:

- we're gonna tweak some numbers without playtesting any of it
- permanent helltides
- set items
- you can't have any of the cool stuff you're asking for because it would ruin the game

lol this is gonna be like 80% accurate if not more

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Swilo posted:

First Stream: October 4th.

Topics:

- Instantly access NMDs from town
- season of zombiesvampires
- 5% more of every number in dungeons
- mounts 10% less likely to get stuck on geometry outside of town when not sprinting and no close enemies
- gems finally treated like mats
- name mispronunciation jokes and cherry picked softballs

Second Stream: October 10th.

Topics:

- we're gonna tweak some numbers without playtesting any of it
- permanent helltides
- set items
- you can't have any of the cool stuff you're asking for because it would ruin the game

murders like this belong on liveleak

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

harrygomm posted:

i am going to play diablo 4 and have fun doing it

mods???

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Swilo posted:

First Stream: October 4th.

Topics:

- Instantly access NMDs from town
- season of zombiesvampires
- 5% more of every number in dungeons
- mounts 10% less likely to get stuck on geometry outside of town when not sprinting and no close enemies
- gems finally treated like mats
- name mispronunciation jokes and cherry picked softballs

Second Stream: October 10th.

Topics:

- we're gonna tweak some numbers without playtesting any of it
- permanent helltides
- set items
- you can't have any of the cool stuff you're asking for because it would ruin the game

5% more doodads to put on doohickeys to proceed in dungeons.

Sierra Nevadan
Nov 1, 2010

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1707191641914671117?s=20

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?
well poo poo, wrap it up dialures? diablures?

Mr. Pickles
Mar 19, 2014



Phanatic posted:

Loot in this game sucks infinitely more than in D2.

I dont think its as simple as just "loot sucks".

D2 loot sucked in the pre-LoD era too, because you had a fuckton of utterly useless Uniques (a trend carried on from D1) and also, about 99% of Set Items were also TRASH. So you just had a total of like 5-6 named uniques and set items that were good and then you had the rng rare items which everyone used on almost every build. Not much different from D4 in the current state to be fair.

BUT the item properties of D2 did not suck, because the core game systems behind them were good. Here are a few for reference

Hit Recovery - Good
Life/Mana steal - Good
+all skills / +specific skills - Good
Resistances - Good
Elemental/Physical damage - Good
Armor / Damage Reduction - Good
Crushing Blow/Open wounds/Knockback/Ignore Defense - Good
Magic Find - Apparently people debate over this, but I think it is good
Attack Rating - Not so good but OK, stacking high AR did feel good
Cast rate / Attack speed - Good
Block chance & Speed - Good

Then LoD came and brought much more to the game in terms of properties and unique mechanics on items, but this is not currently comparable to D4

Now, D4 loot does suck very hard too, but it is not as easy to fix because the core mechanics behind the item properties are total JUNK. Here's some:

Critical chance / Critdamage (general or conditional) - JUNK
Lucky hit - JUNK
Overwhatever hit - JUNK
Resistances - Doesn't work, JUNK
Dodge chance - JUNK
Conditional Damage Reduction - JUNK
Conditional damage (close/wounded/distant enemies etc) - JUNK
Vulnerable - JUNK
+all skills - JUNK (seriously how did they even manage this..?)
Barrier / Fortify - JUNK

There's a few which are OK though

Resource generation - Good
Class specific Cost Reduction - Good
Cooldown Reduction - Good
Attack speed - Good
Specific +skills - Good

My point is, they would have to make another game altogether in order to do away with all these crap systems which make itemization in the game bad. This can't be done. Conversely though, Diablo 3 also has CRAP items too but people continue to play it and say it is a good game

Mr. Pickles fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Sep 28, 2023

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?
please SYQ it is getting to be too much at this point

Rock Puncher
Jul 26, 2014
Increased light radius.. now there's a stat from when little boys were men and little girls were FBI agents

Mr. Pickles
Mar 19, 2014



Rock Puncher posted:

Increased light radius.. now there's a stat from when little boys were men and little girls were FBI agents

D4 could benefit a lot from a Light Radius mechanic to determine mob aggro radius though. In d2, low light meant you could not see far but the mobs could not see you either

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX
Yeah the whole 60 sided conditional damage model is hot garbage designed by The Riddler. I'd be worried even adding a useful damage calculator into the game just because it would lay bare the pants on head clown math.

Getting rid of that will fix 70% of the gear problem.

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX
Also status quantity aside, the items are completely disconnected from the effects.

For example: Why is this hammer causing more damage to chilled enemies? Is it fiery? Is it because it's a blunt weapon? No. It's just a different stat range. You can replace it with anything.

They went with that, instead of working with variables like range, speed, weight, physical damage type (blunt,piercing, slashing), + X amount of elemental damage types.

So instead of something like "Great Fiery Soulhammer" which is a hammer great against living and armored targets,
you get "Damnation Flesh Lurker" which is a random list of conditions that's 12% better against anything you farted on 5 seconds after calling it a bitch.

And that's a change they brought over from D3 and made worse by further diluting it.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Legendary aspects being interchangeable among gear slots is a good idea in theory but in practice it kind of eliminates loot identity. When you're endgame item farming, seeing some monster cough up an UNID'd [Diadem] or primal [Sword] should feel like a truly epic event, not another chore where you have to mouse over the 3 other similar aspects in your stash to see if it's worth the cost of upgrading. Uniques were sort of intended to take this role but they're either so niche or so rare that there's not much to get excited about, and they don't even look particularly distinguisable from any other items in the game. In conclusion, Epic Loot is as much a character in Diablo as Tyrael or Cain and it was a mistake to make almost every slot indistinguishable from one another.

putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION

Mr. Pickles posted:

People fail to realize that D4 was a great success. It make a fuckton of money already so the suits upstairs are content. Now all the devteam has to do is just laugh in everyone's face and provide bare minimum updates and support to the suckers who bought it until the time comes for the 1st expansion-cashgrab.

Like, all this pointless drama on streamer platforms, youtube and reddit and forums about how the game "should have been" or how it can "be improved" is nothing more than free promotion to them

4h fireside chat is a loud and clear "gently caress YOU" to everyone and a direct pass to youtubers and streamers to continue promoting the game for free, making twitch and utube pocket money

Yeah the game made a staggering amount of money, and you or I would be happy with that, but the thing about capitalism is that it doesn't matter how much it DID make, it's about what it COULD have made, because that's what investors are betting on. They would have forward projected budgets based on an expectation of the game being much more "sticky" than it has been - season passes, cosmetics and obviously expansion packs eventually.

Like yeah, the game LAUNCH was a success financially I agree, but moving forward the execs are likely scrambling to somehow make those projections realistic again. Which feels good to me because they're the ones who hosed the game I think, not the devs who clearly worked hard in challenging circumstances.

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

can't think of a better reason not to watch diablo 4 in the myriad of reasons

putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION

Tonetta posted:

can't think of a better reason not to watch diablo 4 in the myriad of reasons

Blizz paying Nazi sympathisers now to promote their poo poo lol

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Elon Musk liking D4 is really the kiss of death, isn't it.

Mr. Pickles
Mar 19, 2014



putin is a oval office posted:

Blizz paying Nazi sympathisers now to promote their poo poo lol

Ye is playing Diablo 4?

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Mr. Pickles posted:

Ye is playing Diablo 4?

I don't really want to post nazi poo poo in the video game forums but rest assured that elon musk, at the very least, sympathizes with the nazi cause

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Also the whole "yes, but he was only posting graphic child pornography to make a point about how bad it is, so we're reinstating his account because I follow him" thing.

Mr. Pickles
Mar 19, 2014



Tonetta posted:

I don't really want to post nazi poo poo in the video game forums but rest assured that elon musk, at the very least, sympathizes with the nazi cause

Oh I was just attempting to make joke, I wouldn't want the thread to steer that way. Although something must be done for the thread to finally reach 1/5 P00P status, and some nice nazi talk might get us there :p

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Also the whole "yes, but he was only posting graphic child pornography to make a point about how bad it is, so we're reinstating his account because I follow him" thing.

Isnt twitter kinda a "low filter" environment catering to porn and a bunch of other sinister crap? If Tate should be allowed to post anywhere, I suppose twitter is the place...

faantastic
Dec 31, 2006

that dude.

Considering the massive numbers D4 gets on twitch it is pretty impressive that Elon was able to live stream this on twitter with no hiccups last night. I'm guessing the D4 hardcore have already jumped to X to start streaming, as currently D4 has 400 viewers on twitch.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

he cancelled it

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George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





He was too busy trying to get a sad comeback on AOC to play

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